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Subject: Excuses for Reach MM population being so low


Posted by: Confederateghad
Did I need to? You clearly missed the point. The point was that reach is bad and the only excuse all the halo fanboys can find without saying reach is bad, is that other games are taking most of the population. Halo 3 had tougher competition from more games and had a higher population after 3 years than Reach does now.

It's not a valid reason, it's just an excuse.

Reach is awful.


It is a very valid excuse. Halo 3 never had this tough of competition. It faced a new, unpolished CoD4, a new, unpolished Gears of War, and that's it. Halo, at the time, had been the only game to really do online right and have time to polish that further in Halo 3. It was the only good game at the time. By the time it was an older game, MW2 came out and took that away. People started flocking to it because it offered casual, easy, drop in, drop out gameplay. Other good online games started to establish themselves too such as Battlefield's Bad Company, and Gears 3 was in the making.

Now that Reach emerged, many developers had time to really figure out online gameplay. Between MW2, Black Ops, MW3, Battlefield 3, Skyrim, Assassins Creed: Brotherhood/Revalations, Gears 3, and others I probably missed, there are tons of new games which all have good online play. Halo 3 never dealt with that many major titles and Halo 3 never dealt with the fact that the masses switched flavors away from competitive, difficult gameplay to uncompetitive casual gameplay.

If population means a game is bad/uncompetitive to you, then MW3/Black Ops must be the best, most competitive games in the world. If you seriously think either are, then you're a bigger idiot than you already look like.

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Posted by: Confederateghad
The reason Reach has a dwindling population is because IT'S A BAD GAME.

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Posted by: zuboy
this.
Posted by: Confederateghad
The reason Reach has a dwindling population is because IT'S A BAD GAME.


i dissagree, the reason that reach has a dwindling population is because there are better games now.

  • 12.03.2011 10:01 AM PDT

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'Cause Reach is old.

  • 12.03.2011 10:04 AM PDT


Posted by: Confederateghad
You can't be serious.

CoD3 & CoD4
World at War
MW2
GoW & GoW2
BF2
Elder Scrolls IV
Fable 2
Rockband

And several others.

Keep defending reach with that excuse. It's not a valid reason.

The reason Reach has a dwindling population is because IT'S A BAD GAME.

In this order:
1) unpolished & bad/Good, but unpolished and new so it didn't last.
2) terrible
3) beat Halo 3 but it came out two years after it
4) both were terrible
5) came out the same year as Reach did so can hardly be considered Halo 3 competition, but it did establish Battlefield in the online gameplay so Battlefield 3 could compete against Reach
6) Oblivion didn't last at all online, but established Elder Scrolls so more would care about Skyrim. It also had little multiplayer so it didn't take much from Reach, especially since by the time Reach came out it was roughly four years old
7) lol Like Fable would take away from a FPS's multiplayer when it itself has little to none
8) lol Like Rockband would take away from a FPS's audience when it's not even a shooter.

Reach dealt with MW2 already being established and strong, Black Ops riding on that, MW3 riding on that, Battlefield: Bad Company 2, Battlefield 3, Gears 3 actually being a good game, Skyrim being massive and loved by all, Batman/Assassins Creed being massive when it came out, etc.

Very few of the games you mentioned actually had the hype that the games I listed now did, and those you mentioned that were big (Gears 1/2, for example) sucked after release because the multiplayer was terrible.

The games I mentioned all released with strong hype AND online gameplay, so Reach's population fell accordingly.

Reach is still populated and #7 on the board and RISING a year later. It's not a bad game or it would be off the top 20. Keep trying though. Your easy to knock off arguments might pose a challenge eventually.

  • 12.03.2011 10:08 AM PDT


Posted by: Confederateghad
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If population means a game is bad/uncompetitive to you, then MW3/Black Ops must be the best, most competitive games in the world. If you seriously think either are, then you're a bigger idiot than you already look like.

Way to put words in my mouth. I never said anything to that extent, nor did I imply it.


Posted by: Confederateghad

The reason Reach has a dwindling population is because IT'S A BAD GAME.


O RLY?

  • 12.03.2011 10:11 AM PDT

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I think MM will be slow possibly due to internet connection speeds and providers. You also have options to customize you MM settings such as psyche profile and search restrictions witch may also limit your searches, making it harder to find possible matches. Also depending on the population in a particular playlist will also make your chance of finding opponents slim.

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Posted by: Confederateghad
Posted by: burritosenior
Posted by: Confederateghad
Game competition is not a legitimate reason for the games MM being so low. This is the number one excuse I see used to explain why MM has such low numbers. Like, you can't be serious. If you use that reason, which is really just an excuse, for Reach; stop it.
I like Halo: Reach. Halo: Reach is a good game.


I haven't put it in but once in months. Because I've been playing newer games that just came out.

Wow you look pretty silly now, don't you?

