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Subject: Campaign is where the REAL Reach experience is!

Think about it. What are the pros and cons about playing Campaign and what are the pros and cons of playing MM.


MM Pros: You get to play with more than 4 players
You can play against other players
You have a wide variety of playlists
You have the FF MM section
You can play arena which is good for competitive players
Invasion has a good spawning system because it is like campaign spawning.

Cons: The bad unbalanced maps
The bad spawns
The boring forge maps
The MM hackers (JTAGS) Which is unfair and considered cheating
The MM cheaters (DDOS)Which is unfair and considered cheating
The Vast array of terrible covenant weapons that do nothing.
The OP Banshee
The OP tank
The OP guass hog
The terrible health system of all vehicles.
The lightspeed glitches of vehicles
The teabagging
The V bagging
Having terrible teammates
Being 2s tricked in arena
Having bad connection games in arena
Not finding games in arena
No relevant story in multiplayer (When did 16 spartans battle it out in New Mombasa?)
Being matched against parties as a random every game
There is no BR
The AR doesnt kill anything
The Anniversary Pistol is retarded (Why is a pistol stronger than a rifle like the DMR? It doesn't make any sense. In the story you didn't see armies marching off to war with their little side arms.)
The sniper rifle can blow up EVERYTHING with 4 bullets. (Doesn't make any bloody sense to me.)
In FF matchmaking it lets all the retards start with a FRG because they can't aim any other gun in FF.
The FF only lasts for 1 set
The FF has thousands of AFKers
The FF kids blow up your vehicle when you get in it.
You can't kill grunts in MM
You can't kill Jackals in MM
You can't kill Brutes or hunters or engineers in MM
You can't blow up phantoms in MM
You can't fly Phantoms or Pelicans in MM
You can't shoot the main gun on the Falcon in MM
You can't get more than 3 people in a falcon in MM
You can't get AI teammates in MM besides MM FF where you get some sissy ODST's who die by 3 PP shots which is pointless because every random you find in FF has to make it their mission to kill all ODSTs on the map...
You can't find pickupable AAs in MM besides MLG where there is only 1 AA pickup anyway which isn't enough



im goonna post the rest later my hands are tired...


ok here we go again....


The DMR is overpowered against vehicles.
The DMR is underpowered against other players
The Plasma Rifle is barely seen in MM
The Spiker is barely seen in MM
When the plamsa rifle and spiker is seen in MM they are usually found in terrible locations such as abridged, Synapse, and other horrid custom maps I can't remember right now
(Thanks to those terrible community forgers that ruined MM. Yes I'm looking at you GodlyPerfection and 3 legged goat >:()
Gamesager revolutionized the way the enitre community uses banshees and has destroyed Invasion and BTB and even destroyed the balance of Breakpoint which no where to be seen in MM as of now.
DLC maps are a waste of money, time, and Internets to download because they are never seen in MM and usually have horrible frame rate problems and are played by tryhards like Gunkoma stats on live and Recent Players.
The dynamic spawns on maps destroy the concept of Map control
Static spawns destroy the concept of regaining map control
MM is garbage and just like the real world. No one can be happy all at once.

Here is a quote from the 1st matrix that is relevant to what I'm trying to say.

Agent Smith: Did you know that the first Matrix was designed to be a perfect human world? Where none suffered, where everyone would be happy. It was a disaster. No one would accept the program. Entire crops were lost. Some believed we lacked the programming language to describe your perfect world. But I believe that, as a species, human beings define their reality through suffering and misery. The perfect world was a dream that your primitive cerebrum kept trying to wake up from. Which is why the Matrix was redesigned to this: the peak of your civilization.

MM will NEVER EVER be a pefect MM. There will always be complainers. Like the machines in the matrix, Bungie lacked the programming language to create a perfect MM experience, which is why they put their heart and soul into creating the perfect campaign where no player would suffer like they would in the cold harsh world of MM.


