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Subject: In your opinion, what is the most abused armor ability?

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Posted by: kingofsmash1
Ummmm, yeah uh, how 'bout this here?
If Bungie added quicktime events (aka Push X to not die) when ever someone armor locked to serve as your common sense, would you complain less?

  • 11.23.2011 10:44 AM PDT

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Posted by: Dwavenhobble
the higher K/D doesn't give you an auto win

It kind of does in Slayer.

doesn't matter that my K/D isn't posative doesn't mean I can't win in matches.
True. Your W/L ratio says that you can't win in matches.

Stange so the fact unlike a lot of "pros" like you I don't go into Rumble pit in a party and boost, yeh I said it people boost in parties, in objective mode one will hold the objective and his mates defend him, or in slayer its not uncommon now to see guests running to the same spot over and over to be killed off to help their friend win.
Blah, blah, blah. Here's an actual pro who plays Rumble Pit. Feel free to search his game history for boosting.

Regardless, as you so rightly point out, it's just a video game. So stop making an idiot of yourself trying to pretend you're not below average.

I'm amazed at how people being shown up annoyed them pull the "oh your ignorant card" then when pressed refuse to explain stating "oh you're too stupid to understand"
I cut the rest of this paragraph because it was basically just nonsense.

Here's the point: jetpack breaks map control. Countering jetpackers who fly straight up in the air towards you out in the middle of Hemorrhage (like most of the players the game would match you with in lolBTB) means nothing. You understand? Your ability to defeat the average jetpack user in BTB and Rumble Pit means nothing. That's like saying that because you can beat that guest who's never played Halo before in Team Snipers (although you probably couldn't, sadly), you could defeat Ninja or Snipedown.

Good jetpack users don't just fly straight towards you, or sit in an easily grenaded perch for the whole match. They abuse soft kill zones to teamshoot. They use hit and run tactics to push players about of map zones that are supposed to grant a tactical advantage. They add a third axis of attack during a coordinated push. Effective and judicial use of the jetpack combined with effective teamwork is nothing like the jetpack users you've faced.

This isn't about your IQ, although you're not providing a particularly favourable estimate of it. You haven't played good jetpack users. Good jetpack users are nothing like bad jetpack users. You. Don't. Know.

[Edited on 11.23.2011 11:01 AM PST]

  • 11.23.2011 11:00 AM PDT

Boltshot = mini shotgun

Armor lock, followed by jetpack and active camo.

  • 11.23.2011 11:01 AM PDT


Ooh, I love those people, the ones who decide to throw everything and the kitchen sink at you, as if an M16 does anything to a T-90. Oh, MLG player with noobtube instead? Congrats! You blew off one of my ablative plates!

Gun, meet Bad Guy.
Bad Guy, this is Gun.

Sprint easily, and like every AA is just another cheap way to avoid death and get more kills.

  • 11.23.2011 11:02 AM PDT

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Posted by: BeeKay Stacker


Iknorite?

I wish stupidity was a bannable offense on the forums. This kid is becoming quite tiresome.

I dunno I'm pretty sure implying someone should be banned is against the rules here

Oh look, he's wrong yet again. Shocker.


as is deliberate off topic replies


Funny, that's precisely what you have been doing, what with you dancing around people's arguments, avoiding addressing their points, pulling random fallible "points" out of your ass, and all.

not you know address any points raised.
The irony and hypocrisy. Ow my sides.

  • 11.23.2011 11:08 AM PDT


Posted by: BeeKay Stacker

Oh look, he's wrong yet again. Shocker.

Actually not as calling for people to be banned in the forum can quite easily be construed as a threat

Posted by: BeeKay Stacker

as is deliberate off topic replies


Funny, that's precisely what you have been doing, what with you dancing around people's arguments, avoiding addressing their points, pulling random fallible "points" out of your ass, and all.

so arguing against their point is saying how they are unskilled therefore their point is invalid, sure because halo skill invalidates any point ever lol and is totally not being used by morons here lacking the ability to argue against points made.
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Posted by: BeeKay Stacker
not you know address any points raised.
The irony and hypocrisy. Ow my sides.

well considering most replies have been "oh you wouldn't understand"
"oh you're not intelligent enough for me to be able to explain"
or your personal favourite style "you're unskilled your point is therefore invalid go kill yourself"



Posted by: Sentox6

Blah, blah, blah. Here's an actual pro who plays Rumble Pit. Feel free to search his game history for boosting.

Regardless, as you so rightly point out, it's just a video game. So stop making an idiot of yourself trying to pretend you're not below average.

