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Subject: The Forerunners are nurturing humanity? -- a revised theory

300 years; I've always got that mixed up. Still, 300 years of fighting -- that's a long time. It changes people. Attitudes. Especially in the face of all life in the galaxy being wiped out. I think 10,000 years after the war with the humans not many would give a -blam!-; not a single human alive during that war would be alive then, completely different to post-Human-Covenant war a few months later.

Most damage was done to us anyway, the Forerunners are the aggressors in this situation.

  • 12.04.2011 3:10 PM PDT


Posted by: grey101
No they aren't, the only reason the portal was found is because Regret knew it was there and did a slipspace jump. Had that not have happened humanity wouldn't have known about it thus they weren't ready for it. If they found it by themselves and excavated it alone then they would have been ready since they had the technology, and knowledge to do so; Which was coming close according to ODST.


Humanity locked the door; the San 'Shyuum had the key. That's what Ajw's theory is saying. That's what I'm saying too.

  • 12.04.2011 3:11 PM PDT

To be honest, when I first saw all this in the weekly update I thought 2 things.
#1- there is an actual legendary ending but,
#2- No matter what anyone does,(kill all the bobs, hit all switches etc) that until the "time" mentioned in "There'll be another time..." is reached there won't be a legendary ending.

The weekly update by bungie has slowed my hardcore search for what unlocks the legendary ending.


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I'd also imagine that Forerunner Geas would play a heavy role in this. For example, bit convenient that we just happened to build a mega-city right on top of the portal and effectively conceal it until the time was right, eh?


Ofcourse Gea come into this; Though i don't see Africa and the timing to add up seeing how the humans weren't ready given the conditions of that finding.


The conditions are irrelevant.


No they aren't, the only reason the portal was found is because Regret knew it was there and did a slipspace jump. Had that not have happened humanity wouldn't have known about it thus they weren't ready for it. If they found it by themselves and excavated it alone then they would have been ready since they had the technology, and knowledge to do so; Which was coming close according to ODST.
We somewhat knew about it, we just didn't know what it was. Remember how in ODST, they had weird seismic activity? That's why the Superintendent/Virgil were so important. They were running up an investigation into what was going on. ODST Legandary ending also supports that.

We didn't know it was the portal device until it was glassed out.

[Edited on 12.04.2011 3:14 PM PST]

  • 12.04.2011 3:13 PM PDT

Oh hai thar human archeictexture and Vergil symbals.

It wouldn't have been long before they'd come across the portal themselves anyway.

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  • 12.04.2011 3:14 PM PDT

To be honest, when I first saw all this in the weekly update I thought 2 things.
#1- there is an actual legendary ending but,
#2- No matter what anyone does,(kill all the bobs, hit all switches etc) that until the "time" mentioned in "There'll be another time..." is reached there won't be a legendary ending.

The weekly update by bungie has slowed my hardcore search for what unlocks the legendary ending.


Posted by: Wolverfrog
Oh hai thar human archeictexture and Vergil symbals.

It wouldn't have been long before they'd come across the portal themselves anyway.
Like I was saying earlier.

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We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: Wolverfrog
300 years; I've always got that mixed up. Still, 300 years of fighting -- that's a long time. It changes people. Attitudes. Especially in the face of all life in the galaxy being wiped out. I think 10,000 years after the war with the humans not many would give a -blam!-; not a single human alive during that war would be alive then, completely different to post-Human-Covenant war a few months later.

Most damage was done to us anyway, the Forerunners are the aggressors in this situation.


So 300 years of fighting the flood magically makes the entire forerunner populace like humans? I don't see the connection especially since cryptum starts at the beginning of the end.

[Edited on 12.04.2011 3:17 PM PST]

  • 12.04.2011 3:16 PM PDT


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Posted by: Wolverfrog
Oh hai thar human archeictexture and Vergil symbals.

It wouldn't have been long before they'd come across the portal themselves anyway.
Like I was saying earlier.


I used to check for other posts before making my own, but then I took an arrow in the knee.

