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Subject: The Halo rings kill Flood, right?
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: GhostLink2401
It seems that Halo is nondiscriminatory. Flood or food. But 343's "Tune to any target" line has me curious.

1. If Halo CAN discriminate targets, why didn't the Forerunners just do that.

2. How would he fire it, when he blatantly told John that Monitor-class AI can't activate rings?



The Tuning was a reference to cryptum.

1. because they probably couldn't filter out what was and was not infected due to the flood.

2This is where the he was a pissed off machine part comes into play.

  • 11.28.2011 2:16 PM PDT

Walk softly, and carry a big midget.

Well the Halo Rings kill the Flood's "food" (Sentient life capable of being infected). Now, seeing as the Flood use thier "Food" as thier bodies (Combat Form for example) then the Halo Ring would destroy the Flood.

So basically:

Human is Flood "Food"

Flood infects human

Halo Rings activated

Halo Rings destroy "Food"

Flood form is made from "Food", therefore it is destroyed.

That's how I always thought it worked anyway. My guess is that the Forerunners couldn't just kill the Flood because they took so many different forms and infected loads of different species, so they could not distiguish what was Flood and what wasn't so they had to kill everything.

  • 11.28.2011 2:41 PM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

I honestly don't even feel like repeating what the flood can and can not infect anymore.


Halo Kills "everything" because there was no way to be sure how far the infection spread.

  • 11.28.2011 2:43 PM PDT

It's hazy. I think originally when Halo was first conceived the rings were just supposed to destroy all sentient life capable of sustaining the Flood, and the idea was that they'd soon starve afterwards.

I know back when I joined this forum in 2008 and first started getting into the Halo universe, that was pretty much accepted fact the same way it was accepted that all the Forerunners were wiped out by the Halo event.

But more recently with 343i's new content, I think it's been made clear that the Halo rings also destroy the Flood. I honestly preferred the idea that the Flood were left devoid of all their food and then left to starve, just as I prefer the idea that all the Forerunners died rather than just left the galaxy.

The [Halo effect] strikes our
combined fleets
. All ships piloted
by biologicals are now [adrift].

I can trade Mendicant ship for ship
now
and still prevail.


~ Halo 3 terminal excerpt

This also implies that the Halo effect destroys anything biological; after the event, only Offensive Bias and Mendicant Bias are left to fight it out, fighting in the name of sides already dead. Furthermore that's under Bungie so it means that making the Flood susceptible to Halo wasn't just an oversight or retcon by 343i.

So I guess it's pretty conclusive that Halo does destroy the Flood too. That doesn't mean I like it.

  • 11.29.2011 8:11 AM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

It only destroys the infected and what can be infected.


Don't make it more complicated.

  • 11.29.2011 8:17 AM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

Actually, the Rings are basically useless in their function. They were designed to starve the Flood in order to ultimately kill them.

Didn't happen.

Nice try Forerunners.

  • 11.29.2011 8:20 AM PDT


Posted by: grey101
It only destroys the infected and what can be infected.


Don't make it more complicated.


Except Offensive Bias said all ships piloted by biologicals were adrift, and that he was just battling Mendicant after the Halo event. That implies that all the Flood were destroyed.

  • 11.29.2011 8:21 AM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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Posted by: grey101
It only destroys the infected and what can be infected.


Don't make it more complicated.


Except Offensive Bias said all ships piloted by biologicals were adrift, and that he was just battling Mendicant after the Halo event. That implies that all the Flood were destroyed.


Because all the ships had forerunners or infected on them.
The only form that isn't destroyed are the infection forms every other form gets wiped out.

We see this in the terminals,origins, and one of the recent art books confirmed that the last GM was killed by the array.

  • 11.29.2011 8:23 AM PDT

Plausible enough. I swear that in Origins everything was wiped away by the pulse, but maybe my memory's just hazy.

  • 11.29.2011 8:30 AM PDT

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Posted by: GhostLink2401
It seems that Halo is nondiscriminatory. Flood or food. But 343's "Tune to any target" line has me curious.

1. If Halo CAN discriminate targets, why didn't the Forerunners just do that.

2. How would he fire it, when he blatantly told John that Monitor-class AI can't activate rings?



The Tuning was a reference to cryptum.

1. because they probably couldn't filter out what was and was not infected due to the flood.

2This is where the he was a pissed off machine part comes into play.


Oh, cool. I should be getting Cryptum in the mail soon, so I bet a lot of the terminal info will make more sense after I read it.

  • 11.29.2011 8:36 AM PDT

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  • 11.29.2011 4:23 PM PDT

Hey, now!

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Posted by: Wolverfrog
Plausible enough. I swear that in Origins everything was wiped away by the pulse, but maybe my memory's just hazy.

That's probably just creative license, as well as for dramatic effect.

  • 11.29.2011 4:30 PM PDT

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Use the star flair for this?

i think it leaves only plants and bacteria and stuff of that nature. flood is a spore so it stays.

  • 11.29.2011 5:32 PM PDT

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Posted by: grey101
It only destroys the infected and what can be infected.


Don't make it more complicated.

why are we having a discussion on this considering it is a well known fact and ingrained in the universe for i do not know how long ago.

  • 11.29.2011 5:39 PM PDT

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I'm guessing that This is now a very fuzzy area, but I have just one question. Why did samples on the ring themselves Survive? The gravemind (Halo 2 edition) sure as hell Didn't die, so that rules out it only killing anything but spores. Why did the gravemind survive when aparrently nothing else did? This supprots my opinion that the Halo's effect has a minimum effective distance, and can't kill anything that's on or in it's imediate vicinity. Just like how the Chief escaped While 04b was firing.

  • 11.29.2011 6:01 PM PDT

Well I haven't read every post so this may have been stated, it doesn't actually kill flood. It kill neurons. So it will completely wipe out all the neurons in any body that has been hit by the ring. The flood are thus not affected by the rings. (maybe they don't have neurons I'm not completely sure to be honest) However, the flood take bodies by attacking the host's neurons. With all the neurons destroyed they have nothing to attach or eat and thus they starve.

  • 11.29.2011 6:22 PM PDT

I choose the name Spartan1337 when I couldn't think of anything better, not much else to say really... :/

Depends on where the Flood are, it they are near the Rings they get completely obliterated. The ones farther away from the rings Starve to death. But that is just my analysis from Halo Legends.

  • 11.29.2011 6:29 PM PDT

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It kills anything that can be considered sentient, including flood, that includes combat forms, graveminds, and any other flood that has infected a sufficiently intelligent life form. All the non-sentient flood that are left eventually starve.

  • 12.10.2011 1:34 AM PDT

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