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Subject: Halo vs. Warhammer 40,000

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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Well, there is the fact the Tyranids have devoured countless Galaxies, break down all organic life on a planet to add to their fleet, and are very very good with poisons and toxins.

Seeing as I think not even a full fleet has been faced yet in 40k? and those small ones terrified EVERYBODY.

Sounds like the flood to me. Except they didn't send a whole galaxy to attack the milky way.

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Posted by: SubtleSpartan

All I can see from a tyranid invasion is them landing, breathing in flood spores and becoming infected


I want a source for somebody getting infected by breathing in flood spores. The people that actually know how the flood are even sketchy about how they work. This means the ODST's in halo 3 should have been infected,along with the scarabs,lekgolo,etc. The Flood alters the environment to better suit them, we don't know anything of an airborne infection.

  • 12.14.2011 11:50 AM PDT

Friend, you ignore the fact that your precious spores and flood attack group, was contained by 12 or so ships vastly inferior to ANYTHING the forerunners had. I'm sorry, but flood arriving on a planet are not an end of the planet deal. Especially when you are talking about 40k, MASSIVELY overpowered, AT FULL STRENGTH.

Which you know, means... millions of space marines maybe? The emperer of mankind fighting there. All the eldar race.

Oh, and another detail The Tyranid forces are constantly changing and evolving at an unnatural speed. It is unlikely that all types of Tyranids have been seen by the Imperium, and still less likely that they will ever all be seen. Tyranids evolve rapidly. One infected by spores will likely cause all the others to develop immunity to it.

edit: Or they'd absorb flood DNA, and use that.

The only flood spore infections we've seen was halo wars, that's partly gameplay but also a massive cloud of spores directly swarming over a single person. Not just breathing it in.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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Posted by: SubtleSpartan

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Well, there is the fact the Tyranids have devoured countless Galaxies, break down all organic life on a planet to add to their fleet, and are very very good with poisons and toxins.

Seeing as I think not even a full fleet has been faced yet in 40k? and those small ones terrified EVERYBODY.

Sounds like the flood to me. Except they didn't send a whole galaxy to attack the milky way.


Um the flood couldn't even fully infect this galaxy, we have no source saying that they fully infected a galaxy or more than that.

You have no info on the flood nor warhammer, so you really shouldn't be getting into this. Especially if you are going to try twisting everything up to "make the flood win".

  • 12.14.2011 11:52 AM PDT

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Since none of you seem to understand what I am saying, I will state it again.

The tyranid invasion would not work because the flood supercell will simply mutate any invaders into more flood. Even if they do manage to consume a planet, the flood matter covering world they just absorbed would simply infect them, so by attacking the flood in their conventional methods, they are merely adding to the floods strength.

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Posted by: grey101

Posted by: SubtleSpartan

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Well, there is the fact the Tyranids have devoured countless Galaxies, break down all organic life on a planet to add to their fleet, and are very very good with poisons and toxins.

Seeing as I think not even a full fleet has been faced yet in 40k? and those small ones terrified EVERYBODY.

Sounds like the flood to me. Except they didn't send a whole galaxy to attack the milky way.


Um the flood couldn't even fully infect this galaxy, we have no source saying that they fully infected a galaxy or more than that.

You have no info on the flood nor warhammer, so you really shouldn't be getting into this. Especially if you are going to try twisting everything up to "make the flood win".

Do we know that the tyranids have consumed entire other galaxies? Is there actual 100% evidence showing that they have? If not you're just being a hypocrite.

  • 12.14.2011 11:54 AM PDT

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Necrons + Daemons + C'tan + Immaterial Entities (including God-Emperor) = Overkilled Flood 40K times

  • 12.14.2011 11:55 AM PDT

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Posted by: grey101

Posted by: SubtleSpartan

All I can see from a tyranid invasion is them landing, breathing in flood spores and becoming infected


I want a source for somebody getting infected by breathing in flood spores. The people that actually know how the flood are even sketchy about how they work. This means the ODST's in halo 3 should have been infected,along with the scarabs,lekgolo,etc. The Flood alters the environment to better suit them, we don't know anything of an airborne infection.

I quote from 343 guilty spark. " the infection form carries spores that cause a host to mutate. The host then produces spores that can spread the flood to others."

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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Well, there is the fact the Tyranids have devoured countless Galaxies, break down all organic life on a planet to add to their fleet, and are very very good with poisons and toxins.

Seeing as I think not even a full fleet has been faced yet in 40k? and those small ones terrified EVERYBODY.

Sounds like the flood to me. Except they didn't send a whole galaxy to attack the milky way.


Um the flood couldn't even fully infect this galaxy, we have no source saying that they fully infected a galaxy or more than that.

You have no info on the flood nor warhammer, so you really shouldn't be getting into this. Especially if you are going to try twisting everything up to "make the flood win".