  • 12.04.2011 3:17 PM PDT


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Posted by: Wolverfrog
300 years; I've always got that mixed up. Still, 300 years of fighting -- that's a long time. It changes people. Attitudes. Especially in the face of all life in the galaxy being wiped out. I think 10,000 years after the war with the humans not many would give a -blam!-; not a single human alive during that war would be alive then, completely different to post-Human-Covenant war a few months later.

Most damage was done to us anyway, the Forerunners are the aggressors in this situation.


So 300 years of fighting the flood magically makes the entire forerunner populace like humans? I don't see the connection especially since cryptum starts at the beginning of the end.


lolwat.

Missing my point, mate. I'm saying that the Forerunners knew they'd -blam!- things up royally. They knew humanity had created a cure and they couldn't.

They knew they didn't deserve the Mantle, and that we did. It took 300 years of systematic destruction for all that arrogance and ego to come toppling down, but when it finally did they left us all they had and trusted in us to end the threat.

Heck, maybe they still are. Maybe the Forerunners are just waiting for us in their shield worlds to do what they couldn't do and stop the Flood once and for all.

Everything's more fun when you double post.

[Edited on 12.04.2011 3:19 PM PST]

  • 12.04.2011 3:19 PM PDT

To be honest, when I first saw all this in the weekly update I thought 2 things.
#1- there is an actual legendary ending but,
#2- No matter what anyone does,(kill all the bobs, hit all switches etc) that until the "time" mentioned in "There'll be another time..." is reached there won't be a legendary ending.

The weekly update by bungie has slowed my hardcore search for what unlocks the legendary ending.


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Posted by: Wolverfrog
300 years; I've always got that mixed up. Still, 300 years of fighting -- that's a long time. It changes people. Attitudes. Especially in the face of all life in the galaxy being wiped out. I think 10,000 years after the war with the humans not many would give a -blam!-; not a single human alive during that war would be alive then, completely different to post-Human-Covenant war a few months later.

Most damage was done to us anyway, the Forerunners are the aggressors in this situation.


So 300 years of fighting the flood magically makes the entire forerunner populace like humans? I don't see the connection especially since cryptum starts at the beginning of the end.
I saved the thread to see you two -blam!-ez go at it with each other. Love to see amazing theories.

  • 12.04.2011 3:20 PM PDT

To be honest, when I first saw all this in the weekly update I thought 2 things.
#1- there is an actual legendary ending but,
#2- No matter what anyone does,(kill all the bobs, hit all switches etc) that until the "time" mentioned in "There'll be another time..." is reached there won't be a legendary ending.

The weekly update by bungie has slowed my hardcore search for what unlocks the legendary ending.


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Posted by: grey101

Posted by: Wolverfrog
300 years; I've always got that mixed up. Still, 300 years of fighting -- that's a long time. It changes people. Attitudes. Especially in the face of all life in the galaxy being wiped out. I think 10,000 years after the war with the humans not many would give a -blam!-; not a single human alive during that war would be alive then, completely different to post-Human-Covenant war a few months later.

Most damage was done to us anyway, the Forerunners are the aggressors in this situation.


So 300 years of fighting the flood magically makes the entire forerunner populace like humans? I don't see the connection especially since cryptum starts at the beginning of the end.


lolwat.

Missing my point, mate. I'm saying that the Forerunners knew they'd -blam!- things up royally. They knew humanity had created a cure and they couldn't.

They knew they didn't deserve the Mantle, and that we did. It took 300 years of systematic destruction for all that arrogance and ego to come toppling down, but when it finally did they left us all they had and trusted in us to end the threat.

Heck, maybe they still are. Maybe the Forerunners are just waiting for us in their shield worlds to do what they couldn't do and stop the Flood once and for all.

Everything's more fun when you double post.
Precursors -->Forerunners-->Humans.
Wtf u think the Librarian liked the humans so much? She saw something no one else did. That's why the mantle was handed down.

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Forerunners and humans were on the same level.

Modern humans probably have some link with the precursors (going from iris).

Don't remember any source saying the mantle was passed down nor what the mantle actually is or what it originally was.

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Based on ajw's theory, even if they Forerunners didn't like us, they still tried to recreate the conditions that we found the Flood cure.

  • 12.04.2011 3:27 PM PDT

Mantle's most likely an ideology; the figurative scepter passed down allegedly from the Precursors which entrusts the race it's been given to to foster and protect life in the galaxy -- the Forerunners abused this 'right,' and went to extremes. Everything in the Halo 3 terminals and Cryptum supports that.