How about you stop being an idiot and resorting to the old idiots fall back, you have no skill therefore nothing you say counts.
By that approach no coach in the world should ever be listened to because they aren't Olympic level athletes or the very top of the sport.


Posted by: Sentox6
I'm amazed at how people being shown up annoyed them pull the "oh your ignorant card" then when pressed refuse to explain stating "oh you're too stupid to understand"
I cut the rest of this paragraph because it was basically just nonsense.

Here's the point: jetpack breaks map control. Countering jetpackers who fly straight up in the air towards you out in the middle of Hemorrhage (like most of the players the game would match you with in lolBTB) means nothing. You understand? Your ability to defeat the average jetpack user in BTB and Rumble Pit means nothing. That's like saying that because you can beat that guest who's never played Halo before in Team Snipers (although you probably couldn't, sadly), you could defeat Ninja or Snipedown.

Good jetpack users don't just fly straight towards you, or sit in an easily grenaded perch for the whole match. They abuse soft kill zones to teamshoot. They use hit and run tactics to push players about of map zones that are supposed to grant a tactical advantage. They add a third axis of attack during a coordinated push. Effective and judicial use of the jetpack combined with effective teamwork is nothing like the jetpack users you've faced.

This isn't about your IQ, although you're not providing a particularly favourable estimate of it. You haven't played good jetpack users. Good jetpack users are nothing like bad jetpack users. You. Don't. Know.


As all the "pros" here keep saying
"Learn to adapt"
"its all about tactics a good truly good player would be able to counter any tactic"

  • 11.23.2011 12:24 PM PDT

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Posted by: Dwavenhobble
As all the "pros" here keep saying
"Learn to adapt"
"its all about tactics a good truly good player would be able to counter any tactic"

Bwahaha. Funny that when I do explain things to you, you have no actual points to make in return.

It's not that jetpack abuse can't be defeated. It can, but it almost certainly results in gameplay becoming slower and more stale. Just because a tactic can be countered does not mean that said tactic is a positive contribution to gameplay. You seem to be far too narrow-minded to grasp that, however.

(Incidentally, your coach analogy is terrible. Coaches, at the very least, have an in-depth knowledge of the game and devote a considerable amount of time to analysing it. You have demonstrated neither.)

[Edited on 11.23.2011 12:48 PM PST]

  • 11.23.2011 12:45 PM PDT

I don't need a specialized burger; I stack BKs on my own.


Posted by: Dwavenhobble

Posted by: BeeKay Stacker

Oh look, he's wrong yet again. Shocker.

Actually not as calling for people to be banned in the forum can quite easily be construed as a threat

Are you high? Also, the term would be "misconstrued" in this case, numb nuts.


Posted by: BeeKay Stacker

as is deliberate off topic replies


Funny, that's precisely what you have been doing, what with you dancing around people's arguments, avoiding addressing their points, pulling random fallible "points" out of your ass, and all.

so arguing against their point is saying how they are unskilled therefore their point is invalid, sure because halo skill invalidates any point ever lol and is totally not being used by morons here lacking the ability to argue against points made.
[/sarcasm]


You're not making any points. You're just looping the same weak argument over and over again. I swear, I've argued with Scientologists more logical than you. You think you know what you're talking about when you very clearly don't. You think shotguns are in MLG, you have never played a jetpack user outside of BTB (especially not a good one) and so you think you know how to counter those who are good, and you think MLG makes all games the same when their gameplay is very clearly different to anybody in possession of a brain cell.


Posted by: BeeKay Stacker
not you know address any points raised.
The irony and hypocrisy. Ow my sides.

well considering most replies have been "oh you wouldn't understand"


Because you wouldn't. Are you really that thick that you can't even consider the fact that you haven't played against adequate enough competition to understand the ins and outs of high-level gameplay? You have no base for your opinion. All you've played against are BTB kids who jetpack straight up in the air aimlessly. You haven't played against people who know how to abuse the jetpack, so how/why could you pretend that you know how it works?


"oh you're not intelligent enough for me to be able to explain"

Something that you're proving with every post by just shrugging off what everyone is telling you. "Hurr everybody is wrong but me". You're one of those jackasses who doesn't listen to anybody who's views/evidence is contrary to yours because you fancy yourself as intelligent, yet you are clearly not. If you were, you would have conceded that maybe you don't know everything about this game and stopped arguing with people who clearly have a better understanding of the game than you.


or your personal favourite style "you're unskilled your point is therefore invalid go kill yourself"

Again, if you are bad, you clearly can't counter the abuses we're describing. You haven't even played against the good players, so you cannot possibly have an understandng of what we're talking about. It's simple logic. How can you speak on something if you haven't witnessed and/or experienced it?

