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Whatever yo. Just thought I would let you guys in on my vast supply of knowledge about competitive play. You guys can carry on playing for your k/d and calling your randoms bad because they went -5 and such.

  • 12.05.2011 8:55 PM PDT

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  • 12.05.2011 8:57 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sanuel Jackson
Posted by: blackandblutoo
But K/D does show how many players on the other team you killed, and in this compared to your death shows how usefull you were in the game. Even in objective, if you have someone that goes -20, they probably arent doing that well going for the objective either. But if you have a player that goes +20, thats keeping the other team from scoring because their sitting at their respawn screen.
Wrong. Going +30 means nothing when all you did was sit back at your base and get kills. Now I'm not trying to say that going +30 doesn't help the team in any way, I'm just saying that he's playing an equal part in contributing to the win. There's more to being good at Halo than by merely being the main slayer 100% of the time.


Well, if they are getting +30 kills in the back of their base doesnt that mean that they other team had 30 failed objective attempts. If the guy is acually trying to kill the other team when they have the flag/bomb/hill then yes hes helping. But as you said he is an equal part in the win.

Whenever I play objective (4v4) we have a designated slayer and the other 2 go for objective and the 1 other provide support fire. We win almost everytime because as the slayer kills the other players, they cant even get close to the objective. Even if they do, they are met by 2 or 3 more players.

  • 12.05.2011 8:57 PM PDT

Posted by: blackandblutoo
Posted by: Sanuel Jackson
Posted by: blackandblutoo
But K/D does show how many players on the other team you killed, and in this compared to your death shows how usefull you were in the game. Even in objective, if you have someone that goes -20, they probably arent doing that well going for the objective either. But if you have a player that goes +20, thats keeping the other team from scoring because their sitting at their respawn screen.
Wrong. Going +30 means nothing when all you did was sit back at your base and get kills. Now I'm not trying to say that going +30 doesn't help the team in any way, I'm just saying that he's playing an equal part in contributing to the win. There's more to being good at Halo than by merely being the main slayer 100% of the time.


Well, if they are getting +30 kills in the back of their base doesnt that mean that they other team had 30 failed objective attempts. If the guy is acually trying to kill the other team when they have the flag/bomb/hill then yes hes helping. But as you said he is an equal part in the win.

Whenever I play objective (4v4) we have a designated slayer and the other 2 go for objective and the 1 other provide support fire. We win almost everytime because as the slayer kills the other players, they cant even get close to the objective. Even if they do, they are met by 2 or 3 more players.

No offense but whenever I play Objective, we all just dick around and manage to go insanely positive at the same time. There is no competition in Objective whatsoever aside from trying to match your friends.

  • 12.05.2011 8:58 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sanuel Jackson
Posted by: blackandblutoo
Posted by: Sanuel Jackson
Posted by: blackandblutoo
But K/D does show how many players on the other team you killed, and in this compared to your death shows how usefull you were in the game. Even in objective, if you have someone that goes -20, they probably arent doing that well going for the objective either. But if you have a player that goes +20, thats keeping the other team from scoring because their sitting at their respawn screen.
Wrong. Going +30 means nothing when all you did was sit back at your base and get kills. Now I'm not trying to say that going +30 doesn't help the team in any way, I'm just saying that he's playing an equal part in contributing to the win. There's more to being good at Halo than by merely being the main slayer 100% of the time.


Well, if they are getting +30 kills in the back of their base doesnt that mean that they other team had 30 failed objective attempts. If the guy is acually trying to kill the other team when they have the flag/bomb/hill then yes hes helping. But as you said he is an equal part in the win.

Whenever I play objective (4v4) we have a designated slayer and the other 2 go for objective and the 1 other provide support fire. We win almost everytime because as the slayer kills the other players, they cant even get close to the objective. Even if they do, they are met by 2 or 3 more players.

No offense but whenever I play Objective, we all just dick around and manage to go insanely positive at the same time. There is no competition in Objective whatsoever aside from trying to match your friends.


But my point still stands. If every single person goes for the objective, they are going to get set up on, and destroyed. You cant say that when you mess around you dont go for kills that arent anywhere near the objective.

  • 12.05.2011 9:00 PM PDT


Posted by: Andrei Chikatilo
Posted by: Sanuel Jackson
Posted by: Andrei Chikatilo
True to a point.
Tell me when this is not true. I'd really like to hear it.

You can't honestly say that some guy who goes even or barely positive contributed as much as the guy who went +13, even if the former did a slightly better job of calling out or scored more flags or whatever.


actually you can, ive had multiple games where i go like 20 19 or 20 and 20 but someone else on my team went 10 and 4, we won the game cuz of me not him

  • 12.05.2011 9:00 PM PDT

Posted by: blackandblutoo
But my point still stands. If every single person goes for the objective, they are going to get set up on, and destroyed. You cant say that when you mess around you dont go for kills that arent anywhere near the objective.
There's no point in having everybody go for the objective because there's only one objective. Maybe when it's right next to the cap point/arm zone or something then I guess it'd be okay.