I actually believe humanity was more advanced than the Forerunners. However, their war with the Flood lessened their numbers and so we were defeated by the numerical superiority of the Forerunners. Look at it like this; we created a cure for the Flood. The Forerunners couldn't, and even after 100,000 years of having specimens analysed in their labs by incredibly intelligent AIs still were no closer to a solution.

Also, why do you think we're called Reclaimers by Forerunner constructs, and why do you think we can alone can access their technology, and why did John feel a 'strange familiarity' when moving to activate the light-bridge on Halo, or Fred the same when under CASTLE base?

Do you actually believe that the Forerunners didn't leave us anything behind? Because that goes against pretty much everything we've been told since The Fall of Reach.

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  • 12.04.2011 3:30 PM PDT

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Posted by: Wolverfrog
I like it, nice one. Except the part where you cited Sovereign as 'Nazara.' Let's be honest, Legion can -blam!- off with his silly idioms -- he's Sovereign, the massive ship with an epic voice who we blow up at the end of ME1.

:P


Legion's idioms > all other idioms

Sovereign is the name Saren gave to him, whilst Saren is a badass he can't quite compare to Legion. :P

Saren ain't got no idioms

I'd also imagine that Forerunner Geas would play a heavy role in this. For example, bit convenient that we just happened to build a mega-city right on top of the portal and effectively conceal it until the time was right, eh?

Did I completely leave out geas? Damn, a very good point, no doubt that if this theory is accurate in any way a geas would possibly have been imposed upon each race to eventually lead them to where the Forerunners wanted them.

  • 12.04.2011 3:38 PM PDT

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Posted by: grey101
the only reason the portal was found is because Regret knew it was there and did a slipspace jump. Had that not have happened humanity wouldn't have known about it thus they weren't ready for it. If they found it by themselves and excavated it alone then they would have been ready since they had the technology, and knowledge to do so; Which was coming close according to ODST.


Not quite true. Doctor Endesha discovered the portal artefact after the results of his seismic survey, of course he didn't see or know what it was but he knew it was something big buried under the Earth.

I don't think that the Forerunners would have to like humanity to realise that we're the rightful inheritors of the Mantle, regardless of how they feel about humanity, they know that ultimately we're going to have to deal with the Flood and what they leave behind is going to be invaluable in helping us.

I mean, if we're supposed to be the ones to defeat the Flood, then it would sort of defeat the point of making us the only ones able to use their technology, there was clearly a purpose behind using their technology.

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Posted by: grey101
the only reason the portal was found is because Regret knew it was there and did a slipspace jump. Had that not have happened humanity wouldn't have known about it thus they weren't ready for it. If they found it by themselves and excavated it alone then they would have been ready since they had the technology, and knowledge to do so; Which was coming close according to ODST.


Doctor Endesha discovered the portal artefact after the results of his seismic survey, of course he didn't see or know what it was but he knew it was something big buried under the Earth.



See Bold.





Posted by: Wolverfrog
Mantle's most likely an ideology; the figurative scepter passed down allegedly from the Precursors which entrusts the race it's been given to to foster and protect life in the galaxy -- the Forerunners abused this 'right,' and went to extremes. Everything in the Halo 3 terminals and Cryptum supports that.

Also, why do you think we're called Reclaimers by Forerunner constructs, and why do you think we can alone can access their technology, and why did John feel a 'strange familiarity' when moving to activate the light-bridge on Halo, or Fred the same when under CASTLE base?

Do you actually believe that the Forerunners didn't leave us anything behind? Because that goes against pretty much everything we've been told since The Fall of Reach.



We don't know anything about the mantle nor what it was originally like. We see in cryptum how the forerunners (With extreme bias) bend the mantle to fit their own means and Greg Bear said we will see them bend it further.
I find it interesting how the forerunners "Remember" that the precursors passed down the "mantle" yet don't remember fighting them (If that is true). I also find it funny how They remember the mantle But there is a gap in memory about their history on their home planet.