It's not so much skill I'm concerned about when it comes to your ridiculously misguided views; it's your experience. It just so happens to be that you're also bad (as your stats indicate), which is a testament to your inability to counter these tactics in the event that you do encounter them. There is no reason not to have a positive K/D. Even in Halo 2 when I blindly rushed the objective (flag, bomb, ect.) I still maintained a positive K/D. Seriously, it's not that hard. If you can't do it, especially in default Reach, you're beyond bad.



[Edited on 11.23.2011 12:53 PM PST]

  • 11.23.2011 12:46 PM PDT
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This Soffish do not eat.

Al and jetpack are top in the list of votes. No surprises there.

  • 11.23.2011 12:48 PM PDT
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Cream Gravy.


Posted by: RtG ryan 69
Jetpack in arena.

  • 11.23.2011 12:58 PM PDT


Posted by: Sentox6
Posted by: Dwavenhobble
As all the "pros" here keep saying
"Learn to adapt"
"its all about tactics a good truly good player would be able to counter any tactic"

Bwahaha. Funny that when I do explain things to you, you have no actual points to make in return.

Well I'm only a lowly terrible player how about rather than moaning about how everything is over powered or unfair "Pros"
like you work out something as you're so great at the game lol.

Unless you're very terrible at shooting people using jetpacks normally stick out like sore thumbs when in the air, so while they get the line of sight advantage if they are that high its like a giant look I'm here beacon.

Posted by: Sentox6
It's not that jetpack abuse can't be defeated. It can, but it almost certainly results in gameplay becoming slower and more stale. Just because a tactic can be countered does not mean that said tactic is a positive contribution to gameplay. You seem to be far too narrow-minded to grasp that, however.

Nope just using the argument so many "pros" use in this situation as to why active camo shotgun and snipers in bases and parking stuff on flags is fair and not taking advantage of programming.

Posted by: Sentox6
(Incidentally, your coach analogy is terrible. Coaches, at the very least, have an in-depth knowledge of the game and devote a considerable amount of time to analysing it. You have demonstrated neither.)

heavily debatable point there, considering I started playing Halo from CE but then again the point was to be able to comment on something and for it to be valid you don't have to be top of the game in it for the comment to be valid.


Posted by: BeeKay Stacker


Are you high? Also, the term would be "misconstrued" in this case, numb nuts.

no I'm going with what I said as mis implies it was as mistake as oppose to trying to say "I want this guy banned from the forums because I don't like him whhhaaaa wwwhhhhhaaa"

Posted by: BeeKay Stacker

You're not making any points. You're just looping the same weak argument over and over again. I swear, I've argued with Scientologists more logical than you.

kindly take your buuthurt about failure at using google elsewhere its getting boring now the comedy aspect is wearing thin

Posted by: BeeKay Stacker
You think you know what you're talking about when you very clearly don't. You think shotguns are in MLG,

keep the delusion going the more time you say it the more likely idiots who lack the ability to use google will believe you.
While those who can google will see Halo 3 MLG has the shotgun as do many MLG reach game variations on Reach and of course the fact theres a nice thread on the MLG forums easily found using google about how the shotgun was removed from default MLG only after version 1.0 of the playlist, so it has been there and still is in competition play according to MLG members on the MLG forum.

Posted by: BeeKay Stacker
you have never played a jetpack user outside of BTB (especially not a good one) and so you think you know how to counter those who are good, and you think MLG makes all games the same when their gameplay is very clearly different to anybody in possession of a brain cell.

So with only 4 games with MLG dev supported playlists you've played one of the others that's not a Halo game ?
Bearing in mind 2 of the MLG dev supported ones are halo ones and 1 of them had MLG support withdrawn due to the MLG demands getting worse, so I can only take that as you can name the other game with MLG dev supported playlists as you must have played it unless you're talking out your rear and have forgotten to take the stick out first.

Posted by: BeeKay Stacker

Posted by: BeeKay Stacker
not you know address any points raised.
The irony and hypocrisy. Ow my sides.

well considering most replies have been "oh you wouldn't understand"


Because you wouldn't. Are you really that thick that you can't even consider the fact that you haven't played against adequate enough competition to understand the ins and outs of high-level gameplay? You have no base for your opinion. All you've played against are BTB kids who jetpack straight up in the air aimlessly. You haven't played against people who know how to abuse the jetpack, so how/why could you pretend that you know how it works?

