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Subject: Spartan IV's in Halo 4?

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Posted by: grey101

Posted by: SteroidKloud
It would be hard to explain how repair nanomachines can change the armors look and function.


Um that would be far easier to explain than having Spartan IVs and "The covenant"(which no longer exists) in the game.

As i said half of it is explained from it being a new game, if anything that will be enough for the majority. Nobody said anything about chief getting different gloves and the arby changing looks from halo 2-3.


Every body said something about Chiefs gloves. I still have a magazine from when the Announcement trailer just got released. The major complaint was "How did he get new armor from Halo 2 - 3". Because he was in the ship. They were also guessing that he might be wearing MK VII because of the change.

I don't know about Arbiter.

I don't think it would be easier to explain. How can Nanomites possibly create something? How? If they can create a new armor and armor functions then that means they can create weapons and everything else which hasn't been the case.

It is easier to say "The covenant are still around but trying to rebuild, there are still believers". Spartan IV's were created just like MC, there is no explanation needed.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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I said Gloves not the armor as a whole (which was just graphics).

What are they creating? All they are doing is repairing the armor in slipspace which is going to make it look different with an artistic change.

You would have to give the "covenant" a role in a forerunner based story. Which would degrade the story overall seeing how i am sure alot of new content is going to be brought in. And majority of the gamers don't even think chief is human so again it would have to be explained.

  • 12.03.2011 1:01 PM PDT

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Posted by: grey101
I said Gloves not the armor as a whole (which was just graphics).

What are they creating? All they are doing is repairing the armor in slipspace which is going to make it look different with an artistic change.

You would have to give the "covenant" a role in a forerunner based story. Which would degrade the story overall seeing how i am sure alot of new content is going to be brought in. And majority of the gamers don't even think chief is human so again it would have to be explained.


Franky said that the armor will have different functions and HUD. I was there in person when he said that at PAX. So how can nanomachines do that? There cannot possibly be technology advanced as that being made my the UNSC, or ONI.

Yes the covenant would degrade it. That is why I would rather no explanation for nanomites than a 110 percent fitting explanation for the Covenant to be in Halo 4.

I'm just saying that, anything is possible and that Nanomites can't do such things.

Sorry for long reply's and rushed ones. I am on a different PC because my other keeps shutting off and freezing. The buttons o this one are jammed in.

  • 12.03.2011 1:13 PM PDT

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There might be Spartan IV's in the ending, but I doubt it.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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Posted by: SteroidKloud
Posted by: grey101
I said Gloves not the armor as a whole (which was just graphics).

What are they creating? All they are doing is repairing the armor in slipspace which is going to make it look different with an artistic change.

You would have to give the "covenant" a role in a forerunner based story. Which would degrade the story overall seeing how i am sure alot of new content is going to be brought in. And majority of the gamers don't even think chief is human so again it would have to be explained.


Franky said that the armor will have different functions and HUD. I was there in person when he said that at PAX. So how can nanomachines do that? There cannot possibly be technology advanced as that being made my the UNSC, or ONI.

Yes the covenant would degrade it. That is why I would rather no explanation for nanomites than a 110 percent fitting explanation for the Covenant to be in Halo 4.

I'm just saying that, anything is possible and that Nanomites can't do such things.

Sorry for long reply's and rushed ones. I am on a different PC because my other keeps shutting off and freezing. The buttons o this one are jammed in.


That can be done with nanomachines changing the armor, functions could be like the thruster pack, and we don't know if we get some forerunner upgrade.

  • 12.04.2011 1:08 PM PDT

Don't -blam!- with Kerser!

Posted by: grey101

Posted by: SteroidKloud
Posted by: grey101
I said Gloves not the armor as a whole (which was just graphics).

What are they creating? All they are doing is repairing the armor in slipspace which is going to make it look different with an artistic change.

You would have to give the "covenant" a role in a forerunner based story. Which would degrade the story overall seeing how i am sure alot of new content is going to be brought in. And majority of the gamers don't even think chief is human so again it would have to be explained.


Franky said that the armor will have different functions and HUD. I was there in person when he said that at PAX. So how can nanomachines do that? There cannot possibly be technology advanced as that being made my the UNSC, or ONI.

Yes the covenant would degrade it. That is why I would rather no explanation for nanomites than a 110 percent fitting explanation for the Covenant to be in Halo 4.

I'm just saying that, anything is possible and that Nanomites can't do such things.

Sorry for long reply's and rushed ones. I am on a different PC because my other keeps shutting off and freezing. The buttons o this one are jammed in.


That can be done with nanomachines changing the armor, functions could be like the thruster pack, and we don't know if we get some forerunner upgrade.


Oh, man. Finally you replied. You did this to me last time.

But yeh. We will see.

  • 12.04.2011 1:15 PM PDT

Personally I'd like to see a new console with Halo 4 so game enhancements that are limited on the current generation xbox would see the light of day.