The more and more it gets brought up the more i Find this "Mantle" to be bull****. It is hard enough to keep an idea or religion True after hundreds of years *Cough Christianity cough* , So how can you rationally expect an alien race to keep another race's ideology true?
All this fairytale crap about the Mantle was cast up by snakie years ago without anything backing it up.


"Reclamation" could be just that: Didact and his wife left behind all the forerunner technology so that humanity could retain their former glory before they were wrongfully de-evolved, And find another cure for the flood. There is no source for them leaving all this technology so we can be the next corrupted police of the galaxy. It is all just common speculation.

  • 12.05.2011 5:36 AM PDT

We know a lot more than you think about the Mantle; all that's needed is interpretation and extrapolation of sources.

Of course the Forerunners have misinterpreted the original meaning of the Mantle; that's the core of what I'm saying -- that at the end, they realised this and chose to figuratively pass it on to humanity, hoping we would succeed where they failed. I don't literally mean that the Didact went to human tribes and said 'guys, protect the galaxy. Uphold the Mantle. kthnxbai.' But the Forerunners left, leaving behind their technology and secrets for us to uncover, naturally make our own judgements and carry out their Mantle in a way they didn't, even if we're not consciously aware we are.

Mantle denotation (Oxford) - an important role or responsibility that passes from one person to another.

It derives from a biblical passage (and we all know that Halo is a universe holding many Christian/Religious allegories) where Elijah passed his cloak to Elisha (Kings 2:13) -- in this sense, a metaphoric cloak is being passed down, ideologies and guardianship wrapped within.

We are sworn to
protect life, not destroy it! That is
the Mantle we were given to carry.


This shows that they were given the Mantle, or at least the Forerunners believe they were given a mantle -- the ideology of which being to protect life. They are 'sworn,' implying that it is a central doctrine of their culture and demanded of them. From this one can infer that even if the Forerunners did not like a species such as humanity, their fealty to the Mantle would force them to pragmatically pass it down to us in the event that they could no longer carry it out.

Belief in the Mantle
sealed our doom! Weakened our
[protectorates], bred dependence and
sloth. Our [so-called Guardianship]
has stripped those we would keep
safe of any capacity for
self-defense!


This shows that the Forerunners took onto their shoulders the plights of species they found -- their interpretation of the Mantle flawed in the Librarian's opinion, so that they effectively forced peace through totalitarianism. This belief that they had wrongly carried out the intentions of the Mantle further alludes to a passing on from the failed sentinels to the new; humanity.

You still hold to
that [fairy tale] after all that
has happened?


This paints the Mantle in another light, implying that is has more significance than just ideology -- it could be that there is a physical 'cloak' as well as a figurative one, but 'fairy tale' shows that if there is it hasn't been found yet.

the Mantle you have
shouldered I do rescind - with far
more consideration than it was
granted.


Shows that the Forerunners imbued the beliefs of the Mantle into their AIs. 'Far more consideration than it was granted' implies that the Forerunners have a reason for believing that the Precursors left it them.

And now you claim the Mantle
is justification for impeding
nature's inevitable refinement?


Shows that the Forerunners used the Mantle to prevent any change from occurring, or at least in Mendicant Bias' opinion. Yet more proof that the Forerunners didn't uphold the Mantle as intended.

dictates of the Mantle

The Mantle forbade the
eating of the flesh of unfortunates.


Against the
greatest and most solemn instructions of the Mantle, I might have killed myself then
and there.


Further evidence that it's a doctrine, a way of life obviously all about protecting a preserving it.

we were but a stage in the stewardship of
Living Time. That others would come after us. Otherand better.


This is highly telling. Straight from the Forerunner's mouth, telling us that they're just the current stewards of the ever-shifting Mantle -- that others will inherit it, and hopefully do a better job. Here, Greg Bear is obviously foreshadowing humanity's inheritance of the Mantle.

It goes against the very Mantle that we so strive to inherit and hold

Shows that not only are they trying to justify their inheritance of the Mantle, but are also reluctant to let go of it even when they know they're not carrying the Mantle out correctly.

"Precursors felt the Mantle
extended to the entire universe, energy and matter as well as living creatures...
some say."


