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Subject: if armor lock was removed would hardcore halo fans be satisfied?

I've seen that a lot of people complain about aa. But I'm wondering if just armor lock disappeared if people would get over a lot of the other aa and classify reach as a satisfying game? I personally use sprint and wouldn't want that removed from the game the rest I could do without but in the end only hate armor lock. Wondering what everyone thinks no armor lock = a good halo game? (Also I personally am not a reach hater I like the game but not a fan of armor lock, having someone come save your a** doesn't show skill.

  • 11.24.2011 3:24 PM PDT

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I love Armor lock. The way I play, it's no problem to me. If it was removed, everyone would complain about something else.

  • 11.24.2011 3:26 PM PDT

I've honestly had enough of armour lock. But have am also sick of these forum posts about it. However I think the hardcore fans would mostly be satisfied.

  • 11.24.2011 3:32 PM PDT
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Posted by: GlassesGuy 904
I love Armor lock.


Because you suck.

  • 11.24.2011 3:33 PM PDT
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There is a lot more problems in this game than armor lock.

  • 11.24.2011 3:33 PM PDT
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Posted by: DMR
There is a lot more problems in this game than armor lock.


This..

There are a lot of other playlists what don't have AL so those "hardcore halo fans" can play with out it.

Bloom on the other hand is in every playlist.

[Edited on 11.24.2011 3:44 PM PST]

  • 11.24.2011 3:39 PM PDT
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yes, ALOT of people would be satisifed, including me.

  • 11.24.2011 3:43 PM PDT

Just to clarify I'm not saying armor lock is the only problem but if that alone was removed would more hardcore fans be at bare minimum be satisfied.

  • 11.24.2011 3:45 PM PDT
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Imagine a triangle. It's perfect, but a little plain. You take a chisel, and carve a small decorative symbol into it to make it a little more interesting. People like it, but it could use a little more.

So you then take a sledgehammer..

-Bloom
-Grenades
-Melee
-Sword Block
-Evade
-Maps

Just to name a few. Don't get me wrong, I like Reach but as a Halo game it needs some improvement.

[Edited on 11.24.2011 3:49 PM PST]

  • 11.24.2011 3:48 PM PDT

Since bloom has already been brought up...can someone please explain why you want the ability to spam shots someone who can handle bloom better has better skill. That's simple better players should like bloom.

  • 11.24.2011 3:51 PM PDT
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Posted by: Z TOWN187
Since bloom has already been brought up...can someone please explain why you want the ability to spam shots someone who can handle bloom better has better skill. That's simple better players should like bloom.
Bloom is broken.

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Imagine a triangle. It's perfect, but a little plain. You take a chisel, and carve a small decorative symbol into it to make it a little more interesting. People like it, but it could use a little more.

So you then take a sledgehammer..


Posted by: Z TOWN187
Since bloom has already been brought up...can someone please explain why you want the ability to spam shots someone who can handle bloom better has better skill. That's simple better players should like bloom.

Removing bloom isn't all that needs to be done in order to fix the problem, the rate of fire should be slowed down as well.

Bloom as it is now simply doesn't work on the DMR, the primary precision weapon, as it should. It mostly (if not all) comes down to luck.

[Edited on 11.24.2011 3:55 PM PST]

  • 11.24.2011 3:53 PM PDT

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Yes remove it, it adds a whole new sub-category of noob.

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Posted by: GlassesGuy 904
I love Armor lock. The way I play, it's no problem to me. If it was removed, everyone would complain about something else.


Hardcore halo fans would be upset because the integrity of the original game would be tampered with. Bungie made AL for a reason, because they thought it was cool. Quit hatin on my AL!

  • 11.24.2011 4:16 PM PDT

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so far, so good.

With the TU changes, AL is much better, not so over powered.

AL is great for BTB. Sucks in Slayer Games for 4 v 4.

