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Subject: Who's a better character? Master Chief or Noble 6

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

And honestly Juan, if you think CavemanBCE's threads are so bad and flawed, they are still around. Go ahead and try to destroy it. Shouldn't be too much of a problem for you.

  • 11.27.2011 6:50 PM PDT

That feeling when you work hard to express your view, and everyone ignores it.

  • 11.27.2011 6:50 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: Schulex
That feeling when you work hard to express your view, and everyone ignores it.


I saw it and I see your point. Give me tomorrow and I'll probably go more in-depth with it if you want.

  • 11.27.2011 6:52 PM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Amusingly enough, the only people who can't shut up and move on from these Reach arguments turned bad is... You Juen. You and a few others who feel the need to bash anybody who dares like something you do not.


This.

  • 11.27.2011 6:52 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Guy who doesn't likes Noble Team: Their characters were mediocre, poorly developed, and their existance brought a million plot holes to the Halo Universe. Personally, we would prefer if 343 Industries decided to erase them from the universe.

So here is the perfect reason to change that. But I suppose plugging your ears saying "NANANANANANA!" would be far easier?
Hey DecepticonCobra, great job at ignoring completely the point of that example, which was to represent how those who like Noble Team always using the (pathetic) excuse to bring Master Chief into the discussion, proving that they don't know anything about the Halo Universe by saying that he has no personality. Again, this coming from a guy who's favorite character is a great leader! A great leader who, despite being in a Pelican, couldn't warn his squad in time about the Scarab that was in front of them. You know, I would do exactly the same if he was my favorite character.

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Guy who likes Noble Team:: EVERYONE LOVES MASTER CHIEF AND HE IS HORRIBLY DEVELOPED BECAUSE HE HAS NO PERSONALITY >:( MOAR RAGE CUZ THE MAJORITY DOESN'T AGREES WITH MEHHH!!!

Seriously, this has to stop. They always bring the Chief to the discussion because they can't defend those mediocre Spartan-III otherwise. It's truly frustrating, main reason I had to take some of my time and explain carefully why the Chief has more personality and is far more developed. Too bad you simply decided to ignore my post.


Seems like CavemanBCE did a wonderful job defending Noble Team, but you ignore it because it does just that. That's your loss.
Irrelevant, I'm still pointing out how pathetic is that you guys bring Master Chief's character into that discussion. Unless, of course, you don't know how to properly quote. It's kinda of tricky, you know.

And he didn't do a great job in that post, it was just some random interpretation of Noble Team constantly removing their helmets, which was out of character for a Spartan soldier, especially in dangerous areas like New Alexandria. You see, that's why people love when games and movies are open to interpretation, there is no real answer, so in their lives, their opinion is the only possible answer, IT MAKES THEM FEEL INTELLIGENT. Too bad that Halo: Reach isn't open to interpretation, much less when there are novels and games that show perfectly how a soldier should behave.

In this case, everyone just saw a wall of text, it said something good about Noble Team, let's be lazy and just say he did a great job. Brilliant!

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
To be honest, the arguments from those who liked Reach are turning weaker and weaker. It's just a matter of time.

Not all that hurtful coming from the guy who has difficulty comprehending why Kat may feel useless and worry the rest of Noble would think the same after losing her arm.
Not all that hurtful... oh wait, I already said how bad of a leader was Carter.

I gave that example because I found extremely funny that the guy mentioned Kat and her arm, despite the fact that it had nothing to do with the Spartans removing their helmets, hell, I never even thought about that when I played the Campaign, probably because:

1. Her character is uninteresting.

2. Even though "they remove their helmets to show the bond between them", you are never allowed to see any sort of relationship or friendship in the game.

Although that could explain why she always killed me while driving in the second mission. Was this done on purpose? And they are Spartans for God's sake, why would she fear that they consider her useless? Was this ever brought into the game? NO! Not even a trivial comment about how much she sucks at shooting because of that prosthetic arm, nothing.

  • 11.27.2011 6:55 PM PDT

Juen, amusing that you ignore how some guys who dislike Noble Team posted positively in response to that topic about things they hadn't noticed.

  • 11.27.2011 7:01 PM PDT

Cmdr DeaFiron, amusing that, once again, you ignored my goddamn post.