Features such as Spartans having more enemies to fight in the environment around you, not just teaming up for the immediate in front of you enemies.

This way game play would be expanded to include Spartan IV's or other engagements occurring while you play without making things easy.

See the current generation limitations, on say legendary, made your team useless so you had to deal with the threats yourself. With a new generation of xbox things could ramp up in character numbers, true AI and environmental engagements not directly with your engagement area etc.

Imagine the Reach generators described in the Fall of Reach book. Now imagine the next generation xbox and Halo 4. That's more the sort of game play I envisage.

TL;DR - Yes I'd like to see Spartan IV's in Halo 4 but I'd like to see the step up to next generation hardware and game engine development.

The sheer level of graphical details, engagements, AI, RPG style real-world events etc. would all lead to game of the year and a true innovation driving the next platform and Halo.

Hopefully Ms & 343i have had the vision and will deliver with the next trilogy.

  • 12.04.2011 4:04 PM PDT

havent read the book but people are saying that ONI is making the spartan 4's without using kids and doing like that did wih the first super soilder project and getting experienced people..... if so first people that came to mind, Buck and rookie

  • 12.04.2011 4:24 PM PDT

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Posted by: SteroidKloud
Well they were stationed on the Infinity, The Infinity is still there. Why would they hop on another ship and leave?


Can't possibly have anything to do with a new war with rebels or whatever attacked the Elites.

  • 12.04.2011 7:10 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: SteroidKloud
Well they were stationed on the Infinity, The Infinity is still there. Why would they hop on another ship and leave?


Can't possibly have anything to do with a new war with rebels or whatever attacked the Elites.


Knowing the new track record of ONI, I predict Spartan IV's won't come out and be helpful at least until after the new threat is dead.

  • 12.04.2011 7:11 PM PDT

All of these posts seem to assume we know when Halo IV takes place. But really, we have no idea. Master Chief has been cryogenically frozen, so it could be years and years later. The only indicator to the time is that we know AIs dont live more than like 7 years I think, but Cortana is a special AI, and maybe she shut herself down or something to live longer.
I think it wouldn't be too difficult for 343 to make plot devices so that Halo IV pretty far in the future.

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  • 12.04.2011 7:51 PM PDT

In the book, it talks about Spartan Armor that changes in a Cryo-Pod, like the one Master Chief is in. Forgot if it was assigned to the Spartan IVs or not but that's just one of the things I remember.

If we were to see Kurt, Linda, and/ or Kelly on Onyx in Halo 4, maybe they would be the side-characters for co-op campaign. Them or Spartan IVs.

  • 12.04.2011 8:04 PM PDT

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Posted by: JSjackal
All of these posts seem to assume we know when Halo IV takes place. But really, we have no idea. Master Chief has been cryogenically frozen, so it could be years and years later. The only indicator to the time is that we know AIs dont live more than like 7 years I think, but Cortana is a special AI, and maybe she shut herself down or something to live longer.
I think it wouldn't be too difficult for 343 to make plot devices so that Halo IV pretty far in the future.


Frank O'Conner said they had 10 years of the Halo lore mapped out and that Halo 4 is a few years after Halo 3. Doesn't give any concrete answer, but it's something.

  • 12.04.2011 8:11 PM PDT

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Posted by: Infam0usKidz
In the book, it talks about Spartan Armor that changes in a Cryo-Pod, like the one Master Chief is in. Forgot if it was assigned to the Spartan IVs or not but that's just one of the things I remember.

If we were to see Kurt, Linda, and/ or Kelly on Onyx in Halo 4, maybe they would be the side-characters for co-op campaign. Them or Spartan IVs.


Okay, I hate to be that guy, but do you even know what you're saying?

1. Where is it stated Chief has the armor with nontech that Naomi has? It has never been mentioned Chief's Mk.VI suit has nanotech, but Naomi's Mk.VII does have it.

2. Kurt is dead.

3. Onyx isn't going to be in Halo 4.

  • 12.04.2011 8:14 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra

Posted by: JSjackal
All of these posts seem to assume we know when Halo IV takes place. But really, we have no idea. Master Chief has been cryogenically frozen, so it could be years and years later. The only indicator to the time is that we know AIs dont live more than like 7 years I think, but Cortana is a special AI, and maybe she shut herself down or something to live longer.
I think it wouldn't be too difficult for 343 to make plot devices so that Halo IV pretty far in the future.


Frank O'Conner said they had 10 years of the Halo lore mapped out and that Halo 4 is a few years after Halo 3. Doesn't give any concrete answer, but it's something.


Throwing my two cents here, I don't think they'd introduce Spartan IV's in Halo 4. Maybe in 5 or 6 if they make them.

Off topic: I Feel like we've talked about Spartan IV's before.

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Posted by: grey101
More spartans in the game would take away from chief,so no.

Well the spartens could be from Master Chief's old Blue team, like Fred,Linda,Kelly,etc.(not all of Blue team because some are dead.)