Do we know that the tyranids have consumed entire other galaxies? Is there actual 100% evidence showing that they have? If not you're just being a hypocrite.
Actually yes

As of now, they have consumed one thousand galaxies and are responsible for the annihilation of millions of intelligent species.

Derp.

Source

[Edited on 12.14.2011 11:56 AM PST]

  • 12.14.2011 11:56 AM PDT

There even proof that the Tyranids breaking down flood biomass like that on the infected ship in Halo 3 would infect them?

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Flood mutation is irrelevant when the most powerful species in Warhammer 40K are un-mutate-able(unless they want to mutate themselves)

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Posted by: grey101
Especially if you are going to try twisting everything up to "make the flood win".


Quote one instance when I have "twisted" something. As far as I am aware I have not done so.

  • 12.14.2011 11:58 AM PDT

You know, let's just look at this map.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/f/fe/Tyranids_inc ursions.jpg

Notice the size of the invading fleets?

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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
There even proof that the Tyranids breaking down flood biomass like that on the infected ship in Halo 3 would infect them?[/quote]
There even proof the tyranids would be able to develop immunity to the flood supercell? No, we are all running on speculation based on the facts available to us. It is impossible to know how such an event would actually turn out.

Posted by: AJF1177
Do we know that the tyranids have consumed entire other galaxies? Is there actual 100% evidence showing that they have? If not you're just being a hypocrite.

Actually yes

As of now, they have consumed one thousand galaxies and are responsible for the annihilation of millions of intelligent species.

Derp.

Source

Fair enough.

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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
You know, let's just look at this map.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/f/fe/Tyranids_inc ursions.jpg

Notice the size of the invading fleets?
Wait is Behemoth larger than an arm of the galaxy?

  • 12.14.2011 12:01 PM PDT

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Even if we conceded that the Tyranids and the Space Marines could be infected (I think the SMs can, but not sure about Tyranids), you still have to contend with the Necrons, the C'tan, and the Immaterial Entities. The Necrons, during the time of the War In Heaven could have easily conquered the entire galaxy if it weren't for the Old Ones and their psyker powers. This is because the Chaos Gods hadn't been born yet. If you were to put together the Necrons and C'tan, which are the masters of the material universe, and all of the Immaterial entities, which are the masters of the immaterial universe, then together, they are all-powerful

  • 12.14.2011 12:02 PM PDT

Still haven't shown spores as being a quick way of infection.

Any carried by infection forms would be moot as it force infects.

Oh, and you know, Spirit of Fire crew much?

Forge was on the ground, along with number of marines, and they never got affected by spores (bar the gameplay mass swarm over a single guy)

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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Still haven't shown spores as being a quick way of infection.

Any carried by infection forms would be moot as it force infects.
Wait wouldn't the Tyranids just adapt to become immune to being infected?

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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Posted by: grey101
Especially if you are going to try twisting everything up to "make the flood win".


Quote one instance when I have "twisted" something. As far as I am aware I have not done so.


Every statement we give about the nids you retort with "but the flood can do this". And the FSC only works if you can get infected in the first place, which is why we pretty much ruled out space marines.

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I always thought Space Marines were engineered so that they could only be infected with maladies of the soul, which would explain Daemonic diseases through Nurgle

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Posted by: rst7503
I always thought Space Marines were engineered so that they could only be infected with maladies of the soul, which would explain Daemonic diseases through Nurgle
They were that's why we ruled them out of being infect-able.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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Posted by: SubtleSpartan

All I can see from a tyranid invasion is them landing, breathing in flood spores and becoming infected


I want a source for somebody getting infected by breathing in flood spores. The people that actually know how the flood are even sketchy about how they work. This means the ODST's in halo 3 should have been infected,along with the scarabs,lekgolo,etc. The Flood alters the environment to better suit them, we don't know anything of an airborne infection.

I quote from 343 guilty spark. " the infection form carries spores that cause a host to mutate. The host then produces spores that can spread the flood to others."


The same 343 that said the forerunners were wiped out when we know they aren't?

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Posted by: grey101
The same 343 that said the forerunners were wiped out when we know they aren't?

I am in disbelief at that statement. It is just blind ignorance.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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Posted by: grey101
The same 343 that said the forerunners were wiped out when we know they aren't?

I am in disbelief at that statement. It is just blind ignorance.


In other words you have been proven wrong and have nothing else to say.

  • 12.14.2011 12:28 PM PDT

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Posted by: grey101

Posted by: SubtleSpartan

Posted by: grey101
The same 343 that said the forerunners were wiped out when we know they aren't?

I am in disbelief at that statement. It is just blind ignorance.


In other words you have been proven wrong and have nothing else to say.

In other words I pronounce you either a troll/flamer or an idiot. By your logic, since galen was incorrect about the function of the heart, he was incorrect in stating that the brain controls the body.

Excluding the fact that you have not even the slightest proof that the forerunners are still alive.

[Edited on 12.14.2011 12:37 PM PST]

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