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Subject: Halo vs. Warhammer 40,000

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

Posted by: Ktan Dantaktee
First of all, that ship crashing was a desperate attempt,

More excuses. Shouldn't matter if a single spore could supposedly destroy a species.
had the Gravemind gotten enough time to come up with a strategy and use his more powerful Flood forms, Earth would be completely under Flood control.
What more powerful Flood forms? More powerful than the pure Flood forms? Like what? And what could be more effective than sending an entire Covenant ship filled to the brim with Flood?
He didn't anticipate that 2/3 of Earth's army would be in that exact area,
You don't know that. In fact, the slipspace drives on Covenant ships are extremely precise. It's more probable that he sent them to that exact spot in order to assault and distract their forces. After all, his main objective wasn't Earth.
he didn't expect for the Sangheili to show up, and he didn't have powerful enough Combat Forms to take Voi.
Again, it's more probable that he fully expected that and what more powerful forms are you suggesting than Pure forms?
I'm talking about the Flood that fought the Forerunners and nearly won, the Flood that could rip tanks apart, the Flood that could bring battleships out of the sky.
He used the most powerful forms that were established in the canon at the time and he didn't take Earth. And again I point you towards the original comment, which is not even dealing with numbers of Flood, but a single Spore. Even a larger scale infestation was contained, completely refuting the single Spore statement.

Secondly, still talking about full-power Flood. Full power Flood would have taken High Charity in about 1-2 days.
That's certainly a strong theoretical assertion. But then you can say this and that "would have," done whatever in retrospect. No more powerful Flood forms existed at the time though, so tough -blam!- bro.

And of course what dictates from where everyone is starting? This only works if we're starting the Flood at a point where they've already gotten ahold of a whole lot of biomass, which would have to have come from the Haloverse.

  • 11.30.2011 5:05 AM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


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Posted by: FTW 1997

Posted by: dahuterschuter
Posted by: Ktan Dantaktee
I love how people underestimate the Flood. If there is even a single spore on a planet, no matter what 40k does, that world is doomed.

Halo 3. Floodgate. It begs to differ.

They were ready for it.
And they glassed the whole city almost instantly.



How the hell were they ready for the random ship that left slipspace and crashed in the city? And do you understand what the word instantly means?


I am aware of the "almost" but since they glassed it after a firefight to the ship it was anything but "instant".
Warhammer has viruses that can infect planets in minutes not to mention i believe the Nids can infect an entire planet in days. It took about a month for HC to be fully infected.



First of all, that ship crashing was a desperate attempt, had the Gravemind gotten enough time to come up with a strategy and use his more powerful Flood forms, Earth would be completely under Flood control. He didn't anticipate that 2/3 of Earth's army would be in that exact area, he didn't expect for the Sangheili to show up, and he didn't have powerful enough Combat Forms to take Voi. I'm talking about the Flood that fought the Forerunners and nearly won, the Flood that could rip tanks apart, the Flood that could bring battleships out of the sky.


Secondly, still talking about full-power Flood. Full power Flood would have taken High Charity in about 1-2 days.



1. what source do you have that it was a "desperate attempt"? because in halo evolutions the gravemind lets cortana get ahold of that ship to get her message through. He really didn't care about it.


2.He had an entire month to think of a plan. More excuses.


3 .What forms do you know of that are stronger than pure forms?


4. Source that 2/3 of earth's army was there because last time i checked halo 3 was navy. So despite infecting all of high charity he couldn't assume that some elites might be there? Wow, the GM is more dumb than i though.


5. Combat forms don't infect thus that excuses is invalid like all the others.

6. We are fighting the same flood they did just on a lower scale. Source that they could rip apart tanks and bring ships out of the sky.


7. source that with "full power" it would take them 2 days (which it wouldn't) to infect something large as high charity.



Not a single thing you have given is a valid reason nor does it have a source for it. So you are just making up excuses mixed with your own fantasies about the flood.