I dunno maybe because I have a background in gaming with some of the most jetpack heavy games in it so Halo Reach isn't my only experience of people with jetpacks and Halo Reach jetpack mechanics are almost that same as other games, infact compared to some its actually reduced both in time and speed.
So yeh Halo reach jetpack is so tough considering theres game where using the jetpack you can go 10 times the speed in halo Reach and quite literally jetpack into people face and shotgun them.



Posted by: BeeKay Stacker

"oh you're not intelligent enough for me to be able to explain"

Something that you're proving with every post by just shrugging off what everyone is telling you. "Hurr everybody is wrong but me". You're one of those jackasses who doesn't listen to anybody who's views/evidence is contrary to yours because you fancy yourself as intelligent, yet you are clearly not.

When someone can make a point beyond "Oh you're not skilled enough to know" or "oh your not intelligent to understand" maybe then I'd consider the evidence but as yet thats pretty much your whole argument right there

Posted by: BeeKay Stacker
If you were, you would have conceded that maybe you don't know everything about this game and stopped arguing with people who clearly have a better understanding of the game than you.


or your personal favourite style "you're unskilled your point is therefore invalid go kill yourself"

Again, if you are bad, you clearly can't counter the abuses we're describing. You haven't even played against the good players, so you cannot possibly have an understandng of what we're talking about. It's simple logic. How can you speak on something if you haven't witnessed and/or experienced it?

Maybe because I've played a game where there was a more extreme and easy to abuse jetpack, yet even on there it could be countered a game with close to the mechanics of Halo Reach ones.

Posted by: BeeKay Stacker
It's not so much skill I'm concerned about when it comes to your ridiculously misguided views; it's your experience. It just so happens to be that you're also bad (as your stats indicate), which is a testament to your inability to counter these tactics in the event that you do encounter them. There is no reason not to have a positive K/D. Even in Halo 2 when I blindly rushed the objective (flag, bomb, ect.) I still maintained a positive K/D. Seriously, it's not that hard. If you can't do it, especially in default Reach, you're beyond bad.


I love the fact people claim that a simple number as K/D ratio is the one true measure of skill.

you still sit claiming you're superior due to K/D ratio and claim that's no reason to vs someone as the match has already been decided, funny that because then any race can be settled purely on who's car has the highest horse power right ?

  • 11.23.2011 1:22 PM PDT

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Posted by: Dwavenhobble



sorry but your not good. The other guys are right...

  • 11.23.2011 1:50 PM PDT

Forget it man, and get with the countdown. Shake this square world and blast off for Kicksville.

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Posted by: Dwavenhobble
Unless you're very terrible at shooting people using jetpacks normally stick out like sore thumbs when in the air, so while they get the line of sight advantage if they are that high its like a giant look I'm here beacon.

Utter, absolute, insurmountable ignorance.

You have no idea what it's like to face good jetpack users, or what the effective use of jetpack looks like. This is an absolute fact, not an opinion, and is the only relevant point in this context.

Bearing in mind 2 of the MLG dev supported ones are halo ones and 1 of them had MLG support withdrawn due to the MLG demands getting worse, so I can only take that as you can name the other game with MLG dev supported playlists as you must have played it unless you're talking out your rear and have forgotten to take the stick out first.
What the -blam!-.

  • 11.23.2011 1:51 PM PDT

I don't need a specialized burger; I stack BKs on my own.


Posted by: Dwavenhobble



no I'm going with what I said as mis implies it was as mistake as oppose to trying to say "I want this guy banned from the forums because I don't like him whhhaaaa wwwhhhhhaaa"

Yeah, hence why it would be "misconstrued". You fail at the English language so hard. And you want to hold yourself as more intelligent than others? Ha! What a joke.

You're posting the same ignorant crap across the forums. That qualifies as spam. That warrants a ban. It has nothing to do with the fact that you are actively representing the decay of the modern educational system.



kindly take your buuthurt about failure at using google elsewhere its getting boring now the comedy aspect is wearing thin


Funny you should mention butthurt, as you seem awful asspained at the prospect of being called bad.


keep the delusion going the more time you say it the more likely idiots who lack the ability to use google will believe you.


Funny, the only delusional one around here appears to be you. It's sad that you're a delusional in addition to being a reclusive aspie.


While those who can google will see Halo 3 MLG has the shotgun as do many MLG reach game variations on Reach and of course the fact theres a nice thread on the MLG forums easily found using google about how the shotgun was removed from default MLG only after version 1.0 of the playlist, so it has been there and still is in competition play according to MLG members on the MLG forum.


Because the past = now, right? Shotguns are not currently in MLG, making you wrong you -blam!- illiterate, inbred, retard. Christ, how's that extra chromosome pair treating you? Apparently not well.