  • 11.24.2011 4:19 PM PDT

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Posted by: Z TOWN187
Since bloom has already been brought up...can someone please explain why you want the ability to spam shots someone who can handle bloom better has better skill. That's simple better players should like bloom.

Removing bloom isn't all that needs to be done in order to fix the problem, the rate of fire should be slowed down as well.

Bloom as it is now simply doesn't work on the DMR, the primary precision weapon, as it should. It mostly (if not all) comes down to luck.


The problem with bloom, is that the bullet spread is random.

If the bullets kept to the edge of the blooming recticle, then Bloom, would have been perfect, pacing your shots would have definately given you an advantage over the person who is spamming.

But as this is not the case, the person who is spamming, can have the DMR at full bloom, and get a lucky random head shot. This is why Bloom does not work.

If Bloom was set like my original statement "bullets kept to the edge of the blooming recticle" then Bloom would have been perfect, and the better player or more patient player would win battles 1 v 1 nearly 100% of the time.

  • 11.24.2011 4:22 PM PDT

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so far, so good.


Posted by: GlassesGuy 904
I love Armor lock. The way I play, it's no problem to me. If it was removed, everyone would complain about something else.


It's the Bungie Forums, someone is always complaining about something.

If REACH was the perfect game of all time, everything perfect, people would still find something to complain about.

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  • 11.24.2011 4:31 PM PDT


Posted by: A Random Turtle
-Bloom
-Grenades
-Melee
-Sword Block
-Evade
-Maps

Just to name a few. Don't get me wrong, I like Reach but as a Halo game it needs some improvement.


whats wrong with the grenades? are they too overpowered? go play halo 3 and you will see overpowered grenades

  • 11.24.2011 4:31 PM PDT

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My problems [with Reach] are basically just full parties, mlg, and people who go out of their way not to get killed.


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Posted by: GlassesGuy 904
I love Armor lock. The way I play, it's no problem to me. If it was removed, everyone would complain about something else.


It's the Bungie Forums, someone is always complaining about something.

If REACH was the perfect game of all time, everything perfect, people would still find something to complain about.


You say this like complaining is exclusive to the Halo community.

On-topic: Yes, it would be a step in the right direction.

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Personally I'd say no. Loadouts in general frustrate me, yet AAs as pickups don't.

And then on top of that there are a few other mechanical issues that don't work very well regardless of the settings.

  • 11.24.2011 4:42 PM PDT

The only people who have problems with Armour Lock are people who can't deal with it.

I've been around since Halo:CE, long before Halo 2 was ever announced. Guess what, I don't care about Armour Lock. All he is doing is putting his death off for a few seconds and giving me more time to get into a better position or recharge shields etc.

Armour Lock hurts the person using it far more than anyone else unless of course you're bad and can't deal with Armour Lock.

  • 11.24.2011 5:27 PM PDT
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If armor abilities disappeared I'd be happy

  • 11.24.2011 5:30 PM PDT
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The problem isn't AL, it's noobs with AL. If I had a penny for every time I saw someone sitting in Armor Lock waiting to be saved, I'd be rich. If I had a penny for every time I saw someone use it to deflect a deadly attack, I'd be a poor, yet happy man. About 10% of the AL fans use skill, the others can go back to camping in COD. But if every person who had skill used armor lock,I'm almost positive there would be more rage then ever. If it were to be removed, then who's to say hologram isn't overpowered? If hardcore Halo fans want to play halo then stay out of reach, or at least out of certain playlists. When released, Bungie wanted this to be a whole NEW experience. We had AL in the beta, we have it now. So in general, we had the chance to remove it but now I'm sure we all regret it. I say take it out, replace it with a sheild or not at all. Noobs with ragequit reach, no AL, no AL noobs. Two birds one glorious stone.

[Edited on 11.24.2011 5:43 PM PST]

  • 11.24.2011 5:38 PM PDT
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Posted by: DMR
There are a lot more problems in this game other than armor lock.

  • 11.24.2011 5:39 PM PDT

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