  • 11.30.2011 5:30 AM PDT

Anyone who says Halo doesn't know the 40k Universe enough. Sure, race - race some of Halo's races might have a chance, but combined 40k will roflstomp anything Halo can throw at it.

I want to clear something up, too. There's a reason that the Tau have no Chaos God; their race lacks any psychic power whatsoever.

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1.Grey no offense but yes it was a desperate attempt to infect the main world of the reclaimers and almost destroying a whole enemy at once.

3.yes he did have a whole month but he had problems like escaping quarantine...and he couldve infested high charity in a matter of hours....He infest the halo 04 in a few days i reckon...By the game that is...book also.....

4:he did expect that shanghelli are there but i dont think he would expect that they would glass the place.

5:cant argue with that .....But i thought once the body is dead....any single tissue of any flood form would infect the wound and be able to infect the body..

6:Well the lower scale and i think that the forerunner infected bodies where much more stronger and faster.


7:During the forerunner flood war it stated in one of the terminals that the flood would a forerunner fortified planet within 92 hours....

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: FTW 1997
1.Grey no offense but yes it was a desperate attempt to infect the main world of the reclaimers and almost destroying a whole enemy at once.

3.yes he did have a whole month but he had problems like escaping quarantine...and he couldve infested high charity in a matter of hours....He infest the halo 04 in a few days i reckon...By the game that is...book also.....

4:he did expect that shanghelli are there but i dont think he would expect that they would glass the place.

5:cant argue with that .....But i thought once the body is dead....any single tissue of any flood form would infect the wound and be able to infect the body..

6:Well the lower scale and i think that the forerunner infected bodies where much more stronger and faster.


7:During the forerunner flood war it stated in one of the terminals that the flood would a forerunner fortified planet within 92 hours....



1. And I asked for a source. Because,as I said, in halo evolutions he didn't care about earth he was trying to find out about the ark.

2. The gravemind has the processing equal of cortana if not better. So again this isn't an excuse. HC wasn't infested in hours seeing how the fleets of HC are still focusing on the flood escaping 05 and each other.
04 was never infested so I assume you mean 05. And (as usual) I am going to ask for a source stating the the flood infested 05 because i recall them trying to leave the ring.

3. By which this Ancient gravemind is an idiot. He would have knowledge of all sangheili tactics by that time.


4. It should be like that but since that was only seen in the motion comic of "The Mona Lisa" and not in any other encounter we can't be sure.



5. That is conjecture seeing how we don't know anything about the average forerunner.


6. Again, what is your source? what terminal?

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1:And do what on ark ?
While he would cripple the ark....the fleets of both covenant and Unsc would crush his tiny hive...

2:I dont quite get how such a huge organ such as GM could fit in a frigate.

3:I dont know of how many ships that fleet consisted so i cant say anything.

4:Nothing.

5:Yes but since the forerunners had mutations to different forms...most likely warrior forms would be used in combat.

6:Il provide the terminal later....

By the way halo 4 was infected...After the covenant opened the facility and after the level 343 guilty spark the halo gets infested with flood.

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I by the way...noticed the gods are not allowed !


Posted by: MAC Blast
I was wondering this for a while, who would win between these two universes?
everyone at their strongest, but no precursors or old ones. super weapons can only attack a single solar system at once, no killing the entire galaxy with halo/similar thing. this means NO GODS SNAPPING their fingers and everyone dies.

  • 11.30.2011 7:27 AM PDT

RIP Ginger

Spring 1997 - 6 January 2012

40k easily and then if you talk about the Dark Age of Technology, easily again.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

1. Stop everybody from going there, did you not pay attention during floodgate?

2. Um he is smaller than a frigate not to mention he could have teleported himself.

3. upwards of a thousand

5. and like i said warrior forms are not common forerunners; who is infected doesn't matter seeing how the FSC can change into anything.

6. You should have provided it from the start.

7. Do you understand what you mean by "installation 4 was infected"? That installation had an outbreak the ring was not infected same for 05.

