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Subject: The Most Irritating Character in the Halo Universe


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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Most irritating character? Let's go with John-117. Simply because his fanboys.

Your most irritating character is the main character/hero of Halo? That's surprising.

I'm going with Noble Six. Simply because of his fanboys. And because he's overrated. And because he has no personality. And because he's just overall boring. And because he's just another one dimensional character like all of NOBLE team.


Amusing how easily your own arguments can directly be applied to Chief in halo CE, or the trilogy overall.

  • 12.08.2011 6:11 PM PDT


Posted by: grey101



Posted by: grey101

Posted by: RigZ Boi
I'm just curious as to how somebody could enjoy the Halo universe when they find the Master Chief, Johnsons and Buck irritating.

Can people please stay on-topic.

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: RigZ Boi
I just find it hard to believe that somebody can find the most irritating characters to be the ones with some of the most dialouge or appearences in the Halo series.
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Jar Jar Binks talked a lot and made tons of appearances in Episode I, doesn't make him the best character in the film. Just an example.


Because it honestly wouldn't be halo without those 3 characters?

Any spartan could do what chief has done in both books and games, chief himself admits that most could do better.

I have yet to see anybody explain what johnson has done to be badass.

Buck hasn't done a damn thing nor do we know anything about him.


I honestly consider you a child if you value those characters so highly.


1)Well Master Chief basically MAKES the Halo franchise. Would you rather a cut-off-the-block main character?

2)ugh, he isn't the best at PARTICULAR things, what he is is arguably the best leader and most well-rounded. You are basically saying, "Well, he isn't the best at ALL things, so he isn't one of the best S-IIs." Linda maybe a better sniper, but MC would probably whup her in H2H. Kelly may be faster and can beat him easy in H2H, but I bet Chief could out-sniper her.

3)Halo: Contact Harvest? Fighting hordes of Flood? Badass/awesome quotes? Being a S-I NavSpecWar Sniper?

4)Agreed.

5)So if you value the most well-rounded S-II and the most well-known and explored Halo character, or a S-I Sniper with some awesome quotes and also has a pretty well laid out backstory, you are a child? I can understand Buck, but still. I'm sorry, but who SHOULD I value?


1. Chief makes the franchise because the "Fans" hold his dick. If they started drooling over another character then the spotlight would change.

2.It was clearly stated in the books that there are several spartans that are better leaders than kurt. Such as Kurt and Fred. Um this is what i mean by "Holding his dick". Out of 10 chief ranks a 5 on everything save for luck which he gets a ten on. He is the "best" spartan because he is the average one.

3. The only thing "badass" he did in contact harvest was shoot a railgun. I can give you the flood but nothing else, even so that was a retcon.

5. Try investing in characters that don't get spotlight and are actually pivotal to the story.




Implying the Master Chief isn't pivotal to the story.

I'm sorry he has a different opinion to yours. Obviously anyone who doesn't hold your exact opinion is an immature child. I can't understand why anyone would dare think otherwise.

  • 12.08.2011 6:23 PM PDT

United Armed Forces

Roberto, he wasn't calling him a child for having a different opinion, he was calling him a child for the reasons behind that opinion.

Read. PLEASE.

  • 12.08.2011 6:25 PM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Implying the Master Chief isn't pivotal to the story.

I'm sorry he has a different opinion to yours. Obviously anyone who doesn't hold your exact opinion is an immature child. I can't understand why anyone would dare think otherwise.

Because he honestly isn't, not as much as it seems.

I am sorry you skipped the part with me having to explain MY opinion. If you are going to be a hypocrite don't be stupid about it.

  • 12.08.2011 6:27 PM PDT


Posted by: GnadeMasta
Roberto, he wasn't calling him a child for having a different opinion, he was calling him a child for the reasons behind that opinion.

Read. PLEASE.

I'm not so sure. The way it was implemented, Grey was calling him a child for "[valuing] those characters so highly." Even if his reasons were poor (not saying they were), the insult was still directed toward the OP's opinion.

