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Subject: Halo vs. Warhammer 40,000

I'm the cult of personality,
I call it like i see it, if i feel the need to be blunt and to the point, then i will, if i feel the need to be very detailed, i will, im here to stay and im here to do things my way, if you respect that or not is your choice, not mine,
and don't worry, while i don't agree with everyone's opinion, i do respect everyone's opinion.

many people have said this in similar threads so i will say it here,
halo has the flood, and we all know the only way to kill the flood is to kill its food supply,

the flood alone would win

that's my opinion.

[Edited on 11.28.2011 1:14 PM PST]

  • 11.28.2011 1:13 PM PDT

I'm the cult of personality,
I call it like i see it, if i feel the need to be blunt and to the point, then i will, if i feel the need to be very detailed, i will, im here to stay and im here to do things my way, if you respect that or not is your choice, not mine,
and don't worry, while i don't agree with everyone's opinion, i do respect everyone's opinion.


Posted by: grey101

Posted by: FTW 1997
A forerunner security guard not a torpedo can destroy a whole planet...
The forerunners if given time (which they can afford at any scale) can build halo's...infact they could destroy alot of galaxies at one time....If they build enough halo's.
The precursors where much advanced that forerunners...heck their buildings were so strong that the forerunners couldnt destroy....lol the precursors would wtflulzpwn the whole space and pwn everyone.

The covenant would pwn the imperium....
Seriously....no -blam!- can pwn flood....This argument has been faught a hundred times and the only foe the flood would not win on is tyranids....in this case its a draw....
Ofcourse a spartan warrior as stated in other arguments would get pwnt by a SM but....no other person actually took attention that the spartans have at least 10X the normal human reaction...it means in real life.....No bullet would hit a spartan....he would just overcome it....Especially a bullet that is the size of a big can (Bolters bullet)...
And seriously....This is Halo forums....And halo is losing ?!?
Shame on all halo fans that voted against the facts.


I don't care what happens to me after this.


You are the biggest idiot on this entire forum. Everybody knows that warhammer is the most over the top universe ever. Space marines would kill spartans in their dreams not to mention the armies are in the trillions.


You honestly have no idea what you are talking about and should just stop. Xd is going to have a field day after he sees this.
who......in the blue Hell do you think you are?

your calling him an idiot for simply stating his opinion and you act like what you say is fact?
and your calling *him* an idiot?

seriously, learn to accept this fact, everyone has the right to express there opinion and none of these opinions are fact and all are equal to each other,
that said, that doesn't mean ya have to be an Ass to someone who's just stating his opinion, flaming someone and making random assumptions will get you nowhere.

[Edited on 11.28.2011 1:32 PM PST]

  • 11.28.2011 1:31 PM PDT


Posted by: Insane AlphaBeta
many people have said this in similar threads so i will say it here,
halo has the flood, and we all know the only way to kill the flood is to kill its food supply,

the flood alone would win

that's my opinion.


Tyranids. Nuff said.

  • 11.28.2011 1:48 PM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

Posted by: Insane AlphaBeta
many people have said this in similar threads so i will say it here,
halo has the flood, and we all know the only way to kill the flood is to kill its food supply,

the flood alone would win

that's my opinion.

False. That's the most practical way, and, as we've seen in the series, it doesn't even work.

[Edited on 11.28.2011 1:52 PM PST]

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: Insane AlphaBeta

Posted by: grey101

Posted by: FTW 1997
A forerunner security guard not a torpedo can destroy a whole planet...
The forerunners if given time (which they can afford at any scale) can build halo's...infact they could destroy alot of galaxies at one time....If they build enough halo's.
The precursors where much advanced that forerunners...heck their buildings were so strong that the forerunners couldnt destroy....lol the precursors would wtflulzpwn the whole space and pwn everyone.

The covenant would pwn the imperium....
Seriously....no -blam!- can pwn flood....This argument has been faught a hundred times and the only foe the flood would not win on is tyranids....in this case its a draw....
Ofcourse a spartan warrior as stated in other arguments would get pwnt by a SM but....no other person actually took attention that the spartans have at least 10X the normal human reaction...it means in real life.....No bullet would hit a spartan....he would just overcome it....Especially a bullet that is the size of a big can (Bolters bullet)...
And seriously....This is Halo forums....And halo is losing ?!?
Shame on all halo fans that voted against the facts.


I don't care what happens to me after this.


You are the biggest idiot on this entire forum. Everybody knows that warhammer is the most over the top universe ever. Space marines would kill spartans in their dreams not to mention the armies are in the trillions.


You honestly have no idea what you are talking about and should just stop. Xd is going to have a field day after he sees this.
who......in the blue Hell do you think you are?

your calling him an idiot for simply stating his opinion and you act like what you say is fact?
and your calling *him* an idiot?

seriously, learn to accept this fact, everyone has the right to express there opinion and none of these opinions are fact and all are equal to each other,
that said, that doesn't mean ya have to be an Ass to someone who's just stating his opinion, flaming someone and making random assumptions will get you nowhere.


I didn't know hell had colors.

Just because you are entitled to an opinion doesn't mean that it can be a stupid and uneducated one. What he said wasn't even an opinion.