Once again, I carefully explained why those who dislike Noble Team posted positively in that thread. It's just a wall of text where nothing really made sense, but again, if you write a wall of text, it automatically makes your argument important, main reason I never take DeceptionCobra seriously, oh wait, he actually writes "Juan", sorry about that. A common response in that thread could be:

1. Although I still dislike Noble Team, you raise some pretty good valid points, I'll have to think about it.

2. I still dislike Noble Team, but that wall of text makes you look intelligent, so I'll simply say good job.

3. I'VE SEEN THE LIGHT, NOBLE TEAM IS ACTUALLY DEVELOPED!

[Edited on 11.27.2011 7:07 PM PST]

  • 11.27.2011 7:06 PM PDT

"So- So this means Im just going to be miserable for the rest of time?!"

"No. This means that you have to live life to the fullest. You have one life, live it well. Make sure you die without regrets. Get a new life, new mate, new family. You, out of all people, don't deserve a terrible fate of misery like that. Having nothing to look forward to is good. It makes sure you want to keep on going. Living is a right, not a privilege."


Posted by: Schulex
That feeling when you work hard to express your view, and everyone ignores it.


that feeling when you express your feelings about that view and is ignored

check the last post on the previous page lol

  • 11.27.2011 7:07 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: Juan Teran

Hey DecepticonCobra,


Hey Juan.

great job at ignoring completely the point of that example, which was to represent how those who like Noble Team always using the (pathetic) excuse to bring Master Chief into the discussion, proving that they don't know anything about the Halo Universe by saying that he has no personality.

He really doesn't though. The only time I've ever felt he was true;y human was when he met Parisa.

Again, this coming from a guy who's favorite character is a great leader! A great leader who, despite being in a Pelican, couldn't warn his squad in time about the Scarab that was in front of them. You know, I would do exactly the same if he was my favorite character.

Do I detect a hint of growing nerdrage tinged with sarcasm in an attempt to mask said nerdrage? I think so. But yes, I do like Carter. As for not warning them, he did.

"Noble! You got a...situation."

What comes up then? The Scarab.

But I'm sure Chief is a far better leader. Remember when Chief rescued the Installation 04 survivors, which only initially amounted to him, Cortana, Locklear, Haverson, Johnson and Polaski, and immediately wanted to continue Operation: RED FLAG with just them? Good thing he was overruled, they would've all died.

Irrelevant, I'm still pointing out how pathetic is that you guys bring Master Chief's character into that discussion. Unless, of course, you don't know how to properly quote. It's kinda of tricky, you know.

Nope, I seem to get it quite fine. Have a mess up every know and then, but everyone does. But still, Chief lacks character development unless you bring in the books. Unless one liners are a testament to a good character.

And he didn't do a great job in that post, it was just some random interpretation of Noble Team constantly removing their helmets, which was out of character for a Spartan soldier, especially in dangerous areas like New Alexandria. You see, that's why people love when games and movies are open to interpretation, there is no real answer, so in their lives, their opinion is the only possible answer, IT MAKES THEM FEEL INTELLIGENT. Too bad that Halo: Reach isn't open to interpretation, much less when there are novels and games that show perfectly how a soldier should behave.

Because everyone in Halo followed the rules all the time. Was it out of character? I can see why it is. That said, perhaps they thought they had a secure position. War is uncertain.

In this case, everyone just saw a wall of text, it said something good about Noble Team, let's be lazy and just say he did a great job. Brilliant!

A wall of text you never argued against I might add. If it was so terrible, why didn't you say so? Throwing that out there.



Although that could explain why she always killed me while driving in the second mission. Was this done on purpose? And they are Spartans for God's sake, why would she fear that they consider her useless? Was this ever brought into the game? NO! Not even a trivial comment about how much she sucks at shooting because of that prosthetic arm, nothing.


You just used in-game AI as an argument, LOL.

  • 11.27.2011 7:08 PM PDT


Posted by: XB Fighter

Posted by: Schulex
That feeling when you work hard to express your view, and everyone ignores it.


that feeling when you express your feelings about that view and is ignored

check the last post on the previous page lol
0_0 *Did not see that*

  • 11.27.2011 7:13 PM PDT


Posted by: Juan Teran
Cmdr DeaFiron, amusing that, once again, you ignored my goddamn post.


Amusing that you also ignored my post prior to that one.

Also, I only typed it as Juen because it actually annoys you. That and until you stop being a jerk I see no reason to take the time to bother to spell it correctly.

I'll say this once, you can misspell my username all you want, and I don't give a -blam!-.

  • 11.27.2011 7:14 PM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: Juan Teran
Cmdr DeaFiron, amusing that, once again, you ignored my goddamn post.


Amusing that you also ignored my post prior to that one.

Also, I only typed it as Juen because it actually annoys you. That and until you stop being a jerk I see no reason to take the time to bother to spell it correctly.

