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Posted by: spawn031
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I see you point with your posts. However there is one common flaw with it. These moderators aren't getting paid for their services here. This is pure volunteer work. If, however, this was much more highly organized and such perhaps more moderators could be undertaken to cover all forums in primetime for all timezones, then you could expect every forum to be covered.

The way the moderation is now though isn't to far a field from the ideal though. Usually threads that need locking and banning are done within 30 minutes or so of being posted.


Unless a mod is actually on the forum or a lot of people hit report, it can take longer than 30 minutes for some of the more popular ones.

It's because it's a volunteer role that more are needed, and giving them specific forums to look after could make it worthwhile. There was a time two weeks ago where multiple folks were posting racist comments in a post about a video from Allworldhiphop. I and multiples reported it, yet it took almost 4 hours before it was moderated, despite one person who reported the thread posting a link to it in a Community Forum thread a mod was actively participated in and asked why nothing had been done.

Additionally, it took about two hours for this troll to finally have posts deleted. A large part of it has to do with many people in the Flood not "disagreeing" with this type of content, along with the report button being used to "harass" people certain posters don't like, but there's a pretty good case to make that moderating needs to be rethought in some fashion (possibly using the vBulletin rank of Mods, SuperMods and Admin, for example); this is only one suggestion - I'm sure others have equally valid suggestions for revamps.

That may be an example of a mod not paying much attention, but it also goes to the idea that they're here as volunteers to have fun - giving them 13 forums to work on simultaneously may not be the most effective method of utilization. Hence my suggestion.

  • 12.03.2011 6:43 PM PDT

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Of course, most of that list relies less on Bungie's influence than our own.

On Bungie's end, I'd simply like to see something similar to this for Member Titles (and see an see expansion on thoughts here).

And if not that, then at least something like this if Bungie's going the direction I'm hoping they will with Destiny.

  • 12.03.2011 6:55 PM PDT

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Posted by: SonicJohn
I was actually thinking about direct linking your first link in the original OP. Then I realized you might post it anyways. :P

I'll add it in!

  • 12.03.2011 7:04 PM PDT

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  • 12.03.2011 7:12 PM PDT

Citizens of Me! The cruelty of the old Pharaoh is a thing of the past. Let a whole new wave of cruelty wash over this lazy land.

Hear the word of Pharaoh. Build unto me a statue of ridiculous proportion. One billion cubits in height......that I might be remembered for all eternity!

And be quick about it!

I agree with making it somehow possible to change your username, I wish I could change mine. But how would they do it? What special instances would allow you to change it?

  • 12.03.2011 7:13 PM PDT

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  • 12.03.2011 7:23 PM PDT

I think Achronos and the web team discussed 29 many, many times. Despite everyone's mixed feelings about the Flood, I think it will stay. Then again, it is their website, so they're free to break their word with the flick of a button.

  • 12.03.2011 8:24 PM PDT

I think it would be more useful - just in my opinion - if you don't try to suggest changes or additions to what currently exists, but instead think about what you would like to exist and would like to have.

For example, someone suggested more ninjas to, presumably, remove unwanted content faster. If that's true, then why not a user-specific function that lets them "moderate" themselves by hiding any content they don't want to see.

That's the kind of thing I'm talking about. It doesn't exist, but IMO, would be a far better solution to an existing problem.

  • 12.03.2011 8:49 PM PDT

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Posted by: dazarobbo
I think it would be more useful - just in my opinion - if you don't try to suggest changes or additions to what currently exists, but instead think about what you would like to exist and would like to have.

For example, someone suggested more ninjas to, presumably, remove unwanted content faster. If that's true, then why not a user-specific function that lets them "moderate" themselves by hiding any content they don't want to see.

That's the kind of thing I'm talking about. It doesn't exist, but IMO, would be a far better solution to an existing problem.
That doesn't remove the content though. And [bad] content removal is a moderator's job. If we hide it for ourselves, its still viewable by everyone else who hasn't "hidden" it.thus resulting in the problem still existing. If there were more moderators, then there would be more [bad] content REMOVAL, thus nullifying and voiding the need to hide it for ourselves exclusively, and not the community at large.

  • 12.03.2011 8:58 PM PDT
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1. The option to change your username once
2. More titlebar colors
3. New avatar options that are actually different than the others.

  • 12.03.2011 9:08 PM PDT

Here's an idea. Create a way to quickly and easily delete previous posts - for good. Not archive them but permanently delete them. If another user quotes a post you deemed perma-deleted, then it deletes the quoted portion as well.

Also, I'd suggest adding buttons for text formatting. It should auto-insert the italic, bold, underline, etc around the highlighted text. If no text is selected, it should insert it at line 0.

[Edited on 12.03.2011 9:20 PM PST]

  • 12.03.2011 9:11 PM PDT


Posted by: JMcDon15
1. The option to change your username once
2. More titlebar colors
3. New avatar options that are actually different than the others.


I second number 3. Didn't the community make a whole bunch of new avatars awhile back? If I remember correctly, it was for a star nameplate, back when they meant something. I'm not sure if Bungie ever added them to the pool though...

  • 12.03.2011 9:13 PM PDT

I'm awesome...No seriously I am.

I second number 7, but the Image Board should be in its own section. That way its your choice and your choice only to view what other people post, just for safety reasons.

We could even name it something generic like the "Bungie Image Board". Of course other people could come up with names for it, but that one could be a starter.

  • 12.03.2011 9:41 PM PDT
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Posted by: spartain ken 15
be able to change your sign in info


Objection!
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  • 12.03.2011 9:46 PM PDT

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Posted by: Waffle

Posted by: spartain ken 15
be able to change your sign in info


Objection!
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But not the email associated with your Bungie.net account.

