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Subject: Who's a better character? Master Chief or Noble 6

In terms of accomplishments, Chief would probably win, since we know little to nothing about what Six did outside what he/she does in the game, and what little other info we receive from the others talking about him/her. But at the same time, Six willingly stayed behind on Reach to allow the Autumn to escape, with full knowledge what the consequence would be. Of course, Master Chief put himself into immensely dangerous situations as well. Such as on the level Cortana, where he infiltrates High Charity, which is now crawling with flood everywhere. (The only level I hate more than that one is the Library)

In terms of Character development, saying that we've been through more with the Chief is an understatement. He was the first character that we played as, and he's practically the face of Halo. To be fair, I'm only going to focus on how Chief developed in CE, and how Six developed in Reach. Both characters throughout their respective debut seemed like they didn't have much of a personality. But as the game went on there were some times where we could catch glimpses of their actual humanity.

The best example I can think of for Chief is in the level Keys, at when Cortana's telling him "You Know what he'd expect...what he'd want us to do." From how chief reacts, you can tell that he doesn't want to do it, but in the end he has no choice.

The best example I can think of for Six, is at the beginning of the level Exodus, right after he/she picks up the magnum from the debris and head for the city. After watching the covenant lay waste to the human forces, he/she briefly pulls out Jorge's dog tags, before putting them away. In both cases, although they never say anything, we get to see what they're thinking. In the end I think that both of them as characters are tied. But in terms of popularity, Chief wins.

[Edited on 11.27.2011 11:13 AM PST]

  • 11.27.2011 11:11 AM PDT

Pwning noobs in school since 1969 *sigh*

Both. Because we play as them.

  • 11.27.2011 12:23 PM PDT

Master Chief, no contest.

He is far more developed AND interesting than Noble Six. But then again, there are some who prefer Noble Team for no apparent reason other than "they are more developed than the Chief". I ask them "why?", and (no kidding) they respond me with crap like "they remove their helmets in front of each other which represents a bond". WHAT?!?

And don't pull me that horrible excuse "Master Chief has three games while Noble Team is only in one", because a whole Campaign was dedicated to those mediocre Spartan soldiers, and they can't do a single thing right. 9 missions where nothing happens, and finally in the last one Bungie starts developing their characters, too bad that last mission includes the infamous Emile's death cutscene, which defies all logic.

[Edited on 11.27.2011 1:35 PM PST]

  • 11.27.2011 1:32 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

You know what, I'm better than that. Disregard.

[Edited on 11.27.2011 1:42 PM PST]

  • 11.27.2011 1:38 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
You know what, I'm better than that. Disregard.
Yes, please don't waste my valuable time, we all know that you mix emotions with logic, and the results are always laughable.

  • 11.27.2011 1:46 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

You do to, so stones and glass houses and all that.

  • 11.27.2011 2:08 PM PDT

In memory of those fallen in the defense of Earth and her colonies.

March 3, 2553

Noble6 is ghey like Reach.

MC forever

[Edited on 11.27.2011 3:11 PM PST]

  • 11.27.2011 3:11 PM PDT


Posted by: The BIack
So yeah, if the best freaking AI chose him over 6 is because he has something to him, call it luck or whatever you want.


I've never heard of Cortana as "The best AI". Though, to counter-act your point. If I'm given a list of things, and I pick one, does that mean something that wasn't even on the same list is worse? Not really.

And look, Juen is once again mindlessly bashing Reach. Kinda funny there, as I've personally never seen anybody reply to liking Noble Team over Master Chief with "They remove their helmets to represent a bond."

  • 11.27.2011 3:16 PM PDT
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Crayons taste funny.

Hasn't this topic been made like a thousand times?

  • 11.27.2011 3:31 PM PDT


Posted by: DarkShad120
Hasn't this topic been made like a thousand times?


Most started as Vs, this started as a general "Hey yell your opinion." Then turned into a vs of sorts.

  • 11.27.2011 3:42 PM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: The BIack
So yeah, if the best freaking AI chose him over 6 is because he has something to him, call it luck or whatever you want.


I've never heard of Cortana as "The best AI". Though, to counter-act your point. If I'm given a list of things, and I pick one, does that mean something that wasn't even on the same list is worse? Not really.

And look, Juen is once again mindlessly bashing Reach. Kinda funny there, as I've personally never seen anybody reply to liking Noble Team over Master Chief with "They remove their helmets to represent a bond."


Let's not forget that Cortana was made by scanning/replicating Dr. Halsey's brain and so, she shares a lot of things with her...Like the favoritism for John that was so clear on Dr. Halsey.

  • 11.27.2011 3:42 PM PDT

Halsey had favoritism towards john because she figured he was the best, to be fair

  • 11.27.2011 3:52 PM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."


Posted by: xZcNx MarcWagz
Halsey had favoritism towards john because she figured he was the best, to be fair


Ever since he was a kid she had a liking for him...