I find this quote especially interesting. "Precursors felt the Mantle" -- what an interesting choice of wording. Surely if the Precursors had created this 'Mantle,' this set of beliefs and ideologies, then they would of course know for certain all about it, and wouldn't have to 'feel' anything -- 'feel' implies that theirs was a subjective view upon something not of their own.

Humans believed
they were the true inheritors of the Mantle.


This leads me on to my next little theory; humanity was always supposed to be the one the Mantle was to pass down to, but the Forerunners took it and took that dominion, that belief that they were the lords of the galaxy, their little 'manifest destiny,' so to speak. After the war with the Flood, the Forerunners understand why it wasn't supposed to go to them and pass it down to the rightful inheritors -- humanity.

Making sure their
opponents could never rise again, never present a threat to Forerunner
dominance, all while claiming the privilege of protecting the Mantle


Further supporting evidence for the above; with the Forerunners claiming to be the stewards of the Mantle, they could justify to their people all the atrocities they committed to stay in power by claiming that it was all in the interests of the Mantle and thus relieve the consciences of all who would feel such barbarism was wrong.

and that peculiar connection
to the Mantle that all have but seldom know or feel.


More implying that the Mantle isn't just figurative and that it has some sort of corporeal manifestation; 'seldom know or feel' implies that most Forerunners can't connect with it truly, further supporting the idea that they weren't supposed to be the true inheritors -- that humanity are the Reclaimers, not they.

With
a shiver, she suggested we retire to contemplate the Mantle before spending the
hours of darkness in private study.


Further demonstrates how deeply ingrain into Forerunner society the Mantle is, that after some small strife they would break to contemplate its articles.

a unique sacred epistle of the Mantle's creed
and prayer.


'Epistle' is the key word here, alluding to an extract from a religious text -- in the real word, it refers to the New Testament; perhaps implies that the Forerunner consider their interpretation of the Mantle a 'new testament' of sorts whilst the Precursors and whoever possibly possessed it other than they had the 'Old Testament.'

To conclude...

Although we don't know much about the Mantle in its pure, original form, we know a fair bit about the Forerunners' interpretation of what it is, what it allows them to do, where it came from and who they believe should inherit it.

As previously said, I believe the Precursors originally intended for we (humanity) to inherit the Mantle, but the Forerunners took it instead and used it as an excuse to justify their species-autocracy throughout the galaxy.

After the war with the Flood when all their society lay in ruins around them, largely due to their utter failure to uphold the Mantle, they acknowledged their wronging and passed it along with all they left behind down to we, the rightful inheritors. The true Reclaimers.

All the hypothesis about we being the ones who were meant for the Mantle is just conjecture, but what's undeniable is that the Forerunners left behind everything for us and almost certainly the Mantle too after the realisation that they'd failed to uphold it. Whether it was all of Forerunner society that came to this revelation or just the Didact and Librarian is questionable.

*

Been ages since I've written something like that. Good fun.

  • 12.05.2011 8:34 AM PDT

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Beautifully made analysis there, Wolvers. Must have spent ages getting all those little passages.

Something interesting to take note of from Server 5 of the IRIS saga:

The anomalous world is in a perilous location beyond the line.
{/THE SECRETS IT HOLDS MUST BE PRESERVED/}
{/PLANS WITHIN PLANS WITHIN PLANS/}
The inhabitants; these unique denizens, must be researched.
They may hold answers to our own mysteries.
{/WHAT IRONY THAT WE DISCOVERED THIS TREASURE, ONLY AT THE END OF THINGS/}
{/BUT WHAT FORTUNE THAT WE STILL HAD TIME TO SAVE THEM/}
The thing we built on that world will vouchsafe their lives,
{/BUT PERHAPS ONE DAY IT WILL BE USED FOR ITS INTENDED PURPOSE/}

If the plan succeeds, and they are saved, it will be a good world.
If the plan fails,
{/AND THE ADVERSARY SUCCEEDS/}
it will remain an enigma forever
{/WITH NO ONE LEFT TO RECLAIM IT/}


This is clearly the Librarian whilst on Earth, the bit in bold is very interesting. It implies that there may be another purpose for the Excession, this is something that's also implied in Halo: Evolutions - From the Office of Dr. William Arthur Iqbal, where they say that the Excession is still actively drawing power from an unknown source.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

I saw nothing in that passage detailing an actual precursor saying or at the very least implying that they passed the mantle down to the Forerunners. Nor Did i see anything stating what the original mantle was and a comparison on the forerunner interpretation.

