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Flash Kicks beat Armor Lock.

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Posted by: RC Clone
It is BtB . . .

I think the creator wanted to give breathing room for the Falcons to keep them a powerful element of gameplay on that map.


You can do that without making the map sized for 20v20... which it seems to be.

  • 12.01.2011 12:46 PM PDT
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Posted by: Horse Repairman
RC RuNz the internet. Like the superintendent.

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Clone is an internet God.

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RC Clone is the anti-thesis of a lurker.

Posted by: Darkside Eric
Posted by: RC Clone
It is BtB . . .

I think the creator wanted to give breathing room for the Falcons to keep them a powerful element of gameplay on that map.


You can do that without making the map sized for 20v20... which it seems to be.

I think the map is nicely sized for Vehicle combat even if the on foot movement is very slow.

  • 12.01.2011 12:58 PM PDT

Flash Kicks beat Armor Lock.

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Posted by: RC Clone
Posted by: Darkside Eric
Posted by: RC Clone
It is BtB . . .

I think the creator wanted to give breathing room for the Falcons to keep them a powerful element of gameplay on that map.


You can do that without making the map sized for 20v20... which it seems to be.

I think the map is nicely sized for Vehicle combat even if the on foot movement is very slow.


Yes, it is nice sized for vehicle combat.

However the only really good portion, especially for ground vehicles, is the big middle area.

Infantry movement on that map is a huge waste of time, even with Sprint/Evade.

  • 12.01.2011 1:02 PM PDT

Posted by: Recon Number 54
Life is a journey, if you spend all of it with your nose in your map, you may miss some of the best parts.

Jet pack needs to be removed. I'm not surprised 343 didn't do anything to Arena Season 10.

  • 12.01.2011 1:03 PM PDT
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Posted by: Horse Repairman
RC RuNz the internet. Like the superintendent.

Posted by: SouthPoIe
Clone is an internet God.

Posted by: DerpRoids
RC Clone is the anti-thesis of a lurker.

Posted by: RustedEdge
Jet pack needs to be removed. I'm not surprised 343 didn't do anything to Arena Season 10.

Why go to the Arena for Competitive Halo combat, when you can get it in MLG and Anniversary?

Oh, what's that? You want to have competitive games with competitive gameplay, without matching randoms?

lol that's foolish.

  • 12.01.2011 1:11 PM PDT

Posted by: Recon Number 54
Life is a journey, if you spend all of it with your nose in your map, you may miss some of the best parts.


Posted by: RC Clone
Posted by: RustedEdge
Jet pack needs to be removed. I'm not surprised 343 didn't do anything to Arena Season 10.

Why go to the Arena for Competitive Halo combat, when you can get it in MLG and Anniversary?

Oh, what's that? You want to have competitive games with competitive gameplay, without matching randoms?

lol that's foolish.


I already do it in MLG and Anniversary. I'm never touching Arena unless my friends force me to, or the playlist gets better.

  • 12.01.2011 1:16 PM PDT

Flash Kicks beat Armor Lock.

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Posted by: RustedEdge
Jet pack needs to be removed. I'm not surprised 343 didn't do anything to Arena Season 10.


Or we could have MLG members actually Forge maps that take Armor Abilities into account.

  • 12.01.2011 1:19 PM PDT

Jetpacks are fun. Leave them in. Except for certain game modes and maps.

  • 12.01.2011 1:21 PM PDT


Posted by: RC Clone
Posted by: RustedEdge
Jet pack needs to be removed. I'm not surprised 343 didn't do anything to Arena Season 10.

Why go to the Arena for Competitive Halo combat, when you can get it in MLG and Anniversary?

Oh, what's that? You want to have competitive games with competitive gameplay, without matching randoms?

lol that's foolish.

Calm down, J'zargo. Not everything has to be super competitive.

  • 12.01.2011 1:22 PM PDT
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Posted by: Horse Repairman
RC RuNz the internet. Like the superintendent.

Posted by: SouthPoIe
Clone is an internet God.

Posted by: DerpRoids
RC Clone is the anti-thesis of a lurker.