  • 12.03.2011 9:46 PM PDT
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Posted by: Waffle

Posted by: spartain ken 15
be able to change your sign in info


Objection!
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But not the email associated with your Bungie.net account.

Hmmm true. Well I don't see it even being possible.
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  • 12.03.2011 9:50 PM PDT
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"It's not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me."

I like most of the idea's posted in this thread, but there are some I want to comment on:
5. Link to live feed of Bungie's official Twitter on main page?
9. See join date underneath users avatar. Before it was changed!
13. Revamping the Classfields forum.
15. Removing the Halo game forums? - New IP and project from Bungie
17. "Permalink" option for particular users posts.
37. More Moderators/Forum Ninjas or Ninjas devoted to specific forums?

The live feed is posted on the front page...it may take a second to load, but it's there (albeit it could be bigger and load quicker)

Join dates were taken away because users used them to undermine others that had joined after them. "You joined in 2008 so your opinion doesn't matter." It's much like the current trend of users using your K/D ratio against you. Titles are somewhat like this, but it's not as bad as when the join dates were underneath our avatars...and definitely not as bad as when our post count was underneath the avatars.

The Classifieds Forum is currently being revamped..it will take time though.

The Halo forums will stay for a long while, but Bungie will still add new forums for their latest games.

You actually can link to a particular post. Just reply to that post and at the top it will say "postID." Copy that number and go to a thread and paste that number in where the other number is. Like this.

More moderators can always be a good thing, but it's rather slow right now so I don't think we'll be getting new ones until the veil is lifted from Bungie. In the mean time, I must say that we are volunteers. We are not paid, and do this in our own free time. Since we are only volunteers, we are not given a set schedule. We aren't given a quota or told to moderate only a certain forum. Until we are given jobs (lol), this will not change.

  • 12.03.2011 9:51 PM PDT

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Posted by: Duardo
The live feed is posted on the front page...it may take a second to load, but it's there (albeit it could be bigger and load quicker)
Allow me to direct you to the sidebar area of the News page :)

  • 12.03.2011 9:55 PM PDT

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Posted by: SonicJohn

Posted by: Duardo
The live feed is posted on the front page...it may take a second to load, but it's there (albeit it could be bigger and load quicker)
Allow me to direct you to the sidebar area of the News page :)
Looks sloppy :\

All the text is out of line and whatnot.

  • 12.03.2011 9:56 PM PDT

But, as with your thread, the postID method is not efficient. The pageNumber#postID is more accurate; your thread is janked up now, and postID doesn't work for it.
Posted by: Duardo
You actually can link to a particular post. Just reply to that post and at the top it will say "postID." Copy that number and go to a thread and paste that number in where the other number is. Like this.

  • 12.03.2011 10:03 PM PDT

Still better than you.

.....most of you, at least.

I'd like larger amounts of quotes to be nested, or maybe a feature that automatically puts the post your quoting at the top of your post, but it only includes nested quotes if you mouse over.

  • 12.03.2011 10:16 PM PDT

@spawn031

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Posted by: Duardo
The live feed is posted on the front page...it may take a second to load, but it's there (albeit it could be bigger and load quicker)

Ah, I was thinking along the lines of a live twitter feed like this. Something than people can use their twitter accounts and use hashtags to give a shoutout to community members. Or perhaps Bungie employees can use it for quick updates if the site is under maintenance or a gameday carnage is underway.

Join dates were taken away because users used them to undermine others that had joined after them. "You joined in 2008 so your opinion doesn't matter." It's much like the current trend of users using your K/D ratio against you. Titles are somewhat like this, but it's not as bad as when the join dates were underneath our avatars...and definitely not as bad as when our post count was underneath the avatars.Now that I think back, it does seem that all people had back then to "judge" other users was their post count. Since titles were non existent. I wouldn't mind settling for a toggle option for everyones own viewing though. Just something to discuss.

  • 12.03.2011 10:56 PM PDT
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This list is already getting traitorously long, good job seventh column. I'll critique everything that I disagree with. I do note that although I might not disagree with an idea, I also might not be for the idea either, and that the list was to 45 as of my post.

Posted by: spawn031 1: We don't see our ban history? What about our "Most Recent Moderation History"? Isn't that your ban history? I guess I wouldn't know *smugface*.
4: Don't shoutbox's get filled with spam?
5: Isn't there already a twitter/facebook feed?
7: A image board will go south, trust me.
9: Having a join date under avatars might encourage new guy prejudice.
10: I'd give the like button a trial... I don't like the sound of it though.
15: If we remove the Halo forums altogether... I predict chaos.
22: Couldn't we just have a forum or topic for the community webcam?
25: Hashtags? That seems unnecessary enough for me to voice it.
26: I'm fine with the idea of seeing your own post count, but not others seeing yours.
27: I'd like username changing, if it's under enough restrictions.
29: Change the flood? How and why?
30: Lol drunk test... it'll probable be really annoying and won't work.
31: Multi-PM ability? For trolls: multi-spam ability.
33: Ignore a users posts? Not cool! Why would you want to do that?
38: View count? I think it'll encourage trolls and be ignored by casual members.
39: More dragons? *despair*
42: How could we fairly distribute awards, keeping in mind moderators are human.

Posted by: Duardo
...Until we are given jobs...

That will make moderating a very competitive job, you know.

  • 12.03.2011 11:01 PM PDT

"We live in a special time; the only time where we can observationally verify that we live in a very special time" - Lawrence Krauss.

I was a finalist :P

Cross platform messaging. That is, the ability to send messages from Bungie.net to someone who is on X-box live (and is on a users X-box live friend list).

  • 12.04.2011 12:53 AM PDT