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Subject: Is the Anniversery Map Pack Enough to Save Reach?

Well, to all of the remaining people who don't already flame Reach, just face it, the game's in a slump. The TU hasn't been executed right, and more and more people are ditching it every day. But recently, the map pack came out, with a new playlist. In IMO it is a lot of fun, but is it really enough to bring back, or create a new popularity for Reach? Is this DLC alone the factor for people to come back to the game, or is it too late? What do you guys think?

  • 11.22.2011 8:57 PM PDT
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Everybody wants some.

In my opinion, they could release all the DLC for free and it still wouldn't save the game. It's a decent shooter, but nothing special like previous Halo titles.

  • 11.22.2011 8:59 PM PDT

To be honest, when I first saw all this in the weekly update I thought 2 things.
#1- there is an actual legendary ending but,
#2- No matter what anyone does,(kill all the bobs, hit all switches etc) that until the "time" mentioned in "There'll be another time..." is reached there won't be a legendary ending.

The weekly update by bungie has slowed my hardcore search for what unlocks the legendary ending.

Well, I believe 343 can save halo by adding in what halo was originally. That's a good start by adding halo cea, as well as REAL remakes, not some forge world remake. They made legends and they did really well (1337 doesn't count). They will get the beta in sometime, they probably have been dealing CEA atm now that its out. I already had to take a title update for it, so we know they are hard at work. If they keep going the way they are working, I think they can bring back Halo to its glory.

  • 11.22.2011 9:03 PM PDT

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Posted by: Pity
In my opinion, they could release all the DLC for free and it still wouldn't save the game. It's a decent shooter, but nothing special like previous Halo titles.

  • 11.22.2011 9:05 PM PDT
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Nope.

  • 11.22.2011 9:08 PM PDT

Reach is 100% perfect, and the single most competitive game since Candyland. Anyone who dares question the godly powers of Bungie is obviously just bad at Halo.

Between the new maps and the ZB MLG gametype that's going into MM 12/1, I will be on Reach for a LONG time. However, I doubt that the majority of casual, CoD loving gamers out there would agree with me.

  • 11.22.2011 9:09 PM PDT

Be sure to tell everyone how cool you are. If you don't tell them, they won't know.

What do you mean by "save" the game?

Clearly Reach's population has gone down; the game is over a year old. Adding new map packs will, of course, bring some people back and add re-playability, but it will never change the fact that it is now considered old.

People move on to new games far too fast in my opinion though still. My roommate is a classic example. Buys Gears of War 3, gets sick of it, moves to Battlefield, call of Duty comes out, changes to that. Then Skyrim came out and so on.

But I digress, it's an old game. The people who like it and want to play it will still play it. Maybe the numbers of people playing won't be as high as they have been, but 40,000-50,000 is still a hell of a lot of people for anyone to play. The majority of the players are halo veterans and old time fans, so the new maps are a treat for them. I still love it, and I'll keep playing it. Sure it's not my favorite Halo game, but it's still pretty fun to me and my friends.

(Unrelated: A lot of people I know think halo is a game for only nerdy types and think Call of Duty is a more socially acceptable thing to play. Maybe that's why.)

  • 11.22.2011 9:41 PM PDT

NO.

  • 11.22.2011 9:42 PM PDT

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the anniversary maps are crap

  • 11.22.2011 9:46 PM PDT
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Posted by: Deep Fryed Emu
Clearly Reach's population has gone down; the game is over a year old. Adding new map packs will, of course, bring some people back and add re-playability, but it will never change the fact that it is now considered old.


The maps aren't the problem it's the gameplay itself, even if they released amazing maps the game is still going to play the same and people just don't like it. The randomness of bloom was a huge factor in many people leaving and now it's to late to bring all of them back.

Also being an old game doesn't really matter, MW2 is 2 years old, BO is a year old and both still have a higher population than Reach. It's just Reach wasn't a great Halo game and we all know it. It's not a horrible game but just wasn't Halo to many.

  • 11.22.2011 9:47 PM PDT

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Posted by: SYN Burning Sky
Between the new maps and the ZB MLG gametype that's going into MM 12/1, I will be on Reach for a LONG time.
Hell yes.

  • 11.22.2011 9:48 PM PDT

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Not even MacGyver could save the sinking asbestos-permeated ship known as lolreach.

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No. Even if the map were free, they ain't bringing people back. It's the stupid ass gameplay mechanics that drove everyone off, and the changes now that 343 is doing is far too late to make any impact or entice players to come back.

  • 11.22.2011 9:48 PM PDT

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Posted by:(Unrelated: A lot of people I know think halo is a game for only nerdy types and think Call of Duty is a more socially acceptable thing to play. Maybe that's why.)
Right. I think since Halo is sci-fi and has aliens and whatnot, the more ignorant, casual gamers just see it as nerdy but CoD is fine to them because it's realistic and based on real military scenarios. I like Halo better though. Who wants to play something realistic? That's not necessarily fun.