Also, all Halo is the aggressive push. Slayer ruffgonja as they call it. Just wait until you have more numbers and push.

  • 12.05.2011 9:02 PM PDT
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Why is hypocrite spelled with an E at the end?
The I in crite is not pronounce as eye.

So, on the one hand I spell it out exactly as it should be.
You follow the standard set before you by fools who can't even get a handle on the rules of their own language.


Posted by: blackandblutoo

But my point still stands. If every single person goes for the objective, they are going to get set up on, and destroyed.
lolno

Once, my entire team just sat on the enemy's objective and shat on them for ten minutes just because. No power weapons. No strategy. No callouts.

Objective is for retards.

  • 12.05.2011 9:03 PM PDT

If you want to kill everyone while I hold the ball then be my guest.

  • 12.05.2011 9:04 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sanuel Jackson
Posted by: blackandblutoo
But my point still stands. If every single person goes for the objective, they are going to get set up on, and destroyed. You cant say that when you mess around you dont go for kills that arent anywhere near the objective.
There's no point in having everybody go for the objective because there's only one objective. Maybe when it's right next to the cap point/arm zone or something then I guess it'd be okay.

Also, all Halo is the aggressive push. Slayer ruffgonja as they call it. Just wait until you have more numbers and push.


Exacty, everyone doesnt have to go for the objective. SO theres bound to be people roaming around getting kill after kill.

Thanks for proving me right. :D

  • 12.05.2011 9:05 PM PDT
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  • 12.05.2011 9:05 PM PDT

Posted by: blackandblutoo
Posted by: Sanuel Jackson
Posted by: blackandblutoo
But my point still stands. If every single person goes for the objective, they are going to get set up on, and destroyed. You cant say that when you mess around you dont go for kills that arent anywhere near the objective.
There's no point in having everybody go for the objective because there's only one objective. Maybe when it's right next to the cap point/arm zone or something then I guess it'd be okay.

Also, all Halo is the aggressive push. Slayer ruffgonja as they call it. Just wait until you have more numbers and push.

Exacty, everyone doesnt have to go for the objective. SO theres bound to be people roaming around getting kill after kill.

Thanks for proving me right. :D
I feel like you have a poor grasp of what we're trying to argue.

  • 12.05.2011 9:06 PM PDT

In Objective games your job as the main slayer is to kill the enemy team over and over so the objective player won't have trouble doing the objective. You clear the path while I go for the flag type of deal

  • 12.05.2011 9:12 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sanuel Jackson
Posted by: blackandblutoo
Posted by: Sanuel Jackson
Posted by: blackandblutoo
But my point still stands. If every single person goes for the objective, they are going to get set up on, and destroyed. You cant say that when you mess around you dont go for kills that arent anywhere near the objective.
There's no point in having everybody go for the objective because there's only one objective. Maybe when it's right next to the cap point/arm zone or something then I guess it'd be okay.

Also, all Halo is the aggressive push. Slayer ruffgonja as they call it. Just wait until you have more numbers and push.

Exacty, everyone doesnt have to go for the objective. SO theres bound to be people roaming around getting kill after kill.

Thanks for proving me right. :D
I feel like you have a poor grasp of what we're trying to argue.


I dont know man. Im out of it right now.

  • 12.05.2011 9:12 PM PDT

Posted by: NinjaLord77
In Objective games your job as the main slayer is to kill the enemy team over and over so the objective player won't have trouble doing the objective. You clear the path while I go for the flag type of deal
Your job as the "objective player" is to not only carry the flag, but to make sure you get it back to your base as quickly as possible. That doesn't mean you should just try to run it even if you're getting shot at. Most of the time you have to drop the flag to help your team shoot or else you risk losing the cap altogether.

  • 12.05.2011 9:16 PM PDT


Posted by: Sanuel Jackson
Posted by: NinjaLord77
In Objective games your job as the main slayer is to kill the enemy team over and over so the objective player won't have trouble doing the objective. You clear the path while I go for the flag type of deal
Your job as the "objective player" is to not only carry the flag, but to make sure you get it back to your base as quickly as possible. That doesn't mean you should just try to run it even if you're getting shot at. Most of the time you have to drop the flag to help your team shoot or else you risk losing the cap altogether.


Well yeah, The team should do what it takes to get the flag scored without allowing the other team to go for a counter cap.

  • 12.05.2011 9:19 PM PDT
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Posted by: Sanuel Jackson
How much you contribute to your team isn't measured by how positive you went.

Discuss



True, very true.

  • 12.05.2011 10:12 PM PDT

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  • 12.05.2011 10:14 PM PDT

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I would argue that for some a high K/D might be a sign of not being a good teammate... Some players care so much about there K/D that they betray for power weapons. Some guys will not kill someone with an objective if it means risking death. In thoes cases I would say your correct.

  • 12.05.2011 10:17 PM PDT

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  • 12.05.2011 10:19 PM PDT

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