Posted by: Kashmir A17
Posted by: RC Clone
Posted by: RustedEdge
Jet pack needs to be removed. I'm not surprised 343 didn't do anything to Arena Season 10.

Why go to the Arena for Competitive Halo combat, when you can get it in MLG and Anniversary?

Oh, what's that? You want to have competitive games with competitive gameplay, without matching randoms?

lol that's foolish.

Calm down, J'zargo. Not everything has to be super competitive.

J'zargo?

  • 12.01.2011 1:25 PM PDT

Flash Kicks beat Armor Lock.

TheLab.


Posted by: RC Clone
Posted by: Kashmir A17
Posted by: RC Clone
Posted by: RustedEdge
Jet pack needs to be removed. I'm not surprised 343 didn't do anything to Arena Season 10.

Why go to the Arena for Competitive Halo combat, when you can get it in MLG and Anniversary?

Oh, what's that? You want to have competitive games with competitive gameplay, without matching randoms?

lol that's foolish.

Calm down, J'zargo. Not everything has to be super competitive.

J'zargo?


Skyrim reference.

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Posted by: Horse Repairman
RC RuNz the internet. Like the superintendent.

Posted by: SouthPoIe
Clone is an internet God.

Posted by: DerpRoids
RC Clone is the anti-thesis of a lurker.

Posted by: Darkside Eric
Skyrim reference.

Oh. I don't play it.

  • 12.01.2011 1:30 PM PDT

U Wot m8

Well looks like I won.=]

  • 12.01.2011 1:47 PM PDT

Name's John. I'm a 21-year-old firefighter/EMT from lolhio who doubles as a die-hard Halo fan. I've been enjoying the franchise since 2001. My favorite iteration of Halo would have to be Halo 2 simply because I never got to experience the joy of a full-on Halo: CE LAN.


If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.

Oh yeah, and boot Zome.


Posted by: WoundedMr Krabs
Lol, I can't believe I might lose. I thought it was universally agreed that Jetpacks are game breaking and horrible for competitive gameplay.



You're assuming that about half the forum knows what they're talking about. Most of them have probably never played a good jetpacker, let alone a jetpacker outside of BTB.

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Posted by: Loltastrophe
Your brother is a retard.

  • 12.01.2011 2:34 PM PDT

Forget it man, and get with the countdown. Shake this square world and blast off for Kicksville.

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where a > b = d > c

Posted by: Kashmir A17
Calm down, J'zargo. Not everything has to be super competitive.

Skyrim references? Really? Really?.

  • 12.01.2011 2:34 PM PDT

I use jetpack all the time but I think jetpack is retarded.

  • 12.01.2011 2:37 PM PDT

Flash Kicks beat Armor Lock.

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Posted by: The Ruckus 2010
You're assuming that about half the forum knows what they're talking about.


I thought it was universally agreed that Jetpacks are game breaking

knows what they're talking about.

Clearly OP does not fit the "knows what he's talking about" criteria. Nor do you.

  • 12.01.2011 2:44 PM PDT

Name's John. I'm a 21-year-old firefighter/EMT from lolhio who doubles as a die-hard Halo fan. I've been enjoying the franchise since 2001. My favorite iteration of Halo would have to be Halo 2 simply because I never got to experience the joy of a full-on Halo: CE LAN.


If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.

Oh yeah, and boot Zome.


Posted by: Darkside Eric

Posted by: The Ruckus 2010
You're assuming that about half the forum knows what they're talking about.


I thought it was universally agreed that Jetpacks are game breaking

knows what they're talking about.

Clearly OP does not fit the "knows what he's talking about" criteria. Nor do you.


Whatever you say, bro.

  • 12.01.2011 2:46 PM PDT

Flash Kicks beat Armor Lock.

TheLab.


Posted by: The Ruckus 2010

Posted by: Darkside Eric

Posted by: The Ruckus 2010
You're assuming that about half the forum knows what they're talking about.


I thought it was universally agreed that Jetpacks are game breaking

knows what they're talking about.

Clearly OP does not fit the "knows what he's talking about" criteria. Nor do you.


Whatever you say, bro.


Perhaps if you've read the conversation 'tween myself, Ryu, and RC, you may get a grasp of why I am right and you... well, aren't.

