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Subject: Do you think Bungie is an overrated game developer?
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This (and THIS) was for Reach...and/or Harvest


Posted by: grey101
Yes seeing how the halo series might have done good from a sales perspective but quality wise Halo CE was best.

Despite that halo CE was still rushed, halo 2 could easily be the best game in the series since a massive amount of content didn't get in yet it is on par with halo 2. Halo 3 suffered from a change of development and was also rushed. And Reach was rushed also,wow.


So the entire halo series was rushed and didn't reach full it's cup. I understand that there will always be content that won't make it in but bungie has a game load when it comes to halo.


Yep, you're not far from the truth of it. Perhaps there is your reason for leaving microsoft, dev cycle was too restrictive.

There may be plenty of overrated dev's out there but bungie isn't on of them. They have yet to make a bad game, which is proof enough of their talent as a studio. I don't proclaim bungies perfection, far from it, I just defend their reputation, which speaks for itself.

  • 11.30.2011 7:45 PM PDT

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Hell no, they are a top 3-5 developer in my book. Especially when it comes to online features, they have the best matchmaking system out there. People take for granite little things like fair matchmaking. Until Reach, Bungie was the top dog. Reach, on the other hand, was meant for casuals opposed to hardcore Halo fans.

  • 11.30.2011 7:55 PM PDT

I loved ODST. I thought it had the best atmosphere and story out of all the games so far.

  • 11.30.2011 9:07 PM PDT

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Bungie is a great game developing company that has been dedicated to their customers for a long time. Their last games were good, but they didn't really add up to the other ones in my opinion. They were still good though. I personally don't think they're overrated.

[Edited on 11.30.2011 9:19 PM PST]

  • 11.30.2011 9:19 PM PDT

I liked ODST. I don't get the hate for it. Was it overpriced? Yeah you could say that, but I wouldn't call it a failure. Reach, however was.

As for whether or not Bungie as a studio is overrated...I'll reserve my judgement for their next release.

  • 11.30.2011 10:19 PM PDT

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  • 11.30.2011 11:19 PM PDT

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1) Halo 3's banhammer was automated and it worked like it should have. Just because you didn't notice it doesnt mean it wasn't doing its job.

2) I'm getting really sick of seeing this argument. MICROSOFT CHOSE THE PRICE, not Bungie.

3) This is all opinion, so I won't argue with this.

And to answer the thread title, no.

  • 11.30.2011 11:19 PM PDT
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Over rated? No. Over hyped? Maybe.

Bungie is a great game dev, but there are a lot of those out there. I think what really sets them apart is the fact that they seem to interact with their fanbase a lot more than most of the other game devs out there, aside from maybe Valve.

With most of the other devs its pretty much, they make a game then listen to the masses for suggestions on updates, or add ons and that's about it. Bungie actually takes the time to listen for that stuff, and much much more.

  • 11.30.2011 11:23 PM PDT

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Couldnt have said it better

  • 11.30.2011 11:43 PM PDT

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I think Bungie's biggest challege is the having success in their second IP.

They've already shown the world that they can release an amazing game, and improve upon it and its universe in each sequel.

But can they do it... all over again?

[Edited on 12.01.2011 12:18 AM PST]

  • 12.01.2011 12:16 AM PDT

first quit complaining because you sound like a little girl on her rag. second reach is not terrible you just suck at it h3 was a terrible game compare to halo 2 and reach but that didn't stop me from playing it. The way i see it the only thing halo 3 had going was the theater system and shiny graphics. If halo 2 had the a graphical up date and ran with the halo reach servers it would blow halo 3 out of the water. halo 3 was good but compared to reach and halo 2 it terrible. i rather play 2 or reach any other day over halo 3. reach and halo 2 are by far one of the best halo games made. you must be one of them kids that cant deal with armor lock, or hates bloom or cant deal with armor ability's or maybe you don't like how reach requires more skill. since you don't like the last few games bungie has made why don't you make a game that is better then reach and that cant be hacked since all your good at is complaining

  • 12.01.2011 5:18 AM PDT

Posted by: HappyMeals
I do agree that their most recent games haven't been up to par, but they've got a pretty good track record.


Pretty much this

  • 12.01.2011 5:47 AM PDT

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But can they do it... all over again?

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  • 12.01.2011 5:48 AM PDT
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Halo 3 ODST was priced the way it was mostly due to Microsoft. Bungie was partnered up with Microsoft back then, and I imagine that Bungie didn't agree with the price, but Microsoft probably didn't care. As for your other complaints about ODST and Halo Reach, those are your opinions. I can't really comment on the Halo 3 cheating thing since I can't justify that; my only idea on that is that it was a problem that couldn't be easily solved. Bungie have made amazing games and have done amazing things. I strongly disagree that they are overrated.

[Edited on 12.01.2011 6:59 AM PST]

  • 12.01.2011 6:58 AM PDT

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  • 12.01.2011 6:59 AM PDT
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Positive vibes.

Overrated doesn't even begin to describe it.

