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Subject: ZB NS did not fix much

..And I'm gonna round my f.ucks given up to 0.


Posted by: WH1RLEY
I'm not complaining nor am I saying that I hate ZB. I am just stating MY opinion and pointing out what I view as flaws.

well their not flaws, their fix's

  • 12.06.2011 12:06 PM PDT
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Well I just spent the last like 30 mins to try to find a post that would be the best response for the OP but sadly I couldn't find it. I sorta just skimmed page after page, so I'll try an respond on my own.

Posted by: WH1RLEY
There are some clear issues with ZB especially with NS. First if there is going to be ZB 343 should regulate how fast a person can shoot. In all other halo games if you were being shot from behind you had the opportunity to turn around and dump on the person shooting you. Now, unless you play on 10 sense by the time you turn around you are dead. With ZB and NS this becomes a bigger issue because you have no way to get away and I feel like reach is going to turn into COD where kids camp waiting for people to walk by them. If you really think about it games have not been won or lost because of bloom. The only reason people dislike it is because 1 out of 20+ 1v1 battles they get beat because their shot didn't register due to online lag or host.



There is nothing wrong with the kill speed in ZB, the 5sk is the same exact speed as a 4sk BR from both H2 and H3. (I'd prefer it to be 4sk myself but w/e). Not to mention Halo CEs 0.6 second 3sk magnum kill speed. It is not "spamming" it is called shooting.


You still can out shoot somebody, its called strafing or Gandhi hopping. You aren't going to get perfect 5sk's every time. Quit being in bad positions.


ZB and NS are actually Halo, quit relying on crutches and the mindless aggressive push game style.

It's not about making "it fair" so you can get the upper hand and come out ontop when you shouldn't have. You're going to get punished for being bad, for being in bad positions, for having bad teamwork. You no longer can sprint an run the hell away when you're about to lose a DMR fight, you no longer can miss 4 no scopes with a Sniper then run the -blam!- away. You no longer can do stupid pushes when you shouldn't have to the other teams side an get away with it by sprinting away, you no longer can be in bad positions and get out of them unpunished.



-blam!- why did I bother? It would have been easier to call him retarded and moved on.

  • 12.06.2011 12:08 PM PDT

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Posted by: Apocalypse
Well I just spent the last like 30 mins to try to find a post that would be the best response for the OP but sadly I couldn't find it. I sorta just skimmed page after page, so I'll try an respond on my own.

Posted by: WH1RLEY
There are some clear issues with ZB especially with NS. First if there is going to be ZB 343 should regulate how fast a person can shoot. In all other halo games if you were being shot from behind you had the opportunity to turn around and dump on the person shooting you. Now, unless you play on 10 sense by the time you turn around you are dead. With ZB and NS this becomes a bigger issue because you have no way to get away and I feel like reach is going to turn into COD where kids camp waiting for people to walk by them. If you really think about it games have not been won or lost because of bloom. The only reason people dislike it is because 1 out of 20+ 1v1 battles they get beat because their shot didn't register due to online lag or host.



There is nothing wrong with the kill speed in ZB, the 5sk is the same exact speed as a 4sk BR from both H2 and H3. (I'd prefer it to be 4sk myself but w/e). Not to mention Halo CEs 0.6 second 3sk magnum kill speed. It is not "spamming" it is called shooting.


You still can out shoot somebody, its called strafing or Gandhi hopping. You aren't going to get perfect 5sk's every time. Quit being in bad positions.


ZB and NS are actually Halo, quit relying on crutches and the mindless aggressive push game style.

It's not about making "it fair" so you can get the upper hand and come out ontop when you shouldn't have. You're going to get punished for being bad, for being in bad positions, for having bad teamwork. You no longer can sprint an run the hell away when you're about to lose a DMR fight, you no longer can miss 4 no scopes with a Sniper then run the -blam!- away. You no longer can do stupid pushes when you shouldn't have to the other teams side an get away with it by sprinting away, you no longer can be in bad positions and get out of them unpunished.



-blam!- why did I bother? It would have been easier to call him retarded and moved on.


Oh no, somebody is having a bad day D=

  • 12.06.2011 12:13 PM PDT
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Posted by: Apocalypse
-blam!- why did I bother? It would have been easier to call him retarded and moved on.


Simplified.

  • 12.06.2011 12:14 PM PDT
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Posted by: aBlueBookshelf

Posted by: Apocalypse
-blam!- why did I bother? It would have been easier to call him retarded and moved on.
Get trolled.


Nope I don't get trolled keed.

  • 12.06.2011 12:15 PM PDT
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Posted by: aBlueBookshelf

Getting trolled still bad kid.


