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Subject: Spartan IV's in Halo 4?

Could it be possible that we could see an entire new generation of Spartans in Halo 4? Glasslands pretty much confirms that there was a Spartan IV program (as I'm sure most of you already know) and that some Spartan IV's were assigned to the Infinity. As the how the Infinity directly is involved with the story of Halo 4 remains to be seen, but there is obviously much speculation to how the Infinity could be involved into the plot. I believe it's totally possible that we could see some Spartan IV's in Halo 4, but I highly doubt that they could top the awesomeness that is/was the Spartan II's.

  • 12.02.2011 10:42 AM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

More spartans in the game would take away from chief,so no.

  • 12.02.2011 10:43 AM PDT

I never said it would be good for the story, just that it was totally possible for them to be in the game. I feel that if they added more spartans to the game it would make it feel like the "Charlie Foxtrot" that was Halo Reach drama between Noble Team.

  • 12.02.2011 10:49 AM PDT

Spartan IV's are possible but I would like it more to see Fred, Kelly and the other Spartan II's and Spartan III's.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: FISHYburned
I never said it would be good for the story, just that it was totally possible for them to be in the game. I feel that if they added more spartans to the game it would make it feel like the "Charlie Foxtrot" that was Halo Reach drama between Noble Team.


We have been told several times that the story arc is about chief and cortana. Having SVIs in the mix is going to be hell story wise. Nobody is going to know who or what they are since most people hate reading, thus it will pretty much be a reach.

  • 12.02.2011 10:52 AM PDT
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Keep it focused on chief. He's the only real character who anyone should care about. I was disgusted at the fact that soooo many people liked noble 6. They were like "oh noble 6 would wreck chief in a fight!!!!"

who cares!!!! He's chief! He doesn't lose just cause he's chief! Halo reach was a twist and I respected it, but come on....Chief is all we need.

[Edited on 12.02.2011 12:48 PM PST]

  • 12.02.2011 12:48 PM PDT


Posted by: Bus00
who cares!!!! He's chief!


That's it. Master Chief isn't just a character, he's a hero; a bloody icon! We lose Chief and humanity might well follow--

*ahem*

At the end of it all, Halo isn't really about ancient weapons of mass destruction, an ancient collective, a humanity in the future, a genocidal alien collective intent on our destruction or even space marines fighting aliens.

It's about the Master Chief, with his green armour, rifle and a little blue woman inside his head.

Nothing else is needed. You have the Chief, you have Halo.

  • 12.02.2011 1:09 PM PDT

Master Chief is a pretty cool guy. He kills aliens and doesnt afraid of anything.

  • 12.02.2011 1:16 PM PDT

play halo get kills

yeah watch the trailer for halo4

  • 12.02.2011 2:49 PM PDT

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Posted by: HipiO7
This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

No. The UNSC dosent have the type of resources to commit on such a program, at least not in the short run. They have much bigger priorities to focus on right now, like rebuilding and recolonizing.

Unless Halo 4 takes place various decades later, it'd be impossible for Spartan IV's to even exist.

  • 12.02.2011 2:56 PM PDT


Posted by: grey101
More spartans in the game would take away from chief,so no.


No they wouldn't.

There needs to be more characters other than just Cortana and Chief. Their banter isn't going to last three whole games.

[Edited on 12.02.2011 3:03 PM PST]

  • 12.02.2011 3:01 PM PDT

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I hope not. I really don't want the next Halo trilogy to distract attention from the MC at all.

  • 12.02.2011 3:04 PM PDT

You can have fellow Spartans, and still have 'Chief the main man.

  • 12.02.2011 3:23 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: HipiO7
No. The UNSC dosent have the type of resources to commit on such a program, at least not in the short run. They have much bigger priorities to focus on right now, like rebuilding and recolonizing.

Unless Halo 4 takes place various decades later, it'd be impossible for Spartan IV's to even exist.


Apparently around 4 months after the war is enough time to make a Spartan-IV program according to Glasslands.

And yes, adding S-IVs in Halo 4 would be terrible.

  • 12.02.2011 3:37 PM PDT


Posted by: Cal160
yeah watch the trailer for halo4


what are you blithering about?