My point is that they clearly pick and chose when this so called "Mantle" should be applied; perfect case being them de-evolving humanity and only stopping there because they could cure the flood. If humanity didn't have the cure they would have been wiped out. Where in the mantle was that allowed?


Your entire point is that the forerunners (Didact and his wife) left technology behind. Which is correct.

The point i am trying to establish (And failing) is that the true reason and circumstances around that reason have yet to be officially stated. And that the concept of "The Mantle" has a possibility of being conjured up by the forerunners themselves to give them more importance. If not then it has been degraded extremely over the eons.


I have stated what i have been trying to say, but if we are to get serious then says so and i will retort with my own post.

  • 12.05.2011 9:13 AM PDT

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Posted by: Wolverfrog
Against the greatest and most solemn instructions of the Mantle, I might have killed myself then and there.
Further evidence that it's a doctrine, a way of life obviously all about protecting a preserving it.

So it sounds like suicide is strictly forbidden under the Mantle. I wonder how that extends to self-sacrifice. Humanity essentially sacrificed about one third of its population to stop the Flood, essentially committing suicide in the process. I had always thought that this was a more noble means used to defeat the Flood than what the Forerunners eventually resorted to. However under this injunction Humanity's actions could be interpreted as being just as bad. Though I always found laws against suicide to be silly anyway.

  • 12.05.2011 9:20 AM PDT

@Grey

You're just being slow, now. Everything implies that the Precursors had the Mantle before; several of the quotes in my previous post insinuate it heavily. You didn't read all the post I'm sure or you wouldn't make such redundant comments (for example, I've said myself that the Forerunners misinterpreted the Mantle's original purpose and supported that with evidence to boot); either you haven't read it or you haven't understood.

Your points would be a lot clearer if you weren't so terrible at writing, really. I'm guessing you've never done source-work in History at school; what one can infer and draw from sources is often more important than what's outright stated. You seem to think that unless the Didact walks out with a barrel's worth of sodium pentothal in his veins and spends an hour telling us everything about it, then it's not worth discussing.

I'm not going to repeat myself, I've made my case and made it well. If you couldn't follow it, then that's your problem.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

Complain all you want this is the only thing you have ever backed up even then it still has no direct source. I would love to see you write more elaborate posts about the Didact living or how Glasslands was correct in "Character development". You seem to go all out when there is nothing official to state you are wrong.

  • 12.05.2011 9:55 AM PDT

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Posted by: grey101
the Didact living


I still do not see anything explicitly saying that the Didact is dead. The opening of Cryptum and the Terminals in Halo 3 suggest that he is very much alive, he wouldn't have died from the Halos because he fired the Rings at the Ark. He could have gone into timeless xankara again and I very much doubt that age would be a factor because cryptum establishes that natural deaths are extremely rare for the Forerunners.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


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Posted by: grey101
the Didact living


I still do not see anything explicitly saying that the Didact is dead. The opening of Cryptum and the Terminals in Halo 3 suggest that he is very much alive, he wouldn't have died from the Halos because he fired the Rings at the Ark. He could have gone into timeless xankara again and I very much doubt that age would be a factor because cryptum establishes that natural deaths are extremely rare for the Forerunners.


Read this thread

and this response

  • 12.05.2011 10:08 AM PDT


Posted by: grey101
Complain all you want this is the only thing you have ever backed up even then it still has no direct source.


Halo 3's Terminals and Cryptum aren't direct sources? Fair enough, usually my theories are just guess-work -- that's because spelling out the obvious is pretty boring, because it should be obvious.

On this occasion though I've supported everything I've said. Glasslands handled character development just fine in its context; are you going to lecture me on being a writer, now? Because I will trounce your illiterate arse in that if you do. I've never said the Didact is alive.

Maybe I go all out, but you don't do anything at all. You're just a stick-in-the-mud, happy to stay in your own little field of suppression where not a single new idea is welcome so you can be confident in your delusion of omniscience.

You're a dull person.

  • 12.05.2011 10:12 AM PDT