^To the post above. As far as stupid game mechanics, I'd say Armor Lock was the main issue. I think people are going to look back on previous Halo games and think "Halo 3 was awesome. Halo: Reach was cool but too often detracted by dumb -blam!- like Armor Lock and Active Camo".

[Edited on 11.22.2011 11:39 PM PST]

  • 11.22.2011 11:36 PM PDT

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Two CoD games, Gears 3, Battlefield 3 and Fifa 12 have all been released, as well as lots of other triple-A games, and Reach still pulls the figures it does. Just give up with the doom mongering. Reach has been 'dying' and 'going to die in X months' since it launched, you lot are like a group of Harold Campings. Change the record.

  • 11.22.2011 11:54 PM PDT

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Posted by: Apocalypse
Yeah.

  • 11.23.2011 12:17 AM PDT

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Posted by: annoyinginge
Two CoD games, Gears 3, Battlefield 3 and Fifa 12 have all been released, as well as lots of other triple-A games, and Reach still pulls the figures it does. Just give up with the doom mongering. Reach has been 'dying' and 'going to die in X months' since it launched, you lot are like a group of Harold Campings. Change the record.


Well Said!

People should blame the over-saturated game market....just way too many releases in a couple of months. As it has happened always, Halo fans and veterans will stick to Reach in LIVE up until Halo 4 is out. For now we should be more worried about 343 not screwing it up, including cheap and stupid mechanics like Armor Lock that just destroy the flow of gameplay.

At least Franky is 'punishing' anyone in the 343 team that comes up with "bright" ideas for Halo 4 which will surely destroy the classic Halo feeling.

Lots of expectations, in the end it might be a good thing that Bungie let Halo go for some time, just as the 20th Anniversary Documentary guy said: " The idea that Bungie would make Halo for a million years was inconceivable".

Personally I think Halo: Anniversary was a good start (don't start moaning about multiplayer, technically it would have taken a lot of resources and time to rewrite the MP code from ground up). The positive thing is that while going back to the first game, they are recognizing what made Halo a cultural phenomenon and such a thrilling experience.

Only time will tell, we still don't know for sure how high the quality and ambition 343 is aiming for with Halo 4. For now at least we know there's some really talented people among the staff.

http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/343_Industries

And if they continue to host great Halofests .... what can go wrong? haha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvgWiXlj65Q

(Look for the Halofest summary video on LIVE Marketplaace - Not available on YouTube yet).

PS: still I'm dying to know something solid about Bungie's new IP....just look at the number of job offerings....it's huge!!!

No news on 2012 > Sad Panda :(



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  • 11.23.2011 12:29 AM PDT

I have to agree with a lot of the comments above mainly the sci fi aspect I think a lot of people think that's nerdy which it kinda is but I like that. Also I think halo is a much harder game than cod. I dont think halo:reach failed just cod took over the market.

  • 11.23.2011 12:37 AM PDT
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improve the booting system and i might start playing this again. and im not wasting 40 bucks on hce when i can get the map packs cheaper seperately in a few months

  • 11.23.2011 1:11 AM PDT

Looking to hook up with some competent players! Please PM me if you want a decent team mate, looking to learn from good players and impart what I know to the team too. Im sick of going 'randy' and getting betrayed for the sniper etc.. and having to put up with BK team mates

Theres an Anniversary map pack?

Im still lost in skyrim!

  • 11.23.2011 1:14 AM PDT

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Posted by: annoyinginge
Two CoD games, Gears 3, Battlefield 3 and Fifa 12 have all been released, as well as lots of other triple-A games, and Reach still pulls the figures it does. Just give up with the doom mongering. Reach has been 'dying' and 'going to die in X months' since it launched, you lot are like a group of Harold Campings. Change the record.


You say that. Forums say "nope, the only reason people don't play Reach is it's bad."

  • 11.23.2011 3:13 AM PDT

"I don't mean to sound bitter, cold or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out"
- Bill Hicks

Reach doesn't need saving seeing as all the people who think it's terrible can't stop playing it.

[Edited on 11.23.2011 3:28 AM PST]

  • 11.23.2011 3:28 AM PDT

I didn't hear Reach ask for any help.

  • 11.23.2011 5:52 AM PDT

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Xenoblade <3

Who knows.

  • 11.23.2011 6:06 AM PDT

Reach doesn't need saving, because Halo 4 is on the horizon. I'm content with the Anniversary gametypes until more details about that title trickle in.

Also, really curious what changes (if any) the Arena is gonna get next season.

  • 11.23.2011 6:07 AM PDT

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