It is one thing to say "I think Halo would beat warhammer" and leave it at that. He just went all out saying that warhammer will get crushed by halo in which we reacted.

And i could pull the same cop out on you. My statement is merely an opinion on his opinion which (by your logic) you should respect no matter how foolish it is.

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Do not waste your tears, I was not born to watch the world grow dim. Life is not measured in years, but by the deeds of men.

Posted by: goldhawk
We should know better, because we are better.

I will focus on the Necron Empire.
At their height ( and the OP specifically stated everyone is at their height) they ruled the Galaxy just like the Forerunners. They have millions of Tomb Worlds which puts their size at roughly the same as the Forerunners. Every weapon rips targets apart molecule by molecule, therefore the best defense is thicker armor. From what we have seen, Forerunner Combat skins are not that bulky but rather like regular clothes. This means Gauss weapons would rip through them easily.
Secondly their armed force. The Necron navy is the best in the galaxy. 4 light Necron ships breezed past all the defenses and landed on Mars. The Necrons are the only non-human force to land on Mars. Even the lightest ships could breeze past the Imperium's greatest defenses.

The Diviner. The Diviner is a Nexron Cryptek who can predict the future. He predicted the Fall of the Eldar, the Horus Heresy, the Tyranids' arrival, and several other major events 65 million years in advance. If an event does not go according to plan, he can always go back in time and rewrite history.

There are many more reasons but I only feel like posting those.

  • 11.28.2011 1:55 PM PDT

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The Necrons had the Aeonic Orb, as well as the C'tan who are depicted as more or less the gods the material universe who could only be countered by warp powers.

I'll try to find the Nurgle statement, but I found it in an Uriel Ventris novel. I don't have the novel, since I read it while in a Barnes & Noble. Since I don't have the exact location of it, then let's just ignore it for now.

But what I mean to say is that most races can, as a pool of their collective subconsciousnesses, create major warp entities, not just Chaos Gods. I mean, I suppose it is possible that the Forerunners are purely entities of the Material Realm, like the C'tan, but this makes them especially vulnerable to warp powers, much as how the C'tan were especially vulnerable because of their status of being purely of the Material Realm

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


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Posted by: grey101
What he said wasn't even an opinion.


Wrong. It was obviously FTW's bloody opinion, it was his view on the subject.

Posted by: grey101
It is one thing to say "I think Halo would beat warhammer" and leave it at that. He just went all out saying that warhammer will get crushed by halo in which we reacted.


There's no need for FTW to have to write "I think" behind every point he makes. Views on this topic are entirely subjective so naturally any conclusion reached by any person is what they think and hence their opinion.

and in this case going "all out" as you put it, is just more of an extreme opinion.

and try to be nicer to people, even if you find their differing views so outrageous that you feel the irresistible urge to insult them. Otherwise, you're coming off as a very unpleasant person.

Heck, this is just one of those "vs threads" like the star wars one. It deserves to get locked.


You can't tell me i am "wrong" for having an opinion on an opinion. See how annoying that can be?


The problem with Vs threads is that they are filled with people posting their opinion without nothing anything on any universe.

If clear scenarios were given instead of "This Entire universe vs this universe" then we would be getting somewhere. Plus the concept of even asking is stupid if people can't accept that halo would lose.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

The mods have said several times that Vs threads are fine and that the flaw is what i have already stated.

And what i said is my personal viewpoint on what he said thus it is an opinion.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

Because what he said was an idiotic statement that isn't true.


And i have used the word "moron" once and it wasn't on FTW; i use the word idiot specifically for a reason. Though i am starting to wonder if you even understand what the word means or the context being used...idiot.

  • 11.28.2011 3:20 PM PDT
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"but you already knew that, I mean, how couldn't you?

Only when no Human brick is left atop another, shall we be satisfied with your destruction.

Settle down gentlemen, I don't have time to post a response to xd and rst at the moment but I'd like to, so please don't get the thread locked before tomorrow evening.

If someones says something stupid, it's reasonable to point it out, no need to get all worked up about it though. If they repeatedly make silly claims... well, maybe worth making a little fuss to get them to notice..

When all's said and done, sometimes people are wrong, it happens. If you don't like being proved wrong then either don't take part or grow a thicker skin :)

  • 11.28.2011 4:03 PM PDT

Weapon of Oppression

*sigh*
I love it when kids argue. It reminds me of when I was a young whippersnapper.

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Posted by: goldhawk
We should know better, because we are better.

Another thing to say: several of you suggest that the Forerunners just go and nova Sol. That is assuming the know where Sol is and are able to get past it's defenses. If we assume the Forerunners know the location of the most important planet in the galaxy even though the two universes are completely separate and they should have no knowledge of it's location, we should assume the Warhammer forces likewise know where some key planets are.

If not, the Necrons can always use the Celestial Orrey and destroy half the Milky Way. The Celestial Orrey is a hollow Tomb World that contains a map of the entire galaxy. Destroy a star(s) on the map and the corresponding star(s) in realspace will go supernova. The Necrons don't even have to be there to destroy Forerunner worlds.