Now. Let's get started with campaign

pros: you can't get out DMRd by a kid who is extremely lucky with their bloom
AI dont snipe your paper vehicles
You can't get AR rushed
You can't get pistol spammed
You can't be spawn killed by banshees
You cant be spawn killed all together
It has a great Co-op spawning system
It has loads of replay value
No forge world maps
No kids hwo hit you offline DDOS
It has a wide variety of enemies, not just the blue and red men in space suits
All weapons in the sandbox are put to good use.
The AR can kill enemies well
There are a wide variety of maps and scenery. Not just one small of arena of forged grey crap.
You can't get 2s tricked in Campaign
You don't have to worry about your K/D (Unless you really want to)
You can use a TARGET LOCATOR!!!!! :D
You can play Star wars in space with Sabres
You can destroy phantoms
You can fly phantoms
You can fly Pelicans
You can drive passenger warthogs
You can fire the main cannon on the Falcon
You can have grenade launcher turrets on the falcon
You can have passenger falcons
You can use FRG turrets
You can drive civilian vehicles like trucks and tractors and formula 1 race cars
You can JTAG without getting banned for life.
You can hack everything and have no consequences
You can hack yourself to become a grunt, a hunter, a jackal, a marine, a whatever.
Endless possibilities with hacks
It gives you multiple levels of difficuty and skulls to add to spice up the gameplay

The cons: The campaign was short
Online campaign has lag
All the characters died
There were less glitches which made it less fun





[Edited on 12.04.2011 7:45 PM PST]

  • 12.04.2011 6:42 PM PDT

reserved

[Edited on 12.04.2011 6:43 PM PST]

  • 12.04.2011 6:43 PM PDT

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Reach's Campaign? LOL

  • 12.04.2011 6:43 PM PDT
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  • 12.04.2011 6:43 PM PDT

I just like both. I like being able to fight Elites again, which is why I like Reach's campaign more than 3's (though if 3's had Elites it would be better), and I love the MM.

  • 12.04.2011 6:56 PM PDT
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Posted by: evilcam
Bobcast is paid in MILF blind dates.

The Reach campaign is the worst in the series.

No cons?

-Little character development.
-Extremely linear.
-Soft-kill zones. (The other campaigns never had any.)
-Broke existing canon.

Need I go on?

[Edited on 12.04.2011 7:34 PM PST]

  • 12.04.2011 6:58 PM PDT

Posted by: Darkside Eric
So basically... Waypoint is pro-vanilla?

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Waypoint isn't pro-anything so much as they're just anti-intelligence.


Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat
Reach's Campaign? LOL

  • 12.04.2011 7:23 PM PDT

I love campaign. MM can go kill itself. I'm never going to play another game of that wretched creation ever again(with the exception of campaign MM).

  • 12.04.2011 7:26 PM PDT


Posted by: InvasionImminent
I love campaign. MM can go kill itself. I'm never going to play another game of that wretched creation ever again(with the exception of campaign MM).
yeah you know what im talkin about :P

  • 12.04.2011 7:29 PM PDT
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tl'dr

and

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  • 12.04.2011 7:30 PM PDT


Posted by: MM is 4 Tryhards

Posted by: InvasionImminent
I love campaign. MM can go kill itself. I'm never going to play another game of that wretched creation ever again(with the exception of campaign MM).
yeah you know what im talkin about :P

I'm being totally serious.
I mean, can you do this in MM?

  • 12.04.2011 7:31 PM PDT


Posted by: Apocalypse
tl'dr

and

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don't read. Don't post.
Don't care. GTFO

  • 12.04.2011 7:34 PM PDT


Posted by: InvasionImminent

Posted by: MM is 4 Tryhards

Posted by: InvasionImminent
I love campaign. MM can go kill itself. I'm never going to play another game of that wretched creation ever again(with the exception of campaign MM).
yeah you know what im talkin about :P

I'm being totally serious.
I mean, can you do this in MM?
holy crap you are a compaign pro... I remember when i didnt have XBL i'd do this stuff all the time... hey check this stuff out you can look @ the whole file share if you want :P
http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=133056 49&player=Krazy%20Pigeon

[Edited on 12.04.2011 7:39 PM PST]

  • 12.04.2011 7:36 PM PDT

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Have not played campaign in ages.