If it is not in MLG currently, they are not there. You are wrong and again have no idea what you're talking about.



So with only 4 games with MLG dev supported playlists you've played one of the others that's not a Halo game ?
Bearing in mind 2 of the MLG dev supported ones are halo ones and 1 of them had MLG support withdrawn due to the MLG demands getting worse, so I can only take that as you can name the other game with MLG dev supported playlists as you must have played it unless you're talking out your rear and have forgotten to take the stick out first.


This has nothing to do with anything. Whether the games are MLG developer (stop trying to sound like you know what you're talking about by saying "dev") supported or not, MLG does not change the game's base gameplay.



I dunno maybe because I have a background in gaming with some of the most jetpack heavy games in it so Halo Reach isn't my only experience of people with jetpacks and Halo Reach jetpack mechanics are almost that same as other games, infact compared to some its actually reduced both in time and speed.
So yeh Halo reach jetpack is so tough considering theres game where using the jetpack you can go 10 times the speed in halo Reach and quite literally jetpack into people face and shotgun them.


Because Halo Reach jetpacks= jetpacks in other games, right? That's the weakest argument I've ever heard.




When someone can make a point beyond "Oh you're not skilled enough to know" or "oh your not intelligent to understand" maybe then I'd consider the evidence but as yet thats pretty much your whole argument right there


And your whole argument is blindly stating that you understand when you repeatedly make it apparent that you don't with no viable evidence to the contrary, so...


Maybe because I've played a game where there was a more extreme and easy to abuse jetpack, yet even on there it could be countered a game with close to the mechanics of Halo Reach ones.


So that means you automatically know how jetpack abuse works in Reach? Yeah, no. As Sentox said, just because it can be countered doesn't make it a positive contribution to gameplay.


I love the fact people claim that a simple number as K/D ratio is the one true measure of skill.

you still sit claiming you're superior due to K/D ratio and claim that's no reason to vs someone as the match has already been decided, funny that because then any race can be settled purely on who's car has the highest horse power right ?


K/D =/= horsepower. Horsepower is representative of the engines potential workload capacity {i.e. POTENTIAL). K/D is the measure of how well the player has been doing in terms of kills to deaths, which is everything in slayer and a good portion in objective (i.e. HOW THE POTENTIAL HAS BEEN APPLIED).
You have neither potential nor applied potential. You suck at analogies.

You're just impossible. There's no help for you. You still have yet to counter anything. Just keep looping the same thing over and over again.

You have no argument, whatsoever. Still, you'll just keep putting off everybody's points proving you to be in the wrong because you have that "I'm right, everyone else is wrong" mentality.

  • 11.23.2011 1:54 PM PDT

Forget it man, and get with the countdown. Shake this square world and blast off for Kicksville.

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Posted by: Dwavenhobble
so while they get the line of sight advantage if they are that high its like a giant look I'm here beacon.

Also, I realise that I might as well be talking to my dog here (actually, that's probably an unduly harsh insult to my dog, since he's demonstrated the ability to comprehend, and learn), but educate yourself.

  • 11.23.2011 1:59 PM PDT
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Posted by: Dwavenhobble
Active camo to use use snipers and shotguns. Armour lock merely stops people getting the cheap jump on people and means either they can unlock and it comes down to shooting skill and shot placement. I do think it should force it to deactivate per 1/2 of the bar charge, so you can lock twice but you unlock and can't sit there as long.

You're kidding right?
"Cheep jump"? There's no such thing, if you're good enough, you should be able to hurt them alot of take them down aswell.

  • 11.23.2011 2:01 PM PDT


Posted by: Sentox6
Posted by: Dwavenhobble
Unless you're very terrible at shooting people using jetpacks normally stick out like sore thumbs when in the air, so while they get the line of sight advantage if they are that high its like a giant look I'm here beacon.

Utter, absolute, insurmountable ignorance.

You have no idea what it's like to face good jetpack users, or what the effective use of jetpack looks like. This is an absolute fact, not an opinion, and is the only relevant point in this context.
so you've gone back in my entire games history watched every match and can state I've never vsed anyone good with a jetpack. this includes every match in other games with similar jetpack mechanics I've ever played then to state this as fact.
wow well done I'd calculate that's about 150,000 matches over
5 maybe 6 different games


Posted by: BeeKay Stacker
Bearing in mind 2 of the MLG dev supported ones are halo ones and 1 of them had MLG support withdrawn due to the MLG demands getting worse, so I can only take that as you can name the other game with MLG dev supported playlists as you must have played it unless you're talking out your rear and have forgotten to take the stick out first.
What the -blam!-.