So a single persons actions reflect the entire population...

You're so dumb it's disheartening to know people take you serious.

If you think he is the only one to move on to better games then you must have serious brain damage.

[Edited on 12.03.2011 10:24 AM PST]

  • 12.03.2011 10:23 AM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

Reasons the population is low:

There are much better games to play.

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OP, u mad?


'Cause that is half of the excuse. The other half is that all these new games that aren't even a year old are here, so who do you think is gonna shine?

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Posted by: Confederateghad
Call me when Reach is still in your precious top 20 after 4 years like H3.


Well we all know it wont cause Halo 4 is coming out in a year and so is another CoD game. Reach will probably be 15-20 on the population charts, if even that.

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Posted by: dahuterschuter
Reasons the population is low:

There are much newer games to play.


fix'd. Only reason Reach is not in the top 5 is because new games have come out. It just passed GoW3, meaning that 'better' games isn't the only way to read the chart

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Posted by: Confederateghad
The reason Reach has a dwindling population is because IT'S A BAD GAME.

You say that with such authority.

I think it's awesome.

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Posted by: burritosenior

Posted by: Confederateghad
Game competition is not a legitimate reason for the games MM being so low. This is the number one excuse I see used to explain why MM has such low numbers. Like, you can't be serious. If you use that reason, which is really just an excuse, for Reach; stop it.
I like Halo: Reach. Halo: Reach is a good game.

I haven't put it in but once in months. Because I've been playing newer games that just came out.

Wow you look pretty silly now, don't you?
I would play Halo over any other game out if Reach wasn't such an abomination to the Halo franchise. Now who looks silly?

At least 343 has made it some what playable over the last couple months.

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Halo 3 also had to deal with Gears 2, CoD 4-MW2, ME/2, and multiple other titles. Guess which one consistently came out on top? Halo 3, with MW2 above it by not much. But it never went under second.

lolreach is in 6th. To a Fifa title, and a 2 year old CoD game Halo 3 nearly beat out multiple times.

It's been 4 years since Halo 3's release. Last year was three, and it was still in the top 10.
Posted by: Confederateghad
H3 after 3 years > Reach after 1 and H3 had better competition.

Reason (excuse) not valid.


[Edited on 12.03.2011 10:34 AM PST]

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Posted by: Confederateghad
That doesn't make the opposite true though. People like recycled crap like modern warfare.

Way to try and put words in my mouth to support your dumb argument.


Had you read my post, I didn't put words in your mouth. I said IF you think that way. I never said you certainly do. You just seemed like you did, and I replied accordingly.


Posted by: Confederateghad
Being top 20 doesn't make a game good by any means. By the way nice use of "your." lol

Your blatant fanboyism is showing. Halo 3 had tougher competition and more in 3 years than Reach has had in a year and it's population was still higher than Reach's.

Call me when Reach is still in your precious top 20 after 4 years like H3.


Care to point out how I misused "your"? I intentionally used it in a possessive sense in reference to YOUR statement. I used it correctly.

Also, it's not fanboyism to say that Reach has tougher competition. Nobody cared about the games in Halo 3's life because they were either unpolished or bad. Modern Warfare the first was a shallow game. You could have fun killing and whatnot, but there wasn't much variety in guns, killstreaks, rewards, etc. Modern Warfare 2/3 and Black Ops expanded upon that to make the game contain MUCH more variety and they tried to balance it. They kept the casual gameplay and drop-in drop out matchmaking and people love it.

Halo 3 went up against unpolished games with either new, or little to no online multiplayer to take away from its own.

Reach has gone up against several titles which have very fun online multiplayer so it is losing out. It's also going up against some action adventure titles with hype on their side so for a while it is losing to those as well.

The fact Reach still has enough population over a year later shows it is still well received by Halo fans. It wouldn't still be in the top games if people hated it as much as you.

Hate the game all you want, but just because you think it's bad doesn't mean that all your groundless reasons for its "failure" are true.

[Edited on 12.03.2011 10:40 AM PST]

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Posted by: Confederateghad
Posted by: burritosenior
Posted by: Confederateghad
Game competition is not a legitimate reason for the games MM being so low. This is the number one excuse I see used to explain why MM has such low numbers. Like, you can't be serious. If you use that reason, which is really just an excuse, for Reach; stop it.
I like Halo: Reach. Halo: Reach is a good game.

I haven't put it in but once in months. Because I've been playing newer games that just came out.

Wow you look pretty silly now, don't you?

So a single persons actions reflect the entire population...

You're so dumb it's disheartening to know people take you serious.

Here OP.

  • 12.03.2011 10:40 AM PDT

Posted by: CultMiester4000
I'm not really an Apple person (Bananas forever) but damn, that's kinda sad.

^lol trolls

Thinking that Halo 3 had the same competition as Reach XD

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It's cause the game is poop.

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