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Subject: Wait until Halo 4 comes out, you'll all be complaining...

Don't worry, you're still your mom's favorite Bnet member.

I never complained about Halo CE.
I never complained about Halo 2.
I never complained about Halo 3.
I never complained about ODST.
I complained about Reach.

I'll reserve judgement of Halo 4 until I get the game.

  • 11.27.2011 6:27 PM PDT

When Halo 3 came out, everyone kept saying it was the worst Halo game. When Reach came out, everyone kept saying that this was the worst Halo game and praised Halo 3. Didn't you guys want Halo CE type of gameplay and that was exactly what they brought to you?

I've got 5 bucks on the table right now that says you all will hate Halo 4 and praise Halo Reach to death.


You may think that but you're just wrong. The answer to why people have complained since halo 3 is not simple, and a lot of people don't even know what exactly is bothering them when they complain, but I'll try to sum it up as much as I can.

The most common reasons are that many of the changes that bungie has made since halo 2 have eliminated aspects of fun and directly affected core concepts that made halo 2 such a great game. A couple of these concepts are the competitive nature of the game (mostly attributed to the level playing field in every game and the win/loss ratio required to rank up), and the multiplayer cooperation and strategy in the game no longer present in reach for reasons I won't elaborate on to avoid a too long post.

So when people get frustrated and complain, it is in most cases directly or indirectly because of these very tangible reasons, not just for the sake of complaining

[Edited on 11.27.2011 7:15 PM PST]

  • 11.27.2011 7:14 PM PDT

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Why so much discussion? I already summed up this thread on page one.

  • 11.27.2011 8:01 PM PDT


Posted by: Zdann
Reach doesn't play like CE.

If only it did....
if only...

  • 11.27.2011 8:05 PM PDT
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Posted by: C0rd0syl
Posted by: Iron Div is Pro
You see sir, you're wrong. Reach hasn't brought anything really amazing to the Halo name. What has it brought to Halo that is loved by the community? Nothing at all.


I haven't seen people complaining about the new Forge.
Also,we got Achievement Horse and Fails Of The Week but that isn't very Reach related.


New forge sucks. It has restrictions on what you can create and Play. MLG 4v4 arena maps have a $cap due to Forge world not being able to support its self. Via screen lag.

  • 11.27.2011 8:17 PM PDT

praise reach? even if halo 4 sucks most people aren't gunna praise reach.

  • 11.27.2011 11:52 PM PDT

"We live in a special time; the only time where we can observationally verify that we live in a very special time" - Lawrence Krauss.

I was a finalist :P

No matter what you make, no matter how good it may be, there will always be someone who hates it

People are going to complain about Halo 4. It is the Halo communities nature - in fact, its human nature. Whether or not they will compare it to Reach is another story. Some people will probably state that they want the "Reach" way in Halo 4, while others will still argue zealously on how such a bad game it was. Either way, you will ALWAYS have someone who will go out of their way to find something to complain about and, as a result, state that they hate the game.

Halo 4 will be a "bad" Halo game to a faction of the Halo community. Probably some people in this thread right now.

  • 11.28.2011 6:12 AM PDT

Halo is best game ever made. Bungie... You did it!

Halo 4 better have assasinations... I love them

  • 11.28.2011 6:35 AM PDT

Personally love all the halo games :p

  • 11.28.2011 7:05 AM PDT
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Everybody wants some.

People have complained about all the Halo games, then praised them when the new one comes out...but Reach might be an exception to the rule, just because of how radically different it is from the others. We'll just have to wait and see.

  • 11.28.2011 7:12 AM PDT

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Posted by: shadowknight566
When Halo 3 came out, everyone kept saying it was the worst Halo game.

^What the devils are you talking about?
Nobody ever said Halo 3 sucks, People still enjoy it more than they do with Reach (80% FACT)

2.The reason people said Reach sucks, because it took the 'Spirit ' out of Halo, Which 343i had to repair with Anniversary...

  • 11.28.2011 2:17 PM PDT

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Thus, the cycle begins once more until the next release.

  • 11.28.2011 2:24 PM PDT

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Posted by: SasukeFKay

Posted by: shadowknight566
When Halo 3 came out, everyone kept saying it was the worst Halo game.

^What the devils are you talking about?
Nobody ever said Halo 3 sucks, People still enjoy it more than they do with Reach (80% FACT)

2.The reason people said Reach sucks, because it took the 'Spirit ' out of Halo, Which 343i had to repair with Anniversary...


Note to self, when repairing the 'spirit' of the game, release some one elses work with your name on it, got ya.