Actually you'd know of course not all franchise devs support MLG to the extend of modifying their game or aspects for MLG specific games etc so with Most games the MLG are only doing the best they can to make the games fit their idea of balanced they often can't changed a lot of what they want to. Only 4 games have ever had developers supporting and changing MLG playlists and in game features fit what MLG want exactly.
Halo 3, Halo Reach and two other games have had what MLG claim to be "perfectly balanced" MLG playlists adjusted to their idea of "perfect balance"

  • 11.23.2011 2:02 PM PDT


Posted by: oceano4

Posted by: Dwavenhobble
Active camo to use use snipers and shotguns. Armour lock merely stops people getting the cheap jump on people and means either they can unlock and it comes down to shooting skill and shot placement. I do think it should force it to deactivate per 1/2 of the bar charge, so you can lock twice but you unlock and can't sit there as long.

You're kidding right?
"Cheep jump"? There's no such thing, if you're good enough, you should be able to hurt them alot of take them down aswell.

yeh unfortunately getting a shot or two in first can put you at a good advantage with shotgun or sniper a significant one if you fail to get the kill. AL stops them getting this easy kill when they've screwed up the first attempt.

  • 11.23.2011 2:05 PM PDT

Forget it man, and get with the countdown. Shake this square world and blast off for Kicksville.

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Posted by: Dwavenhobble
this includes every match in other games with similar jetpack mechanics I've ever played then to state this as fact.

No it doesn't. I would say "nice try", but it's too desperate for that.

Your experience with jetpacks in other games is irrelevant. Those other games have quite different mechanics (weapon effectiveness, secondary abilities, player traits, etc), different map design built around those mechanics... the list goes on almost infinitely. I doubt it would mean anything to you though, because your analysis would be "hurrrr shoot things".

So, you've played 520 games of Reach matchmaking at an amazingly low skill level, mostly in lolBTB. Wow.

Actually you'd know of course not all franchise devs support MLG to the extend of modifying their game or aspects for MLG specific games etc so with Most games the MLG are only doing the best they can to make the games fit their idea of balanced they often can't changed a lot of what they want to. Only 4 games have ever had developers supporting and changing MLG playlists and in game features fit what MLG want exactly.
Halo 3, Halo Reach and two other games have had what MLG claim to be "perfectly balanced" MLG playlists adjusted to their idea of "perfect balance"

Lay off the drugs, kid. Seriously.

  • 11.23.2011 2:09 PM PDT


Posted by: BeeKay Stacker


Yeah, hence why it would be "misconstrued". You fail at the English language so hard. And you want to hold yourself as more intelligent than others? Ha! What a joke.

Nope as its clear you don't like me so saying how I should be banned isn't mistaking you being angry at me and angry people make threats.
Wow grammar -blam!-, moment the resort of the true moron looking to appear superior, what next you gonna call for a measuring contest lol ?

Posted by: BeeKay Stacker
You're posting the same ignorant crap across the forums.

Actually as you decided to pick up me on a point let me do the same.
I'm only posting on the Reach forum therefore I am not posting the same ignorant crap across the forums I am only posting in in one forum or across the threads in this forum.


Posted by: BeeKay Stacker
That qualifies as spam. That warrants a ban.

There it is again calling for me to be banned, way to prove my points for me.

Posted by: BeeKay Stacker
It has nothing to do with the fact that you are actively representing the decay of the modern educational system.

So the same educational system that put me working with soon to be a very well known researcher to produce tricyclic tri substituted protected guanidine in a lab from simple components for the first time ever, yeh the education system today.


Posted by: BeeKay Stacker

Funny you should mention butthurt, as you seem awful asspained at the prospect of being called bad.


No its called dragging you down off your ego trip to realise you're no more than average at best.

Posted by: BeeKay Stacker

Funny, the only delusional one around here appears to be you. It's sad that you're a delusional in addition to being a reclusive aspie.


oooohhhh insulting special needs people that makes you so cool. What I can use google what must make me an aspie, you called me on saying MLG had shotgun so I googled it to make sure. Guess that makes me aspie because I can use 30 seconds using google to find something to make back up what I said.

Oh wait no it just makes you a dumbass for calling me on something and going full out attack without bothering to check the facts to begin with yourself just going full out in the belief you're right because for god as your witness you cannot be wrong.

^small amount of terrible political humour there

Posted by: BeeKay Stacker
Because the past = now, right? Shotguns are not currently in MLG, making you wrong you -blam!- illiterate

So the fact I said its used in a current MLG variation and still on the MLG lan competition scene means MLG don't use it, sure they don't and the moon is made of cheese.