About Imperium tech, Elder Bias did me a favor at one time and calculated that Imperial Lance Batteries (standard ship board weapon, weaker than a Nova Cannon) fire power was in the range of high terratonnes / low petatonnes. A mid-sized Imperial warship is said to be capable of stripping an area "down to it's mantle" and there are many references to Imperial broadsides being "continent cracking".

And the Tyranids would win through sheer numbers alone. A White Dwarf article states that the Tyranids are responsible for the destruction of thousands of galaxies and are responsible for the extinction of millions of species. This is much more than the single galaxy the Flood were able to consume.

  • 11.28.2011 4:26 PM PDT

yas334229812

i do not know much but from what i see 40k

  • 11.28.2011 5:18 PM PDT

yas334229812

lets stop fighting and just go back to topic.

  • 11.28.2011 5:20 PM PDT

Why are you here?

I don't really know, but Prometheans under Didact's command would be tough to defeat. And we don't even know everything the Forerunners have to offer yet.

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No offense, but warhammer is a stupid game...Look at it yourself:It has magic,gods that feed on feelings,super advanced species that can detonate a star without even visiting it once and still being defeated by some other species,an empire that has super tech that can pwn everyone and marines that shoot 20 cm bullets and still struggle to some cavemen "orks".

Ofcourse the game play might be good (it is i tried it) but the story is like the arms race....I have the biggest gun so im the coolest.Has anyone noticed the warhammer 40k game has everything big ?
Big marines,Big weapons,Big ships,Strong infection forums,Huge numbers of species and their count and the ability to pwn everyone (if what is said is true,then it can destroy any universe i know)

In-fact i feel shame that someone compared that game to halo.

I agree the vs threads have no place here.
This forum is made for halo cannon discussions.
And contains many stupid things.
By the way can someone do this to grey ?
Its my opinion and you have no right to insult me.
If you say thats its your opinion, then its my opinion to insult you....Then i would just say that your stupid,stubborn and rude.
You never try to hear others and always refer to your self as "smartass"...Seriously what kind of a normal person acts like that ? Only stupid stubborn idiots like you...Thats my opinion.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

FTW you aren't even old enough to be on this forum so you should honestly stop whining and just accept that you are wrong.

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Posted by: chotato
smart, interesting, seems out of place.


Official fan of Assassin's Creed, Call of Duty, (Problem with that?) Halo, and Bungie, also a total gaming junkie.

I love how people underestimate the Flood. If there is even a single spore on a planet, no matter what 40k does, that world is doomed. Imagine Flood-filled Longswords and Seraphs crashing into planets, going too fast for any defenses. You can't stop the Flood. They scratch you, you're screwed. They bite you, you're screwed. They get an Infection form close enough to you, you're screwed. And don't underestimate the UNSC at full might. They have all of their fleets at full power, about 1000 Spartan IIIs, access to Covenant technology, and all of their Spartan IIs, not to mention NOVA bombs. If Halo tried REALLY, REALLY, REALLY hard, they could possibly win.

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Posted by: Ktan Dantaktee
I love how people underestimate the Flood. If there is even a single spore on a planet, no matter what 40k does, that world is doomed. Imagine Flood-filled Longswords and Seraphs crashing into planets, going too fast for any defenses. You can't stop the Flood. They scratch you, you're screwed. They bite you, you're screwed. They get an Infection form close enough to you, you're screwed. And don't underestimate the UNSC at full might. They have all of their fleets at full power, about 1000 Spartan IIIs, access to Covenant technology, and all of their Spartan IIs, not to mention NOVA bombs. If Halo tried REALLY, REALLY, REALLY hard, they could possibly win.



Other than the fact in warhammer's overpowered universe the flood are nothing. Bring the flood into warhammer and they won't even waste time laughing. Bring the Nids into halo and everything is done for.

  • 11.29.2011 6:28 AM PDT


Posted by: grey101

Posted by: Ktan Dantaktee
I love how people underestimate the Flood. If there is even a single spore on a planet, no matter what 40k does, that world is doomed. Imagine Flood-filled Longswords and Seraphs crashing into planets, going too fast for any defenses. You can't stop the Flood. They scratch you, you're screwed. They bite you, you're screwed. They get an Infection form close enough to you, you're screwed. And don't underestimate the UNSC at full might. They have all of their fleets at full power, about 1000 Spartan IIIs, access to Covenant technology, and all of their Spartan IIs, not to mention NOVA bombs. If Halo tried REALLY, REALLY, REALLY hard, they could possibly win.



Other than the fact in warhammer's overpowered universe the flood are nothing. Bring the flood into warhammer and they won't even waste time laughing. Bring the Nids into halo and everything is done for.


And seeing how Warhammer has destroyed planets for less...

+ the question if infection forms can even infect a Space Marine.

All the Spartans in the world can't compare to the many Space Marine legions, each numbering what... 1000? Then the Imperial Guard, Sisters of Battle...

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Posted by: grey101
FTW you aren't even old enough to be on this forum so you should honestly stop whining and just accept that you are wrong.

Who said that ?
Im not living in the Us nor in Uk...So the age limitations dont apply.

  • 11.29.2011 6:41 AM PDT