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Subject: Halo vs. Warhammer 40,000

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Posted by: FTW 1997

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Posted by: MAC Blast
super weapons can only attack a single solar system at once
Every weapon in the 40k universe is a super weapon. Should they just use their feet while you're at it? Actually, 40k would still win!

Without weapons ?
Lol in your dreams.
I'm just thinking about the martial skills of the various 40K races... Granted take ships out of the equation.

  • 12.15.2011 7:41 AM PDT

RIP Ginger

Spring 1997 - 6 January 2012


Posted by: FTW 1997
do they have gas masks ?

No, not all.

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Posted by: grey101

Posted by: FTW 1997

Posted by: FTW 1997
The flood can infect the nids....its the nature of flood...it infects everything it needs....

...Are you seriously judging the forerunners left the galaxy because an AI confused them to humans ?
I expected more from you.

When they where talking about ODST's and SM's they meant airborne way not combat (grey).


Even if spore infect slowely the nids...they still infect...a planet full of flood spores would easly infect any nid that lands there....instantly because the planet is filled with it...there is no place the nid can escape too...

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And this is why i call you an idiot because you have no idea whatsoever about what you are talking about.

The Tyranids are a combination of the Flood and Necromorphs. The Tyranids recycle genetic material and rehash it into whatever they need. They can infect anything, the floodsupercell is a baby to the nids.


And It has been established since halo 3 that the forerunners are still alive. IRIS,Terminals, encyclopedia, and even 343 (They imply) State they are alive.[/quote]
This is why i call you an idiot,because YOU have no idea whatsoever you are talking about.

The flood supercell is made to avoid such traps....and learn on its mistakes....it is intellegent.

Also you must have a bad memory...since i already told you thousands of times that they ARE alive and we both agreed about that...The only thing im against is that you tried to prove it via 343 confusing MC with forerunners.[/quote]


Give me a source saying that about the FSC because last time i checked we don't know the reasoning behind why it was made. So Source your everything you just said is discredited.

They Flood aren't able to infect space marines, why would you think they could infect Nids (who can infect space marines).


No, i proved 343 confusing chief with the Didact. Nothing about forerunners or them being alive, that was the other imbecile trying to talk too much at once.


Give me a source the tyranids can even infect ? Last time i played the game ....they kill,turn into mass from which they make new tyranids....that isnt infecting...
Means they cant even infect SM's...proving your knowledge not better than mine.

Give me a source that the SM cant get infected by flood ? they are humans...meaning a host for flood.

Sorry about the forreruners being alive blame.


When did you go an buy Warhmamer? because at the start of this you never heard of warhammer.

Ignore the space marine part, i am getting Genestealers confused with something irrelevant.


FTW stop running around, I asked for a source about the FSC since you have knowledge about it that i haven't seen yet. And we stated pages ago that Space marines couldn't get infected to due their augmentations.


Seriously how much stupid can this get ?
How can i provide you a source when these are two different universes i cannot provide a accurate source and niether can you...You cant prove that the flood cant infect nid cant you ?
So get over with your source jokes...not cool.

  • 12.15.2011 8:08 AM PDT
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I found something that might help with this "source thing"...



An important capability essential to the Flood's survival is its ability to convert other life forms into more Flood cells, which can be used in a wide variety of ways. The Flood Super Cells capture and interface with the host's cells, which are quickly metabolized, broken down, analyzed, and reassembled into more Flood Cells that mirror the function of the target's cells.[2] This process is rapid and continuous, with the end result being that the host's biomass is largely overtaken by the newly-generated Flood biomass.[3]

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We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: FTW 1997

The flood supercell is made to avoid such traps....and learn on its mistakes....it is intellegent.


Posted by: FTW 1997

Seriously how much stupid can this get ?
How can i provide you a source when these are two different universes i cannot provide a accurate source and niether can you...You cant prove that the flood cant infect nid cant you ?
So get over with your source jokes...not cool.



I want a source for the top.

"How much stupid"? Wow. You say you have the warhammer games (Though the tabletop would be a better lie) so you should have no trouble providing examples. Though i find it funny that you have the game but don't know the space marines wear masks. Which is further interesting because i doubt you honestly know anything about the Tyranids.

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I have the game... it is written in my XBL id if its that much easier to tell me thousand of times that i dont have the game instead of just looking once in my xbl...then all i have to say is amazing...

So what ? since i have the game(1) i can say if game's(2) parasite can infect a parasite in game (1)?

Also most of my knowledge is from internet wikipedia and lexicanum please dont tell me that wiki has no source...because its clearly written on the lowest part of the page...

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Posted by: grey101

Posted by: FTW 1997

The flood supercell is made to avoid such traps....and learn on its mistakes....it is intellegent.


Posted by: FTW 1997

Seriously how much stupid can this get ?
How can i provide you a source when these are two different universes i cannot provide a accurate source and niether can you...You cant prove that the flood cant infect nid cant you ?
So get over with your source jokes...not cool.