Posted by: BeeKay Stacker
inbred, retard. Christ, how's that extra chromosome pair treating you? Apparently not well.

well mr English teacher that list of qualities I possess should have had either a semi colon or comma at the start so it should read
making you wrong you,
or
making you wrong you;

Posted by: BeeKay Stacker

If it is not in MLG currently, they are not there. You are wrong and again have no idea what you're talking about.


So because they only use it in Lan and official tournaments means they don't use it...... sure does and the sun revolves round the earth too.

Posted by: BeeKay Stacker

This has nothing to do with anything. Whether the games are MLG developer (stop trying to sound like you know what you're talking about by saying "dev") supported or not, MLG does not change the game's base gameplay.


My point being with no bells or whistles games play very much the same, the only main difference is weapon effectiveness

Posted by: BeeKay Stacker


Because Halo Reach jetpacks= jetpacks in other games, right? That's the weakest argument I've ever heard.



So skills aren't transferable right ?
thats why logic and reasoning can never be applied to any situation other than logic and reasoning problems right not other situations outside of theoretical problems ?

Now there's a weak argument as you're saying games with similar mechanics won't allow people good at them to transfer skills.

So by that people good at Halo 3 aren't better at Reach right ?

Posted by: BeeKay Stacker


And your whole argument is blindly stating that you understand when you repeatedly make it apparent that you don't with no viable evidence to the contrary, so...

So the fact I don't count "you're not skilled enough" as an argument shows lack of understanding.

That's enjoyable like the claim Shakespeare couldn't have written any of his plays because he wasn't from a so called noble family or lineage.

Posted by: BeeKay Stacker


So that means you automatically know how jetpack abuse works in Reach? Yeah, no. As Sentox said, just because it can be countered doesn't make it a positive contribution to gameplay.


Well considering I've pretty much grown up on jetpack based FPS games, I'd say I've got a fair bit of experience and knowledge of the typical mechanics and tricks you can do with them


[quote]Posted by: BeeKay Stacker

K/D =/= horsepower. Horsepower is representative of the engines potential workload capacity {i.e. POTENTIAL)

And K/D is somehow more than a potential, in fact I'd say its even less than a potential due to how it can be modified to appear different

[quote]Posted by: BeeKay Stacker
. K/D is the measure of how well the player has been doing in terms of kills to deaths, which is everything in slayer and a good portion in objective (i.e. HOW THE POTENTIAL HAS BEEN APPLIED).
You have neither potential nor applied potential. You suck at analogies.

Unless of course its been made to look different, what matters in the end in any match is how it ends, not what's gone before or what stats say its the games result that shows the truth.


[quote]Posted by: BeeKay Stacker
You're just impossible. There's no help for you. You still have yet to counter anything. Just keep looping the same thing over and over again.

Why when the only counter you have produced is "I'm right because I'm better than you and I don;t have to prove that because what i say is automatically true"

turns out the earlier joke did go way over you head.

[quote]Posted by: BeeKay Stacker
You have no argument, whatsoever. Still, you'll just keep putting off everybody's points proving you to be in the wrong because you have that "I'm right, everyone else is wrong" mentality.

Well considering the only counter arguments so far are; "you suck", the ever popular "I'm right because I say so" and the really predictable "I'm right because you're stupid". I wonder why I'd hold a view about being right when no counter has undermined the main point only tried to undermine me making the point.

  • 11.23.2011 3:12 PM PDT

Forget it man, and get with the countdown. Shake this square world and blast off for Kicksville.

Reach host ranking algorithm: (a*quit_percentage + b*isMexican + c*(1/KDR) + d*hasGuest) * 100
where a > b = d > c

Posted by: Dwavenhobble
Beirut, step down. It's time to crown a new King of the Retards.

  • 11.23.2011 3:18 PM PDT


Posted by: Sentox6
Posted by: Dwavenhobble
this includes every match in other games with similar jetpack mechanics I've ever played then to state this as fact.

No it doesn't. I would say "nice try", but it's too desperate for that.

Your experience with jetpacks in other games is irrelevant.

So people who played Halo 3 have idea how to play Halo Reach right ?
transferable skills....

Posted by: Sentox6
Those other games have quite different mechanics (weapon effectiveness, secondary abilities, player traits, etc), different map design built around those mechanics... the list goes on almost infinitely. I doubt it would mean anything to you though, because your analysis would be "hurrrr shoot things".

So because I've not been in the exact situation before with the exact parameters doesn't mean I can't adapt using previously learned skills. Wow I'm just glad this isn't taught to surgeons as it would be, oh no sorry I can't operate on you to do x because I've never operated one someone exactly the same as you before only someone with some similarities.