  • 11.30.2011 7:29 AM PDT


Posted by: FTW 1997
By the way halo 04 was infected...After the covenant opened the facility and after the level 343 guilty spark the halo gets infested with flood.


No, it wasn't. Grey is talking infection on the scale of the level Cortana in Halo 3. Not simply combat forms running about.

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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: FTW 1997
By the way halo 04 was infected...After the covenant opened the facility and after the level 343 guilty spark the halo gets infested with flood.


No, it wasn't. Grey is talking infection on the scale of the level Cortana in Halo 3. Not simply combat forms running about.

Ohh ok then....

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Five exclamations marks are a good signifier of an insane mind. As is trying to hide from Death in an airtight room. Silly wizard.


Posted by: Chris marines
40k easily and then if you talk about the Dark Age of Technology, easily again.

i didnt know about the dark age. iron men would be extremely hard to beat.

  • 11.30.2011 12:26 PM PDT


Posted by: wonderbreadd
Halo would win hands down, "why?" you may ask. I will tell you why.


Master Chief's luck.


Look at this troll. Davian Thule alone would wipe the floor with John. John wouldn't even be able to lay a hand on Davian before he was face down with nearly every bone, every major organ destroyed, in a pool of his own blood and gore.

Davian Thule > John-117

You wanna debate?

Give me your best shot.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/-6N2zKNanZZI/Tn1gJW5IMHI/AAAAAAAAAIg/9IG b33U7amE/DoW2.jpg

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  • 12.01.2011 1:38 AM PDT


Posted by: ThePredkiller2

Posted by: wonderbreadd
Halo would win hands down, "why?" you may ask. I will tell you why.


Master Chief's luck.


Look at this troll. Davian Thule alone would wipe the floor with John. John wouldn't even be able to lay a hand on Davian before he was face down with nearly every bone, every major organ destroyed, in a pool of his own blood and gore.

Davian Thule > John-117

You wanna debate?

Give me your best shot.


A meteorite luckily hits and kills Davian Thule.

  • 12.01.2011 1:46 AM PDT


Posted by: otterboyz

Posted by: ThePredkiller2

Posted by: wonderbreadd
Halo would win hands down, "why?" you may ask. I will tell you why.


Master Chief's luck.


Look at this troll. Davian Thule alone would wipe the floor with John. John wouldn't even be able to lay a hand on Davian before he was face down with nearly every bone, every major organ destroyed, in a pool of his own blood and gore.

Davian Thule > John-117

You wanna debate?

Give me your best shot.


A meteorite luckily hits and kills Davian Thule.


How is that even relevant? How does a random meteorite falling on Davian constitute a victory to John? Nor does that suggest in anyway that John is superior to Davian.

If that is your best I am deeply disappointed. Look at what fools these trolls make out of the John-117 fanbase, this just goes to show how a majority of the John-117 fans are. What a shame.

You sir may leave, and take your failed argument with you.

[Edited on 12.01.2011 1:51 AM PST]

  • 12.01.2011 1:49 AM PDT


Posted by: ThePredkiller2

Posted by: otterboyz

Posted by: ThePredkiller2

Posted by: wonderbreadd
Halo would win hands down, "why?" you may ask. I will tell you why.


Master Chief's luck.


Look at this troll. Davian Thule alone would wipe the floor with John. John wouldn't even be able to lay a hand on Davian before he was face down with nearly every bone, every major organ destroyed, in a pool of his own blood and gore.

Davian Thule > John-117

You wanna debate?

Give me your best shot.


A meteorite luckily hits and kills Davian Thule.


How is that even relevant? How does a random meteorite falling on Davian constitute a victory to John? Nor does that suggest in anyway that John is superior to Davian.

If that is your best I am deeply disappointed. Look at what fools these trolls make out of the John-117 fanbase, this just goes to show how a majority of the John-117 fans are. What a shame.