I want a source for the top.



The Flood Super Cell is often described as "thinking muscle", and closely resembles both neurons and glial cells in terms of its physical structure.[1]

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: FTW 1997


The flood supercell is made to avoid such traps....and learn on its mistakes....it is intellegent.[/quote]

Posted by: FTW 1997

Seriously how much stupid can this get ?
How can i provide you a source when these are two different universes i cannot provide a accurate source and niether can you...You cant prove that the flood cant infect nid cant you ?
So get over with your source jokes...not cool.[/quote]


I want a source for the top.



The Flood Super Cell is often described as "thinking muscle", and closely resembles both neurons and glial cells in terms of its physical structure.[1]


Do you even comprehend what that means? The cell itself isn't "smart" the flood can just alter biomass into whatever they need. If they need fins they will grow fins.

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Posted by: grey101

Posted by: FTW 1997


The flood supercell is made to avoid such traps....and learn on its mistakes....it is intellegent.[/quote]

Posted by: FTW 1997

Seriously how much stupid can this get ?
How can i provide you a source when these are two different universes i cannot provide a accurate source and niether can you...You cant prove that the flood cant infect nid cant you ?
So get over with your source jokes...not cool.[/quote]


I want a source for the top.



The Flood Super Cell is often described as "thinking muscle", and closely resembles both neurons and glial cells in terms of its physical structure.[1]


Do you even comprehend what that means? The cell itself isn't "smart" the flood can just alter biomass into whatever they need. If they need fins they will grow fins.


This means that they would overcome any traps they get from nids immune system...

If the nids evolve immunity against FSC then the FSC would overcome it...if nids immune system makes anti body for FSC then the FSC would make bodies for the anti bodies...(sorry im not good at biology,virology etc.).
Anyway the FSC would overcome the nids.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

you do understand that the biggest flaw is the fact there are things the flood can't infect, not to mention humanity made a cure which the flood wasn't immune to.

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Posted by: grey101
you do understand that the biggest flaw is the fact there are things the flood can't infect, not to mention humanity made a cure which the flood wasn't immune to.



Which the flood then returned being even stronger ?

And why cant the flood infect ?

[Edited on 12.15.2011 9:03 AM PST]

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We should know better, because we are better.


Posted by: grey101
you do understand that the biggest flaw is the fact there are things the flood can't infect, not to mention humanity made a cure which the flood wasn't immune to.


In that aspect the Tyranids are superior. They can create all manner of biological weapons and creatures in a short span of time. IIRC, a Marine battle barge attacked a Hive Fleet with a virus bomb. Some time later the same hive fleet deployed a similar weapon against the Imperium. It is possible that a fleet could engineer a counter virus that can overcome the FSC just like ancient humanity.

Another thing, the WH40k games are dubious canon wise. The Blood Ravens were originally non canon until they were listed as a Chapter in the Codex. Space Marine (the game) takes place in an alternate reality where Titus not Sicarus is the Second Captain. Graia still exists and the other characters too but Titus was probably killed in some other conflict in the main universe much earlier.

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Posted by: Xd00999

Posted by: grey101
you do understand that the biggest flaw is the fact there are things the flood can't infect, not to mention humanity made a cure which the flood wasn't immune to.


It is possible that a fleet could engineer a counter virus that can overcome the FSC just like ancient humanity.


Quite possible in this case...but the FSC would just overcome it and become stronger just like in Ancient humanity war...

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: FTW 1997

Posted by: Xd00999

Posted by: grey101
you do understand that the biggest flaw is the fact there are things the flood can't infect, not to mention humanity made a cure which the flood wasn't immune to.


It is possible that a fleet could engineer a counter virus that can overcome the FSC just like ancient humanity.


Quite possible in this case...but the FSC would just overcome it and become stronger just like in Ancient humanity war...


The flood didn't adapt to the cure hence them going into hiding. The more we state that the flood wouldn't infect the nids the more you keeping forcing nonexistent loopholes in saying they would.

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Fine...then why did they come back to the forerunners or even survive ?
The cure was made to kill the flood once infecting...so they stopped it from infecting...it went into hiding and then comes back with strong power ?
Explain that ?

  • 12.15.2011 9:22 AM PDT


Posted by: FTW 1997

Posted by: Xd00999

Posted by: grey101
you do understand that the biggest flaw is the fact there are things the flood can't infect, not to mention humanity made a cure which the flood wasn't immune to.


It is possible that a fleet could engineer a counter virus that can overcome the FSC just like ancient humanity.


Quite possible in this case...but the FSC would just overcome it and become stronger just like in Ancient humanity war...


So, Tyranids adapt and become immune to flood infection, and magically the flood go and infect them?

IIRC, The group of flood that attacked the forerunners was not the same as the ones humanity defeated.

edit: I'd actually Describe the Tyranids as the older, far stronger brother of the Zerg. Or the father of the zerg.