  • 12.02.2011 3:44 PM PDT


Posted by: HipiO7
No. The UNSC dosent have the type of resources to commit on such a program, at least not in the short run. They have much bigger priorities to focus on right now, like rebuilding and recolonizing.

Unless Halo 4 takes place various decades later, it'd be impossible for Spartan IV's to even exist.


The IV's do exist, though from the sound of it, they're cheaper and easier to produce then even the IIIs. It basically sounds like a simple matter of pumping a willing Marine full of chems and voila, instant SIV. They're no where near as costly as the II's and III's since the above is basically all that's needed. They use willing military volunteers instead of children, and nearly all training is taken care of already. We've known for a while now Ackerson's plan for SIII was to have the augments be more widely distributed. But with him dead, the program changed direction substantially, warrenting the new generation number, as opposed to a Spartan III generation 2 for example.

Anyway, assuming the IV's are basically just Marines with super strength and speed, I don't think it'd detract as much from the Chief. It can really only make the Marines more useful, and actually have a canonical reason for the UNSC's ability to fight the Ancient Evil.

[Edited on 12.02.2011 3:56 PM PST]

  • 12.02.2011 3:55 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

If the Forerunners couldn't do it, I doubt some juiced up Marines will do any better.

  • 12.02.2011 3:57 PM PDT

Posted by:ScubaToaster
Posted by: HipiO7
This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

Posted by: ROBERTO jh
Posted by: HipiO7
No. The UNSC dosent have the type of resources to commit on such a program, at least not in the short run. They have much bigger priorities to focus on right now, like rebuilding and recolonizing.

Unless Halo 4 takes place various decades later, it'd be impossible for Spartan IV's to even exist.


The IV's do exist, though from the sound of it, they're cheaper and easier to produce then even the IIIs. It basically sounds like a simple matter of pumping a willing Marine full of chems and voila, instant SIV. They're no where near as costly as the II's and III's since the above is basically all that's needed. They use willing military volunteers instead of children, and nearly all training is taken care of already. We've known for a while now Ackerson's plan for SIII was to have the augments be more widely distributed. But with him dead, the program changed direction substantially, warrenting the new generation number, as opposed to a Spartan III generation 2 for example.

Anyway, assuming the IV's are basically just Marines with super strength and speed, I don't think it'd detract as much from the Chief. It can really only make the Marines more useful, and actually have a canonical reason for the UNSC's ability to fight the Ancient Evil.


I still wouldint consider them Spartan's though. Willing troopers isnt the same as trained since a very young age.

And I guess I need to get my hands on Glasslands, yes?

  • 12.02.2011 3:58 PM PDT


Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: HipiO7
No. The UNSC dosent have the type of resources to commit on such a program, at least not in the short run. They have much bigger priorities to focus on right now, like rebuilding and recolonizing.

Unless Halo 4 takes place various decades later, it'd be impossible for Spartan IV's to even exist.


The IV's do exist, though from the sound of it, they're cheaper and easier to produce then even the IIIs. It basically sounds like a simple matter of pumping a willing Marine full of chems and voila, instant SIV. They're no where near as costly as the II's and III's since the above is basically all that's needed. They use willing military volunteers instead of children, and nearly all training is taken care of already. We've known for a while now Ackerson's plan for SIII was to have the augments be more widely distributed. But with him dead, the program changed direction substantially, warrenting the new generation number, as opposed to a Spartan III generation 2 for example.

Anyway, assuming the IV's are basically just Marines with super strength and speed, I don't think it'd detract as much from the Chief. It can really only make the Marines more useful, and actually have a canonical reason for the UNSC's ability to fight the Ancient Evil.


that wouldnt make much sense though, as it is stated that Spartan III's went under augmentations to become Spartan IV's. So it has to be an upgrade from Spartan III of some sort. If it were true, then that would put them on the level of pure force the Spartan II's have.

[Edited on 12.02.2011 4:06 PM PST]

  • 12.02.2011 4:05 PM PDT


Posted by: HipiO7
Posted by: ROBERTO jh
Posted by: HipiO7
No. The UNSC dosent have the type of resources to commit on such a program, at least not in the short run. They have much bigger priorities to focus on right now, like rebuilding and recolonizing.