  • 12.01.2011 2:58 PM PDT

Name's John. I'm a 21-year-old firefighter/EMT from lolhio who doubles as a die-hard Halo fan. I've been enjoying the franchise since 2001. My favorite iteration of Halo would have to be Halo 2 simply because I never got to experience the joy of a full-on Halo: CE LAN.


If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.

Oh yeah, and boot Zome.


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Posted by: The Ruckus 2010

Posted by: Darkside Eric

Posted by: The Ruckus 2010
You're assuming that about half the forum knows what they're talking about.


I thought it was universally agreed that Jetpacks are game breaking

knows what they're talking about.

Clearly OP does not fit the "knows what he's talking about" criteria. Nor do you.


Whatever you say, bro.


Perhaps if you've read the conversation 'tween myself, Ryu, and RC, you may get a grasp of why I am right and you... well, aren't.


No, this would devolve into nothing more than semantics. I could argue that if AA's weren't introduced, there would be no need to cater to them with the map design. There really wasn't a call for jetpacks. I would agree that map design is a huge problem with jetpacks, but ultimately the problem lies with the introduction of jetpacks in the first place.

Basically, neither of us are really wrong, and I'd prefer not to get into an argument when our ending position is more or less the same. The position being, whether through fault of the maps or implementation, jetpacks do not work well in this game.

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  • 12.01.2011 3:04 PM PDT

The Song Of Nephilim

Xenoblade <3

They do not.

  • 12.01.2011 3:08 PM PDT

Flash Kicks beat Armor Lock.

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Posted by: The Ruckus 2010
No, this would devolve into nothing more than semantics. I could argue that if AA's weren't introduced, there would be no need to cater to them with the map design. There really wasn't a call for jetpacks. I would agree that map design is a huge problem with jetpacks, but ultimately the problem lies with the introduction of jetpacks in the first place.


Except again, you're wrong.

The maps are supposed to be designed in mind with all parts of in-game player controlled content and flow that the game is supposed to have.

Maps are designed with every gun in mind, every vehicle in mind, every Power Up in mind, etc, etc.

Even with no AAs, maps still have to be designed to "cater" to what's included in the game.

Thus, with AAs created, the maps should have simply continued the prior trend of being designed with all aspects in mind.

  • 12.01.2011 3:08 PM PDT

Name's John. I'm a 21-year-old firefighter/EMT from lolhio who doubles as a die-hard Halo fan. I've been enjoying the franchise since 2001. My favorite iteration of Halo would have to be Halo 2 simply because I never got to experience the joy of a full-on Halo: CE LAN.


If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.

Oh yeah, and boot Zome.


Posted by: Darkside Eric

Posted by: The Ruckus 2010
No, this would devolve into nothing more than semantics. I could argue that if AA's weren't introduced, there would be no need to cater to them with the map design. There really wasn't a call for jetpacks. I would agree that map design is a huge problem with jetpacks, but ultimately the problem lies with the introduction of jetpacks in the first place.


Except again, you're wrong.


Not really. Halo maps have always been designed a certain way. Again, had AA's not been a prospect in the game, there would be no need to create maps that facilitate their use without breaking gameplay.

I understand that map design is the primary problem with jetpacks as they are, but there would be no need for map design catered to AA's if they weren't introduced in the first place. They could have just stuck to the original formula of making Halo maps and left AA's out. Instead, they didn't and we've seen the result.

  • 12.01.2011 3:13 PM PDT

Flash Kicks beat Armor Lock.

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Posted by: The Ruckus 2010
The position being, whether through fault of the maps or implementation, jetpacks do not work well in this game.


But the end result of this is not "more or less the same."

It literally is, because maps weren't designed with a mechanic in mind, that mechanic can now dominate more than it ever should have.

Jet Packs, on their own, are well balanced. It's the maps that make them unbalanced.

It would be the same if the Sniper spawns were all on high ground with lots of cover and a wide open stretch of courtyard for them to fire into.

The Sniper in that situation is not overpowered because the Sniper is overpowered, it's overpowered because the map was designed with the Sniper in a tremendously powerful position and having the map cater to that one position.

  • 12.01.2011 3:15 PM PDT