  • 12.05.2011 6:30 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: Infam0usKidz
In the book, it talks about Spartan Armor that changes in a Cryo-Pod, like the one Master Chief is in. Forgot if it was assigned to the Spartan IVs or not but that's just one of the things I remember.

If we were to see Kurt, Linda, and/ or Kelly on Onyx in Halo 4, maybe they would be the side-characters for co-op campaign. Them or Spartan IVs.


Okay, I hate to be that guy, but do you even know what you're saying?

1. Where is it stated Chief has the armor with nontech that Naomi has? It has never been mentioned Chief's Mk.VI suit has nanotech, but Naomi's Mk.VII does have it.

2. Kurt is dead.

3. Onyx isn't going to be in Halo 4.


1. I never said Master Chief has the armor, I was talking about the cryo pod he's in.

2. "If we were"

3. It might, nothing says for sure.

  • 12.05.2011 7:51 PM PDT

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Posted by: Unggoy NL
Spartan IV's are possible but I would like it more to see Fred, Kelly and the other Spartan II's and Spartan III's.


That's the most likely explaination for any other UNSC presence that might be there.

  • 12.06.2011 1:09 PM PDT

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Posted by: NAStheMagiking
You can have fellow Spartans, and still have 'Chief the main man.

This. If you guys seriously can't follow Chief's story AND some minor side stories of other miscellaneous characters, there's something wrong. I don't know what 343 is planning but I feel that they'll almost need to add different characters into this game in order to better develop Chief as a character. Seriously, it's a pretty basic philosophy of storytelling. We'll need these other characters to help better highlight the strengths and weaknesses of the Chief. Also, I really like stories that introduce different characters with varying personalities, it helps the plot from becoming stale.

  • 12.06.2011 2:03 PM PDT

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Doubtful. This trilogy is about Master Chief and Cortana only.

Also; Nanotechnology has been in the Halo for while, it was rarely implied until Glasslands such implied that Mark VI and VII had nanotechnology.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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Posted by: JSjackal
All of these posts seem to assume we know when Halo IV takes place.


It is around 3-4 years later since cortana will be 7.

  • 12.06.2011 2:19 PM PDT

That could end up being interesting.

  • 12.06.2011 4:15 PM PDT


Posted by: Bus00
Keep it focused on chief. He's the only real character who anyone should care about. I was disgusted at the fact that soooo many people liked noble 6. They were like "oh noble 6 would wreck chief in a fight!!!!"

who cares!!!! He's chief! He doesn't lose just cause he's chief! Halo reach was a twist and I respected it, but come on....Chief is all we need.


You know what disgusts me........ ?

YOU.

  • 12.07.2011 2:21 AM PDT


Posted by: RadicalPalomino

Posted by: NAStheMagiking
You can have fellow Spartans, and still have 'Chief the main man.

This. If you guys seriously can't follow Chief's story AND some minor side stories of other miscellaneous characters, there's something wrong. I don't know what 343 is planning but I feel that they'll almost need to add different characters into this game in order to better develop Chief as a character. Seriously, it's a pretty basic philosophy of storytelling. We'll need these other characters to help better highlight the strengths and weaknesses of the Chief. Also, I really like stories that introduce different characters with varying personalities, it helps the plot from becoming stale.


This. They killed alot of characters in halo 3 so since its a new trilogy they need to introduce some likable people that they can expand the plot with or have some dramatic deaths with in the 5th and 6th games. This is just me but i would love for buck to become the new Johnson-Complete badass and chiefs partner.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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Posted by: RadicalPalomino

Posted by: NAStheMagiking
You can have fellow Spartans, and still have 'Chief the main man.

This. If you guys seriously can't follow Chief's story AND some minor side stories of other miscellaneous characters, there's something wrong. I don't know what 343 is planning but I feel that they'll almost need to add different characters into this game in order to better develop Chief as a character. Seriously, it's a pretty basic philosophy of storytelling. We'll need these other characters to help better highlight the strengths and weaknesses of the Chief. Also, I really like stories that introduce different characters with varying personalities, it helps the plot from becoming stale.


This. They killed alot of characters in halo 3 so since its a new trilogy they need to introduce some likable people that they can expand the plot with or have some dramatic deaths with in the 5th and 6th games. This is just me but i would love for buck to become the new Johnson-Complete badass and chiefs partner.


If the forerunners are going to be involved I am sure they are going to interact with the chief. And from the primordium summary it is inferred that chakas will have a role also. You are shallow for thinking that it only takes human characters to develop a human.

Can somebody explain to me how johnson is a "Badass"? I feel like people only make him out to be a badass because he is some old black guy that has a personality. The most "Badass" thing johnson has done in the trilogy was drive the scarab. Other than that he hasn't done anything. Same For buck.


Again, call me an ass but I think anybody who claims johnson or buck as "Badass" must be a child.

[Edited on 12.07.2011 1:14 PM PST]

  • 12.07.2011 1:13 PM PDT