Nope.jpg

  • 12.06.2011 12:17 PM PDT
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Posted by: aBlueBookshelf


And you're out!

  • 12.06.2011 12:19 PM PDT

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Posted by: aBlueBookshelf


And you're out!
Nope ur bad.

  • 12.06.2011 12:19 PM PDT
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Posted by: iNinjaVVen

Posted by: HerbalWalnut29
Posted by: aBlueBookshelf


And you're out!
Nope ur bad.


lmao

Funneh..

  • 12.06.2011 12:20 PM PDT

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  • 12.06.2011 12:21 PM PDT
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‘The conscious is cancerous if allowed to linger’

"Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there."

Get back on topic please.

  • 12.06.2011 12:22 PM PDT
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Who can't snipe...yes.

  • 12.06.2011 12:22 PM PDT

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Posted by: iNinjaVVen

Posted by: HerbalWalnut29
Posted by: aBlueBookshelf


And you're out!
Nope ur bad.


you're.

  • 12.06.2011 12:22 PM PDT

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ZB NS did fix much.

  • 12.06.2011 12:23 PM PDT

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And here's proof.

We got poo'd on. They had complete map control because they were better. Typically I would just sprint through runway and have a nice day living on their side.

Nope. Spawnkilled.

How it should be.

  • 12.06.2011 12:24 PM PDT
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RC RuNz the internet. Like the superintendent.

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Posted by: WH1RLEY
I'm not complaining nor am I saying that I hate ZB. I am just stating MY opinion and pointing out what I view as flaws.

The "flaws" you pointed out are that you can get kills to fast and when you get tagged by enemies for not being aware of your surroundings you can't run away.

Those are both the way Halo is meant to be. You're not going to understand that if you never played Halo CE, Halo 2, or Halo 3.

It's sad that people could possibly have been complaining about Halo the way it was meant to be.

  • 12.06.2011 12:31 PM PDT


Posted by: WH1RLEY
please actually read before you make stupid comments. How can you fight someone when it take literally 2 seconds to pull the trigger 5 times. Which is faster than most people can turn around and aim. You don't have an opportunity to fight. Hence they need to regulate shots. Actually play MLG and not firefight all day and you might not be so ignorant.


why are you complaining? you play MLG, doesnt that make you a pro or something?

  • 12.06.2011 12:39 PM PDT
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Posted by: Apocalypse
-blam!- why did I bother? It would have been easier to call him retarded and moved on.
I'm not sure exactly why everyone that doesn't conform to a certain point of view is retarded. A capped fire rate, with a 4sk may well have played better. With the current settings people are hardly punished for missing a shot, or aiming for the body, particularly when team shooting. A capped 4sk could have the same kill time, while better rewarding accuracy. It would also give players a fraction longer to react after the first shot.

  • 12.06.2011 12:39 PM PDT

Nothing is perfect but I like the no bloom settings.

  • 12.06.2011 12:41 PM PDT

Ever wonder what's up there?

Then don't play ZB.

Duh.

  • 12.06.2011 12:41 PM PDT
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Posted by: Horse Repairman
RC RuNz the internet. Like the superintendent.

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Clone is an internet God.

Posted by: DerpRoids
RC Clone is the anti-thesis of a lurker.


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Posted by: Apocalypse
-blam!- why did I bother? It would have been easier to call him retarded and moved on.
I'm not sure exactly why everyone that doesn't conform to a certain point of view is retarded. A capped fire rate, with a 4sk may well have played better. With the current settings people are hardly punished for missing a shot, or aiming for the body, particularly when team shooting. A capped 4sk could have the same kill time, while better rewarding accuracy. It would also give players a fraction longer to react after the first shot.

Ideas for the next MLG update perhaps.

/wishful thinking

[Edited on 12.06.2011 12:50 PM PST]

  • 12.06.2011 12:50 PM PDT


Posted by: WH1RLEY
There are some clear issues with ZB especially with NS. First if there is going to be ZB 343 should regulate how fast a person can shoot. In all other halo games if you were being shot from behind you had the opportunity to turn around and dump on the person shooting you. Now, unless you play on 10 sense by the time you turn around you are dead. With ZB and NS this becomes a bigger issue because you have no way to get away and I feel like reach is going to turn into COD where kids camp waiting for people to walk by them. If you really think about it games have not been won or lost because of bloom. The only reason people dislike it is because 1 out of 20+ 1v1 battles they get beat because their shot didn't register due to online lag or host.
Your obviously saying this cuz your adopted and your real parents dont love you

  • 12.06.2011 12:51 PM PDT

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