You sir may leave, and take your failed argument with you.

Facepalm. You sir, Fail. lol.

  • 12.01.2011 1:56 AM PDT


Posted by: ThePredkiller2

Posted by: otterboyz

Posted by: ThePredkiller2

Posted by: wonderbreadd
Halo would win hands down, "why?" you may ask. I will tell you why.


Master Chief's luck.


Look at this troll. Davian Thule alone would wipe the floor with John. John wouldn't even be able to lay a hand on Davian before he was face down with nearly every bone, every major organ destroyed, in a pool of his own blood and gore.

Davian Thule > John-117

You wanna debate?

Give me your best shot.


A meteorite luckily hits and kills Davian Thule.


How is that even relevant? How does a random meteorite falling on Davian constitute a victory to John? Nor does that suggest in anyway that John is superior to Davian.

If that is your best I am deeply disappointed. Look at what fools these trolls make out of the John-117 fanbase, this just goes to show how a majority of the John-117 fans are. What a shame.

You sir may leave, and take your failed argument with you.


But Johns superiorluck willed the meteorite to kill Davian Thule, whose inferior luck resulted in the mangling on many vital organs, including his second heart.

Thus John is better and wins the fight.

  • 12.01.2011 1:58 AM PDT


Posted by: otterboyz

Posted by: ThePredkiller2

Posted by: otterboyz

Posted by: ThePredkiller2

Posted by: wonderbreadd
Halo would win hands down, "why?" you may ask. I will tell you why.


Master Chief's luck.


Look at this troll. Davian Thule alone would wipe the floor with John. John wouldn't even be able to lay a hand on Davian before he was face down with nearly every bone, every major organ destroyed, in a pool of his own blood and gore.

Davian Thule > John-117

You wanna debate?

Give me your best shot.


A meteorite luckily hits and kills Davian Thule.


How is that even relevant? How does a random meteorite falling on Davian constitute a victory to John? Nor does that suggest in anyway that John is superior to Davian.

If that is your best I am deeply disappointed. Look at what fools these trolls make out of the John-117 fanbase, this just goes to show how a majority of the John-117 fans are. What a shame.

You sir may leave, and take your failed argument with you.


But Johns superiorluck willed the meteorite to kill Davian Thule, whose inferior luck resulted in the mangling on many vital organs, including his second heart.

Thus John is better and wins the fight.


What fight? That is a copout. GTFO. You deserve no more of a response than that.

  • 12.01.2011 2:02 AM PDT



Posted by: ThePredkiller2
What fight? That is a copout. GTFO. You deserve no more of a response than that.

Dude, he's joking. Geez.

  • 12.01.2011 3:04 AM PDT

Weapon of Oppression

Anyone that says the Covenant or even the UNSC can STFU.
Why is this fight still up ?
Halo is outnumbered and outgunned by the vast majority that is the Warhammer 40k universe. Heck Tryanids are better than the Flood in every ossible level.
Necrons are equal to, if not superior to the Forerunners.
The Unsc and covenant, even at their height, barely have as many colonies as the Imperium of Man.
I find it very funny the Spartan Lazer, which is one of the most powerful antivehicular weapons in halo, is about on par as the standard issue Las gun given to Imperial gaurdsman. None of which is even able to harm a space marine let alone any tank in warhammer.
Halo does not and will not have a chance.

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Posted by: ExcellentSix

I find it very funny the Spartan Lazer, which is one of the most powerful antivehicular weapons in halo, is about on par as the standard issue Las gun given to Imperial gaurdsman. None of which is even able to harm a space marine let alone any tank in warhammer.


source for that?

  • 12.01.2011 3:28 PM PDT

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I was the one who turned the tide Halo now has 51%

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: halo Monster95
I was the one who turned the tide Halo now has 51%


In which i just sign into an alt account and fix that.

  • 12.01.2011 3:43 PM PDT

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40k.

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  • 12.01.2011 3:54 PM PDT