  • 11.28.2011 2:24 PM PDT

ALOT of people complained about Halo 2. (Pre and Post patch)
A -blam!- ton of people complained about Halo 3. (Br spread, etc...)
75% of the people either left or complains about reach.
This is an on going problem. I feel if people don't pay attention to the forums they will enjoy the game a bit more. Ex: Before I was on the forums Halo 3 was a blast. Then when people started to talk about the broken things in the game I started to find excuses why I did bad in certain game- "This maps broken" "That gun is op" things like that.

TL;DR Embrace good things and try to overcome the bad.

  • 11.28.2011 2:25 PM PDT

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Posted by: Darknova24

he speaks the truth. I never EVER have heard any hate towards Halo 3. Halo 3 is balanced and pure amazingness.

Bull-blam!-!
The BR is random, that's why Bungie made the DMR.
Don't believe me?
People wonder why if the shoot a guy first, but they're the one who gets killed (just by missing the 2/3 shots with out them knowing)

But, you can argue the randomness of the Bloom.

  • 11.28.2011 2:26 PM PDT
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When the game is over, the king and pawn go into the same box

It's an endless cycle. And there are complaints about every game. To say differently is just absurd. People's opinions and preferences all differ.

  • 11.28.2011 2:29 PM PDT


Posted by: SasukeFKay

Posted by: Darknova24

he speaks the truth. I never EVER have heard any hate towards Halo 3. Halo 3 is balanced and pure amazingness.

Bull-blam!-!
The BR is random, that's why Bungie made the DMR.
Don't believe me?
People wonder why if the shoot a guy first, but they're the one who gets killed (just by missing the 2/3 shots with out them knowing)

But, you can argue the randomness of the Bloom.
The 3 round burst randomness was better than a single fire miss.

If I miss with the DMR, I miss 1:1. If I miss with the BR thats a lot slimmer chance than the DMR.

  • 11.28.2011 2:30 PM PDT
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  • 11.28.2011 2:40 PM PDT

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Posted by: HoleyMoley

Posted by: SasukeFKay

Posted by: Darknova24

he speaks the truth. I never EVER have heard any hate towards Halo 3. Halo 3 is balanced and pure amazingness.

Bull-blam!-!
The BR is random, that's why Bungie made the DMR.
Don't believe me?
People wonder why if the shoot a guy first, but they're the one who gets killed (just by missing the 2/3 shots with out them knowing)

But, you can argue the randomness of the Bloom.
The 3 round burst randomness was better than a single fire miss.

If I miss with the DMR, I miss 1:1. If I miss with the BR thats a lot slimmer chance than the DMR.


Don't forget the lack of hitscan for bullets. Not as accurate as you think for that thing.

  • 11.28.2011 2:43 PM PDT

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Posted by: HoleyMoley

The 3 round burst randomness was better than a single fire miss.

If I miss with the DMR, I miss 1:1. If I miss with the BR thats a lot slimmer chance than the DMR.

No its not, Now you're just jumping back to the point why they have Bloom and why its a single-shot.

For instance,
If it was You and Me in a DMR battle, if I miss at least 2 shots, I'll still have time to recover because of the Bloom(depending on accuratecy) and its single-shot. Unlike the BR(same story) except if I miss those 2/3 shots (depending on YOUR Accuratecy) then its a a 50/70 chance of that missed shot getting me killed.

  • 11.28.2011 2:46 PM PDT

Am i the only person who enjoys every single halo game and their respective differences?
TBH, i would never buy another installment in a series/franchise if they werent all tweaked or in some manner different from their predecessors.
I mean, whats the point of us (humanity) furthering our knowledge of game programming if all we focus on is aesthetics and how much more shiny the new game is, maintaining the idea that the gameplay itself should never change?

inb4 youre bad/synonyms; i just love halo and youre mad because of it.

  • 11.28.2011 2:55 PM PDT

thread summary

  • 11.28.2011 9:45 PM PDT


Posted by: Darknova24

Posted by: shadowknight566

Posted by: Darknova24
nope. 343i knows that Reach is bad and they will make Halo 4 more like halo 2/3


You are one of the people that will start to praise Reach after Halo 4 comes out.


no. reach is a garbage game .I hate AAs. I hate the slowness of it. I hate the casual feel and cartering bastards that made this game into a huge dissapointment. you sir, are wrong.

Halo 4 will either bring back the halo roots or fail miserably if it implants anything new that we haven't seen.


Are you saying that Halo 4 should not have anything new in it at all? New games are supposed to have new features. What would be the point of making a new game if it's no different from the last one?
Stop complaining and enjoy the game.

  • 11.28.2011 9:57 PM PDT