Posted by: Sentox6
So, you've played 520 games of Reach matchmaking at an amazingly low skill level, mostly in lolBTB. Wow.

Transferable skills.
Also well done for putting down all the people I've ever played with including forerunners, inheritors, nobles, mythics etc. sure they'll thank you for calling them low skill competition as will all the clans I've run into in matchmaking trying to pubstomp.

Posted by: Sentox6
Lay off the drugs, kid. Seriously.

No need for drugs you just have to be able to open the lid and climb out that nice box.

  • 11.23.2011 3:20 PM PDT


Posted by: Sentox6
Posted by: Dwavenhobble
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  • 11.23.2011 3:21 PM PDT

Forget it man, and get with the countdown. Shake this square world and blast off for Kicksville.

Reach host ranking algorithm: (a*quit_percentage + b*isMexican + c*(1/KDR) + d*hasGuest) * 100
where a > b = d > c

Posted by: Dwavenhobble
So people who played Halo 3 have idea how to play Halo Reach right?

Halo 3 does have similar mechanics to Halo Reach. Which might make it a relevant addition to your experience... if it had -blam!- jetpacks in it.

Wow I'm just glad this isn't taught to surgeons as it would be, oh no sorry I can't operate on you to do x because I've never operated one someone exactly the same as you before only someone with some similarities.
To skilled players, there are big differences between various FPS games in terms of mechanics, although you wouldn't understand that.

So no, I wouldn't want a cardiac surgeon performing neurosurgery on me, thank you.

Also well done for putting down all the people I've ever played with including forerunners, inheritors, nobles, mythics etc. sure they'll thank you for calling them low skill competition as will all the clans I've run into in matchmaking trying to pubstomp.
Wow. Holy -blam!-. HOLY -blam!-. You actually think rank in Reach is correlated with skill.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Your stupidity is beyond infinite.

No need for drugs you just have to be able to open the lid and climb out that nice box.
Huh. They must be some pretty heavy drugs.

[Edited on 11.23.2011 3:27 PM PST]

  • 11.23.2011 3:26 PM PDT

I don't need a specialized burger; I stack BKs on my own.


Posted by: Dwavenhobble


You're so ignorant and hypocritical I almost have to feel sorry for you.

Almost.

You haven't even the slightest comprehension of the English language despite it being your primary. You have absolutely nothing going in your favor. You have all the qualities of a brick wall which, as with Sentox's dog, is an insult to brick walls everywhere. At least brick walls have the capacity to listen and don't present retarded opinions in the face of excruciatingly blatant evidence pointing them in the wrong. Yes, I am implying that a brick wall has far more sentient and cognitive function than you.

It is my sincere hope that, for the hope of humanity's future, you do not go on to reproduce. The world is already teeming with morons without catalysts such as yourself entering the mix. All people like you do is perpetuate the steady downfall of education at an accelerated rate. I can only hope that if you do somehow impregnate some mongoloid with your rancid seed, your crotchspawn will off themselves post haste upon discovering where their genetic structure hails from.

You sir, are a disgrace to everything that can be considered a sentient being. The fact that ignorance such as yours exists can only be defined as a direct defiance of nature. I cannot fathom how one such as you exists. How do you manage to dress yourself? You must have a handler that facilitates your day-to-day functions. I wonder if your handler is the one who is typing these half-witted responses for you. If so, kindly smack him/her upside the head as they are consistently defecating all over the English language in addition to providing a means for you to convey your uneducated ideas. I shudder to think what your alleged super-intelligent paper looks like if you don't even grasp the basic concepts of primary school-level English.

I am also finding it more and more likely that you are also half-parrot, as you continue to recycle the same flawed argument (if that regurgitated, apparent hand seizure you appear to be having every time you post could be considered an argument) as if it hasn't been destroyed every time it's been laughably presented. You have yet to counter any of our arguments with evidence that holds any merit, and instead hold on to the delusion that you are somehow in the right and of a higher intelligence than the overwhelming majority of people who have called you on being insufferably idiotic. Why you hold on to such silly notions is beyond anybody's comprehension, as anybody with even the most basic cognitive function can see that you are indeed an idiot and have been beaten. Yet, like a dog being teased from the other side of the glass, you still proceed to try to bite.

Nothing you say embodies logic or rational thought processes in even the most basic sense. Your every post is mindless dribble, based only on your own egotistical crusade to prove that you are, contrary to all evidence, not completely horrible at Halo and somehow have an idea of what you're talking about.

In short:

Get the -blam!- out and stop breathing our air.

  • 11.23.2011 3:45 PM PDT