Unless Halo 4 takes place various decades later, it'd be impossible for Spartan IV's to even exist.


The IV's do exist, though from the sound of it, they're cheaper and easier to produce then even the IIIs. It basically sounds like a simple matter of pumping a willing Marine full of chems and voila, instant SIV. They're no where near as costly as the II's and III's since the above is basically all that's needed. They use willing military volunteers instead of children, and nearly all training is taken care of already. We've known for a while now Ackerson's plan for SIII was to have the augments be more widely distributed. But with him dead, the program changed direction substantially, warrenting the new generation number, as opposed to a Spartan III generation 2 for example.

Anyway, assuming the IV's are basically just Marines with super strength and speed, I don't think it'd detract as much from the Chief. It can really only make the Marines more useful, and actually have a canonical reason for the UNSC's ability to fight the Ancient Evil.


I still wouldint consider them Spartan's though. Willing troopers isnt the same as trained since a very young age.

And I guess I need to get my hands on Glasslands, yes?


I take the term Spartan to be a term applied to any superhuman in the UNSC.

And yes, Glasslands explains all this.


Posted by: FISHYburned

Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: HipiO7
No. The UNSC dosent have the type of resources to commit on such a program, at least not in the short run. They have much bigger priorities to focus on right now, like rebuilding and recolonizing.

Unless Halo 4 takes place various decades later, it'd be impossible for Spartan IV's to even exist.


The IV's do exist, though from the sound of it, they're cheaper and easier to produce then even the IIIs. It basically sounds like a simple matter of pumping a willing Marine full of chems and voila, instant SIV. They're no where near as costly as the II's and III's since the above is basically all that's needed. They use willing military volunteers instead of children, and nearly all training is taken care of already. We've known for a while now Ackerson's plan for SIII was to have the augments be more widely distributed. But with him dead, the program changed direction substantially, warrenting the new generation number, as opposed to a Spartan III generation 2 for example.

Anyway, assuming the IV's are basically just Marines with super strength and speed, I don't think it'd detract as much from the Chief. It can really only make the Marines more useful, and actually have a canonical reason for the UNSC's ability to fight the Ancient Evil.


that wouldnt make much sense though, as it is stated that Spartan III's went under augmentations to become Spartan IV's. So it has to be an upgrade from Spartan III of some sort. If it were true, then that would put them on the level of pure force the Spartan II's have.


All it it said was that the IIIs were going to be rotated into the IV program. We know the IVs have been working on Infinity so perhaps the surviving III's are also on Infinity now with the IVs.

  • 12.02.2011 4:11 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

I still find it really odd that ONI is going back to the failed ideas of ORION. Gamma Company was still using children and I find the idea of ONI making a huge breakthrough so quickly.

  • 12.02.2011 4:14 PM PDT

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra
I still find it really odd that ONI is going back to the failed ideas of ORION. Gamma Company was still using children and I find the idea of ONI making a huge breakthrough so quickly.


And now Spartans are getting the 'clone trooper treatment'... :/

  • 12.02.2011 4:20 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
I still find it really odd that ONI is going back to the failed ideas of ORION. Gamma Company was still using children and I find the idea of ONI making a huge breakthrough so quickly.


I don't recall reading about any problems with the Orion project. I checked on Halopedian just now, and it said its only major short comings were the Orions just simply not being as effective as the cost would imply. There wasn't really any thing wrong with the concept itself. But that was over 50 years ago, and we've had two other super soldier generations and that much more time and research poured into making augmentations cheaper and more reliable. We know that this was essentially Ackerson's goal from day 1, so it doesn't really come as a surprise that it happened.

We never had any problems with his plans then, I don't get why we have a problem with them now.

[Edited on 12.02.2011 4:22 PM PST]

  • 12.02.2011 4:21 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

It was implied that the program had a lot of deaths.

  • 12.02.2011 4:25 PM PDT

Haha, I win, you lose. End.

It would be nice for new characters in Halo... like the Noble Team

Yep.

  • 12.02.2011 4:51 PM PDT