  • 11.27.2011 4:02 PM PDT

I don't fight because I hate what's in front of me, I fight because I love what's behind me.

Well I was just stating my opinion, however I'm not understimating Noble Six, he and John were the only two hyper-lethal spartans on the project and I do accept that Noble Six's record is amazing, he also helped get the Pillar of Autumn and Cortana out of Reach. However John has all the medals known to exist on the USNC except for prisioner of war, he is the most condecorated officer and has saved a hell lot more of lifes.

  • 11.27.2011 4:20 PM PDT
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Do not waste your tears, I was not born to watch the world grow dim. Life is not measured in years, but by the deeds of men.

Posted by: goldhawk
We should know better, because we are better.

I am going to say the Chief because he has a character; Six has no character because you are supposed to insert your own. If Six got a book or short story however...

  • 11.27.2011 4:27 PM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: The BIack
So yeah, if the best freaking AI chose him over 6 is because he has something to him, call it luck or whatever you want.


I've never heard of Cortana as "The best AI". Though, to counter-act your point. If I'm given a list of things, and I pick one, does that mean something that wasn't even on the same list is worse? Not really.

And look, Juen is once again mindlessly bashing Reach. Kinda funny there, as I've personally never seen anybody reply to liking Noble Team over Master Chief with "They remove their helmets to represent a bond."
My name is Juan, thank you very much.

Mindlessly bashing Reach? Better than leaving an argument because you can't come up with another way to defend your beloved Halo: Reach. Don't deny it, similar thread, I carefully explained why the Chief is far a better and more developed character, and you never replied back at me. Rather than that, you ignored my post. I should start doing that, I mean, seriously? Just leave my argument there rather than reply at me with something like "Alright good sir, I'm wrong, my apologies for wasting your time". That would be acceptable, you and I know I'm right.

And yes, there's a guy who made a thread (more like wall text), "carefully explaining" the importance of the Spartan-III removing their helmets in the game, which made no sense. Kat not liking Noble Team because she lost her arm and fears they might think she is useless now? What? Can't really say what's funnier, the thread itself, or everyone actually agreeing with that poor dude.

  • 11.27.2011 6:00 PM PDT

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  • 11.27.2011 6:15 PM PDT

You'll have to link me to said topic, as I don't remember it.

Though I remember you stressed Master Chief's gestures and such showed character/development, but seem to think Six doing the same = nothing worth noting.

And Yes, Mindlessly bashing Reach as you and some others come into topics and go after those liking it, or the game in general overall. Others who completely despised the campaign have moved on and stop bringing this retarded -blam!- up yet you all do.

I can talk to a guy who doesn't like the storyline of the campaign and we'll be completely civil. You on the other hand...

  • 11.27.2011 6:16 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: Juan Teran
And yes, there's a guy who made a thread (more like wall text), "carefully explaining" the importance of the Spartan-III removing their helmets in the game, which made no sense. Kat not liking Noble Team because she lost her arm and fears they might think she is useless now? What? Can't really say what's funnier, the thread itself, or everyone actually agreeing with that poor dude.


Sounds more like that you know it makes perfect sense, but you're so dedicated to the anti-Noble mindset that you feel the need to make fun of it to save face.

For the part in bold, you really don't understand it? LOL.

  • 11.27.2011 6:21 PM PDT

"Find where the liar hides, so that I may place my boot between his gums!" - Rtas 'Vadum

Posted by: Juan Teran
Yes, please don't waste my valuable time,

You are on an internet forum...

  • 11.27.2011 6:26 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: anton1792
Posted by: Juan Teran
Yes, please don't waste my valuable time,

You are on an internet forum...

No, no Anton, let him feel like he's special.

  • 11.27.2011 6:32 PM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
You'll have to link me to said topic, as I don't remember it.
http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=65830540

Had quite a good laugh.

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Though I remember you stressed Master Chief's gestures and such showed character/development, but seem to think Six doing the same = nothing worth noting.
Yes, because I'm tired of this:

Guy who likes Noble Team: They should make a novel of Noble Team, because their characters are awesome!

Guy who doesn't likes Noble Team: Their characters were mediocre, poorly developed, and their existance brought a million plot holes to the Halo Universe. Personally, we would prefer if 343 Industries decided to erase them from the universe.

Guy who likes Noble Team:: EVERYONE LOVES MASTER CHIEF AND HE IS HORRIBLY DEVELOPED BECAUSE HE HAS NO PERSONALITY >:( MOAR RAGE CUZ THE MAJORITY DOESN'T AGREES WITH MEHHH!!!

Seriously, this has to stop. They always bring the Chief to the discussion because they can't defend those mediocre Spartan-III otherwise. It's truly frustrating, main reason I had to take some of my time and explain carefully why the Chief has more personality and is far more developed. Too bad you simply decided to ignore my post.