Seriously though, I am no longer the Halo fanatic I once was, so I can't say I appreciate their games as much as I did in the past. It has nothing to do with the quality of the games themselves, but the fact that I have lost all interest in playing video games.

  • 12.01.2011 7:21 AM PDT

STFU

ok, I'll say it in this thread ...........

I stopped reading after the second line.

  • 12.01.2011 7:40 AM PDT

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Posted by: ArchSquishy
first quit complaining because you sound like a little girl on her rag. second reach is not terrible you just suck at it h3 was a terrible game compare to halo 2 and reach but that didn't stop me from playing it. The way i see it the only thing halo 3 had going was the theater system and shiny graphics. If halo 2 had the a graphical up date and ran with the halo reach servers it would blow halo 3 out of the water. halo 3 was good but compared to reach and halo 2 it terrible. i rather play 2 or reach any other day over halo 3. reach and halo 2 are by far one of the best halo games made. you must be one of them kids that cant deal with armor lock, or hates bloom or cant deal with armor ability's or maybe you don't like how reach requires more skill. since you don't like the last few games bungie has made why don't you make a game that is better then reach and that cant be hacked since all your good at is complaining

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OT: I would say Bungie (or rather, Halo) is overrated, to a degree. At the same time, I still think they're an awesome developer and am looking forward to their next project.

  • 12.01.2011 7:43 AM PDT
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Well, here we are. I guess that it was destined to come to this.

I think that any developer/studio with instant name recognition and that is still in business is "doing something right" (at least in the eyes of a significant number of fans, gamers, consumers).

Name recognition and reputation alone is hard to come by. Most people who game, buy games, enjoy games probably can count the number of studios they know by name on their fingers, usually on one hand.

And even then, being "known" and being known for producing quality (or popular) material is no guarantee of continued existence. Just look at all of the AAA and/or well-known studios/divisions/teams/developers who have shut down, closed, dissolved, or been absorbed over the years.

So, there aren't that many devs out there who have name recognition and survivability/longevity. To then say that any dev on that (now very short) list is "over-rated" is to ignore the fact that they have done what others (who were similarly talented) failed to do. Continue to exist and continue to produce.

Over-rated? Perhaps. Depends on how a person decides to rate. If it is the "what have you done for ME lately?" criteria? Then there will always be those who haven't liked recent offerings or what they percieve as trends away from what is "good" (to them).

Fair enough.

But if you consider the industry to be a very competitive and unforgiving environment, then there are only a couple of entities that are the sharks and cockroaches of that world. Beings that are so perfect for their niche that they continue to exist, unchanged and still recognizable after eons have passed.

Bungie is one such entity. Now, do YOU classify them as cockroach or shark? Your call. But you can't deny their accomplishment(s).

Edit: grammar cleanup. Call me obsessive. It's true.

[Edited on 12.01.2011 10:11 AM PST]

  • 12.01.2011 10:05 AM PDT

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Definitely.

It's also funny that you mention Theater as being one of the only things they did right with Reach, when it's a massive downgrade from the H3 Theater. Perhaps one of the biggest singular features with H3 Theater was the party-viewing, yet it was taken out in Reach for the sake of being able to watch mindless AI in campaign more clearly.

  • 12.01.2011 10:30 AM PDT

Their recent titles have been pretty bad... Reach mainly, Halo 3 was good, but could have used a lot of improvement, but it seemed Bungie was to stubborn/prideful to change certain things like the BR spread for example.

ODST was a good game, but it being $60 is debatable I guess.

  • 12.01.2011 11:13 AM PDT

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Mostly underrated. I hope in the bright future people will buy Bungie games because they are Bungie, not just Halo. Even though Halo was/is kick ass.

  • 12.01.2011 11:25 AM PDT

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I do believe Bungie is a great game developer, I've enjoyed every single halo game, my only problem with Reach was the story which was way too off from the books and stuff.

Microsoft is the one who set the price, not Bungie, Bungie makes games, Microsoft is the one who sell them.

ODST was great too, I do not regret paying 60 bucks for any of their games.

[Edited on 12.01.2011 11:30 AM PST]

  • 12.01.2011 11:29 AM PDT

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OP - You're a dumbass with the reading comprehension skills of a second grader.


Can someone tell me what's wrong with these two, this made me LOL hard.

I thought M$ set the ODST prices.

Reach was bad, but the campaign was good in my opinion. If Bungie pulled something out that the whole Noble team survived, then it would've been bad.

And a lot of people got banned in Halo 3.

  • 12.01.2011 12:00 PM PDT
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Reaches campaign was pretty good in my opinion. I think that because Bungie found themselves just trying to keep on par with previous games rather than become superstars after their first few games, the fame got to their heads. I don't think that they're entirely overrated, but a one thing that makes a game feel unsuccessful is the pre-release 'hype' that the community makes.

With so much hype, you expect the game to give you the world, and if it doesn't then all of a sudden it's a bad game? The first Halo game was nothing. There was no base of players that was developed, no expectations.

  • 12.01.2011 12:02 PM PDT