[Edited on 12.15.2011 9:43 AM PST]

  • 12.15.2011 9:41 AM PDT

Warhammer its cool but its like overkill sometimes. Halo is not realistic and neither is warhammer just that warhammer is to much unrealistic..

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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Posted by: FTW 1997
Fine...then why did they come back to the forerunners or even survive ?
The cure was made to kill the flood once infecting...so they stopped it from infecting...it went into hiding and then comes back with strong power ?
Explain that ?


I shouldn't have to explain anything if you read the book. The flood started showing up on worlds the forerunners resettled and at the same time a group appeared from outside the galaxy. They are stronger because something happened in the 10,000 years they were away.

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Posted by: grey101

Posted by: FTW 1997
Fine...then why did they come back to the forerunners or even survive ?
The cure was made to kill the flood once infecting...so they stopped it from infecting...it went into hiding and then comes back with strong power ?
Explain that ?


I shouldn't have to explain anything if you read the book. The flood started showing up on worlds the forerunners resettled and at the same time a group appeared from outside the galaxy. They are stronger because something happened in the 10,000 years they were away.

Can you kindly state at what page of cryptum does it state that the flood came from outside the galaxy ?

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Posted by: FTW 1997

Posted by: Xd00999

Posted by: grey101
you do understand that the biggest flaw is the fact there are things the flood can't infect, not to mention humanity made a cure which the flood wasn't immune to.


It is possible that a fleet could engineer a counter virus that can overcome the FSC just like ancient humanity.


Quite possible in this case...but the FSC would just overcome it and become stronger just like in Ancient humanity war...


So, Tyranids adapt and become immune to flood infection, and magically the flood go and infect them?

IIRC, The group of flood that attacked the forerunners was not the same as the ones humanity defeated.

edit: I'd actually Describe the Tyranids as the older, far stronger brother of the Zerg. Or the father of the zerg.

Not magically....they adapt to it with time....

Im sorry this might sound offensive but can you give me a source that it isnt the one that faught AHE ?

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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: FTW 1997

Posted by: Xd00999

Posted by: grey101
you do understand that the biggest flaw is the fact there are things the flood can't infect, not to mention humanity made a cure which the flood wasn't immune to.


It is possible that a fleet could engineer a counter virus that can overcome the FSC just like ancient humanity.


Quite possible in this case...but the FSC would just overcome it and become stronger just like in Ancient humanity war...


So, Tyranids adapt and become immune to flood infection, and magically the flood go and infect them?

IIRC, The group of flood that attacked the forerunners was not the same as the ones humanity defeated.

edit: I'd actually Describe the Tyranids as the older, far stronger brother of the Zerg. Or the father of the zerg.

Do you think the zerg can win flood in a battle ?
Im just asking i barely know anything about it.

[Edited on 12.15.2011 9:52 AM PST]

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: FTW 1997

Posted by: grey101

Posted by: FTW 1997
Fine...then why did they come back to the forerunners or even survive ?
The cure was made to kill the flood once infecting...so they stopped it from infecting...it went into hiding and then comes back with strong power ?
Explain that ?


I shouldn't have to explain anything if you read the book. The flood started showing up on worlds the forerunners resettled and at the same time a group appeared from outside the galaxy. They are stronger because something happened in the 10,000 years they were away.

Can you kindly state at what page of cryptum does it state that the flood came from outside the galaxy ?


Your kidding me.

  • 12.15.2011 10:00 AM PDT


Posted by: FTW 1997
Not magically....they adapt to it with time....

Im sorry this might sound offensive but can you give me a source that it isnt the one that faught AHE ?


Um AHE = what?

Also, the Tyranids evolve themselves with every battle. The stronger an enemy fights, the stronger they arrive at the next planet. So if they break down some flood biomass, adapt to the cell and become immune to the infection (Btw, do Tyranids have complete spines/nervous systems?) how would the flood be able to do it?

We've never seen the flood change how it works.

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Posted by: FTW 1997
Not magically....they adapt to it with time....

Im sorry this might sound offensive but can you give me a source that it isnt the one that faught AHE ?


Um AHE = what?

Also, the Tyranids evolve themselves with every battle. The stronger an enemy fights, the stronger they arrive at the next planet. So if they break down some flood biomass, adapt to the cell and become immune to the infection (Btw, do Tyranids have complete spines/nervous systems?) how would the flood be able to do it?

We've never seen the flood change how it works.
I think it means Ancient Human Empire or something.

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Posted by: FTW 1997

Posted by: grey101
you do understand that the biggest flaw is the fact there are things the flood can't infect, not to mention humanity made a cure which the flood wasn't immune to.



Which the flood then returned being even stronger ?

And why cant the flood infect ?


Because Warhammer 40K has Necrons, which are the souls of an ancient species trapped in metal bodies, and Daemons, which are not native to the material universe, thus being unable to be infected

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