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
And Yes, Mindlessly bashing Reach as you and some others come into topics and go after those liking it, or the game in general overall. Others who completely despised the campaign have moved on and stop bringing this retarded -blam!- up yet you all do.

I can talk to a guy who doesn't like the storyline of the campaign and we'll be completely civil. You on the other hand...
Really now? What about a few months ago, when everyone would start saying that the Spartan-III soldiers were FAR SUPERIOR than the Spartan-II soldiers. Gosh was that one of the most frustrating experiences I've had in this forum, as they would simply say that they were evenly fighting in Ghost of Onyx, and the only advantage the Spartan-II soldiers had was their armor.

Someone finally found an argument that said that the Spartan-II soldiers were FAR BETTER, no one could counter that argument, and they finally shut their -blam!- mouths. I want that too, I want everyone to shut the hell up with Reach, the campaign and characters were horrible and there's nothing you guys can do. Sure, 343I can find stuff in order for everything to make sense, but in the end, it's still a stupid campaign that made no sense, with poorly developed characters that made you wonder why can't you just kill them?

To be honest, the arguments from those who liked Reach are turning weaker and weaker. It's just a matter of time.

  • 11.27.2011 6:35 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: Juan Teran

Guy who likes Noble Team: They should make a novel of Noble Team, because their characters are awesome!


I know, people wanting background information on characters. Terrible.

Guy who doesn't likes Noble Team: Their characters were mediocre, poorly developed, and their existance brought a million plot holes to the Halo Universe. Personally, we would prefer if 343 Industries decided to erase them from the universe.

So here is the perfect reason to change that. But I suppose plugging your ears saying "NANANANANANA!" would be far easier?

Guy who likes Noble Team:: EVERYONE LOVES MASTER CHIEF AND HE IS HORRIBLY DEVELOPED BECAUSE HE HAS NO PERSONALITY >:( MOAR RAGE CUZ THE MAJORITY DOESN'T AGREES WITH MEHHH!!!

Seriously, this has to stop. They always bring the Chief to the discussion because they can't defend those mediocre Spartan-III otherwise. It's truly frustrating, main reason I had to take some of my time and explain carefully why the Chief has more personality and is far more developed. Too bad you simply decided to ignore my post.


Seems like CavemanBCE did a wonderful job defending Noble Team, but you ignore it because it does just that. That's your loss.

To be honest, the arguments from those who liked Reach are turning weaker and weaker. It's just a matter of time.

Not all that hurtful coming from the guy who has difficulty comprehending why Kat may feel useless and worry the rest of Noble would think the same after losing her arm.

  • 11.27.2011 6:42 PM PDT

A: You didn't even understand what I mean by the topic.

B: Expect the only thing I've been saying in the 'third' line is that if you look at ONLY the games, let's say CE being Chief's first game, you can't honestly say his character was so much more developed in Halo CE ALONE, without bringing anything else in.

C: The only thing I remember of that time was how the one group was saying Spartan 3's could be just as good as Spartan 2's, not they were far superior. Can't recall any argument that proved Spartan 2's were far better without a doubt regardless of situation or person. I remember a bunch of BS about the results of the augmentations that couldn't be backed up.

Amusingly enough, the only people who can't shut up and move on from these Reach arguments turned bad is... You Juen. You and a few others who feel the need to bash anybody who dares like something you do not.

  • 11.27.2011 6:47 PM PDT

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Posted by: Schulex
In terms of accomplishments, Chief would probably win, since we know little to nothing about what Six did outside what he/she does in the game, and what little other info we receive from the others talking about him/her. But at the same time, Six willingly stayed behind on Reach to allow the Autumn to escape, with full knowledge what the consequence would be. Of course, Master Chief put himself into immensely dangerous situations as well. Such as on the level Cortana, where he infiltrates High Charity, which is now crawling with flood everywhere. (The only level I hate more than that one is the Library)

In terms of Character development, saying that we've been through more with the Chief is an understatement. He was the first character that we played as, and he's practically the face of Halo. To be fair, I'm only going to focus on how Chief developed in CE, and how Six developed in Reach. Both characters throughout their respective debut seemed like they didn't have much of a personality. But as the game went on there were some times where we could catch glimpses of their actual humanity.

The best example I can think of for Chief is in the level Keys, at when Cortana's telling him "You Know what he'd expect...what he'd want us to do." From how chief reacts, you can tell that he doesn't want to do it, but in the end he has no choice.

The best example I can think of for Six, is at the beginning of the level Exodus, right after he/she picks up the magnum from the debris and head for the city. After watching the covenant lay waste to the human forces, he/she briefly pulls out Jorge's dog tags, before putting them away. In both cases, although they never say anything, we get to see what they're thinking. In the end I think that both of them as characters are tied. But in terms of popularity, Chief wins.


<3 u.

[Edited on 11.27.2011 6:50 PM PST]

  • 11.27.2011 6:50 PM PDT