I'll say this once, you can misspell my username all you want, and I don't give a -blam!-.


I just love people who ignore -blam!- when they're losing. Don't you? Lack of rebuttles and the name misspelling bit is really cool! EVERYBODY SHOULD TRY IT, I know you have Juen!

OT:I'll say it once and I'll say it again. Noble Six IMHO, why? Lone wolf vs Squad Leader, 'Nuff said.

[Edited on 11.27.2011 7:42 PM PST]

  • 11.27.2011 7:41 PM PDT

"So- So this means Im just going to be miserable for the rest of time?!"

"No. This means that you have to live life to the fullest. You have one life, live it well. Make sure you die without regrets. Get a new life, new mate, new family. You, out of all people, don't deserve a terrible fate of misery like that. Having nothing to look forward to is good. It makes sure you want to keep on going. Living is a right, not a privilege."


Posted by: Schulex

Posted by: XB Fighter

Posted by: Schulex
That feeling when you work hard to express your view, and everyone ignores it.


that feeling when you express your feelings about that view and is ignored

check the last post on the previous page lol
0_0 *Did not see that*


:3 lol jk. But yeah, good point.

  • 11.27.2011 8:11 PM PDT
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Posted by: Juan Teran
too bad that last mission includes the infamous Emile's death cutscene, which defies all logic.

Wait... what? Emile sat in the Mass Driver supporting you, he killed an Elite who was trying to assassinate him, and a split second after another Elite comes up behind him and sticks his sword through Emile's chest, but Emile still manages to kill the Elite before dieing. How does that defy logic again?

  • 11.27.2011 10:52 PM PDT

I can own you at any Halo game.

I am amazed with all of the comments, ty guys.

[Edited on 11.28.2011 10:28 AM PST]

  • 11.28.2011 10:25 AM PDT

I can own you at any Halo game.

For all of you who think this is a vs thread look at the first comment.

[Edited on 11.28.2011 11:39 AM PST]

  • 11.28.2011 11:34 AM PDT

I can own you at any Halo game.

Posted by: HipiO7
Posted by: mad117spartan
You have no reason to call this thread or any other thread stupid just because you dislike someone else's comment, all this is a is simple opinion thread, quit acting like a BLAM dude it's just not worth it.


orly? Look at the comments. This is not an opinion thread, this is a vs thread.

This thread is stupid as -blam!-, and it's like most of the garbage that has been popping up in this forum recently. These threads are the reason I almost never stop by here anymore. I used to be extremely active here. I'm starting to understand why Grey gets so pissed off at people that miss post here.

Blue Team vs Noble Team, Marine vs Elite, Master Chief vs Noble Six... and nothing but more vs threads all over the goddamn place. One after another. Most of them are repeats. I was cool with them at the start, but then so many showed up because they were hot topics guaranteed. The arguments used in them are idiotic and people post completely out of pure ignorance.

The thread that really annoyed me and got me pissed, was the Master Chief vs Noble Team thread. That thread was no doubt one the of the stupidest threads in existence on b.net. It was just mind numbing. There used to be great threads in this Forum, but they all get pushed down by stupid -blam!- threads like these. I am honestly sick and tired of repeated threads about the same thing.

/rant
Look at the first comment dude.

  • 11.28.2011 11:41 AM PDT

I HATE NOOBS

Im a elite so if if were the halo wars arbitur vs halo 3 arbitur I would answer so all I have to say is IMA FIRINNNNNN MYYYY LAZZERRRR

[Edited on 11.28.2011 1:08 PM PST]

  • 11.28.2011 1:04 PM PDT

Honestly, I like Noble 6 better, but there both pretty balanced.

  • 11.28.2011 3:52 PM PDT

Master Chief because of his overall experience on the field.

  • 11.28.2011 4:01 PM PDT
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This (and THIS) was for Reach...and/or Harvest


Posted by: XB Fighter
Don't you dare refer to the crap known as halo reach on the universe forum again. Even worse, you compared him to the chief. Master Chief in everyday. Off topic, but As far as I know, Reach was non canon.


Dude, whoa, just whoa, I do agree with you loyalty and general disgust with reach though, passionate about the cheif eh?
As for the topic...
Six isn't a character, it is trans-gender, unless all spartans can change sex at will, like frogs maybe, never-the-less six is NOT a person and/or a character in the universe as such cannot be compared with one that is eg: John. Also offering nothing whatsoever to the narrative besides nigh mono-syllabic murmerings.

So of course Cheif...

  • 11.28.2011 7:15 PM PDT