  • 12.04.2011 7:37 PM PDT


Posted by: Nephilim713
Have not played campaign in ages.
check out invasionl youtube it will make you want to play it right now

  • 12.04.2011 7:39 PM PDT

Name's John. I'm a 21-year-old firefighter/EMT from lolhio who doubles as a die-hard Halo fan. I've been enjoying the franchise since 2001. My favorite iteration of Halo would have to be Halo 2 simply because I never got to experience the joy of a full-on Halo: CE LAN.


If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.

Oh yeah, and boot Zome.

I agree. Campaign emulates Reach's mediocrity as a Halo game far more eloquently than Matchmaking.

  • 12.04.2011 7:42 PM PDT


Posted by: Thrasher Fan
The Reach campaign is the worst in the series.

No cons?

-Little character development.
-Extremely linear.
-Soft-kill zones. (The other campaigns never had any.)
-Broke existing canon.

Need I go on?
MM has more cons

  • 12.04.2011 7:42 PM PDT


Posted by: MM is 4 Tryhards

Posted by: InvasionImminent

Posted by: MM is 4 Tryhards

Posted by: InvasionImminent
I love campaign. MM can go kill itself. I'm never going to play another game of that wretched creation ever again(with the exception of campaign MM).
yeah you know what im talkin about :P

I'm being totally serious.
I mean, can you do this in MM?
holy crap you are a compaign pro... I remember when i didnt have XBL i'd do this stuff all the time... hey check this stuff out you can look @ the whole file share if you want :P
http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=133056 49&player=Krazy%20Pigeon

Is that your File Share? If so, you have some good mods.

  • 12.04.2011 7:45 PM PDT

One does not simply trolololol into Mordor.

Reach's campaign might as well have been a big middle finger to every other Halo story knowledge, be it game, book, or other.

  • 12.04.2011 7:51 PM PDT

Posted by: martrdom95
They rushed reach for the profit they built up hipe and screwed us over end of story


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Posted by: Gangster No1
Anyone who claims the AR takes skill ought to shoot himself in the head. Preferably with the AR because they'll most likely miss with any other weapon.

Complaining, much?

  • 12.04.2011 10:40 PM PDT
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Inheritor #156 :p

You're putting way to much effort into this.. We all know the Reach campaign wasn't great.

  • 12.04.2011 10:44 PM PDT


Posted by: MM is 4 Tryhards
Being matched against parties as a random every game

That should go to the top of the matchmaking cons list.

Posted by: MM is 4 Tryhards
The Anniversary Pistol is retarded (Why is a pistol stronger than a rifle like the DMR? It doesn't make any sense. In the story you didn't see armies marching off to war with their little side arms.)

Actually it does make sense. With the recoil and the noise, the DMR has always struck me as a rifle shooting something a little more powerful than the 5.56x45mm NATO round, while the Magnum has struck me as a pistol shooting something a little more powerful than the .45 ACP round (maybe an upgraded, futuristic version of the round).

The 5.56x45mm NATO round is the round used in the primary assault rifle of the U.S. military among many others. It's known to be actually pretty weak, but that's because it's made to shoot very far, yet accurately while causing very little recoil. It's also pretty cheap to make because the round is so small, it doesn't need a lot of gunpowder to be propelled a long ways. The .45 ACP is different; it can't shoot quite as far as the 5.56x45mm round, but within it's range it is more powerful. The .45 ACP bullet is actually bigger than the 5.56x45mm bullet, so it needs more grains of powder to be propelled further, but again: because of it's size, it's more powerful than the 5.56x45mm round within it's more limited range.

It totally makes sense to me that, if it was affordable enough, a pistol like the Halo:CE Magnum would be developed for close-combat to medium-range (medium-range made possible with the scope), while the DMR would be reserved for medium-range to long-range. It just so happens that most combat in the current Halo games happens at a close-to-medium range. If the largest Halo maps were maybe twice the size of what they are now, I think it would seem a lot more balanced. Now: whether or not the Magnum could regularly be as accurate as it is...that's debatable.

  • 12.04.2011 11:19 PM PDT

You forgot the biggest MM pro: You're playing against actual people instead of AI

  • 12.04.2011 11:20 PM PDT