[Edited on 12.08.2011 6:36 PM PST]

  • 12.08.2011 6:32 PM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: jvc8996

Posted by: GnadeMasta
Roberto, he wasn't calling him a child for having a different opinion, he was calling him a child for the reasons behind that opinion.

Read. PLEASE.

I'm not so sure. The way it was implemented, Grey was calling him a child for "holding those characters so highly." Even if his reasons were poor (not saying they were), the insult was still directed toward the OP's opinion.


So we seriously are skipping the part with my having to explain my view and getting flak for it?

  • 12.08.2011 6:33 PM PDT


Posted by: grey101

Posted by: jvc8996

Posted by: GnadeMasta
Roberto, he wasn't calling him a child for having a different opinion, he was calling him a child for the reasons behind that opinion.

Read. PLEASE.

I'm not so sure. The way it was implemented, Grey was calling him a child for "holding those characters so highly." Even if his reasons were poor (not saying they were), the insult was still directed toward the OP's opinion.


So we seriously are skipping the part with my having to explain my view and getting flak for it?

Not at all. Actually, you make a good argument. I'm saying that the OP said some good points that contributed to his opinion and you did the same with yours. The difference is that you seemed to insult him for his opinion (which could have been done just as easily for your's).

  • 12.08.2011 6:39 PM PDT
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John-117 and Parangosky.

Why John? because I believe John is the single most overrated character in the entire halo trilogy. Is the most overrated spartan, and by far has the worst fanboys/girls i've ever seen in the halo community. Personally I hope he drops dead in the Reclaimer trilogy, but due to 343 being a giant 117 fanclub i'm afraid this isn't going to happen.

For those of you Familiar with 40K, 343 is Matthew Ward and John-117 is an Ultramarine. Nuff said

As for Parangosky. She is a sociopath in command of the Office Of Naval Intelligence. Engineering a War which i believe would have the UNSC Wiped out.Wasting Precious resources on Spartan IV's and the UNSC Infinity.I hate her character and everyhting she stands for. Hoping that R'tas will come along and tear her skull from her Shoulders.

That is All

  • 12.08.2011 6:42 PM PDT

"Halo! Its divine wind will rush through the stars, propelling all who are worthy along the path to salvation."

Sgt. Stacker, why?

It irritates me that there's no enough info about his character. :)

  • 12.08.2011 6:43 PM PDT
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Posted by: anton1792
Posted by: superiorarsenal
Posted by: anton1792
Jul 'Mdama.

He should be shot.

Who 'dat?

An Elite character from Glasslands.

You want teh Spoilerz?


OH, him. I remember him. I second this nimination.

  • 12.08.2011 6:47 PM PDT
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Do not waste your tears, I was not born to watch the world grow dim. Life is not measured in years, but by the deeds of men.

Posted by: goldhawk
We should know better, because we are better.

Parangosky. She is acting idiotic and irrational, making tactically questionable at every turn. Most of them contain only short term benefits with potentially disastrous long term fallout. How is this person still in charge of ONI?
The only characters I cared about in Glasslands were Phillips and BB with the main reason being the fact that they are so different from all the other characters.
Posted by: Deathly Angel
For those of you Familiar with 40k, 343 is Matthew Ward and John-117 is an Ultramarine.

Following that metaphor to its conclusion means that 343 should eventually produce Trazyn and Orikan which will make everything else somewhat forgiven. Hopefully.

  • 12.08.2011 6:55 PM PDT
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Posted by: grey101

1. Chief makes the franchise because the "Fans" hold his dick. If they started drooling over another character then the spotlight would change.

2.It was clearly stated in the books that there are several spartans that are better leaders than kurt. Such as Kurt and Fred. Um this is what i mean by "Holding his dick". Out of 10 chief ranks a 5 on everything save for luck which he gets a ten on. He is the "best" spartan because he is the average one.

3. The only thing "badass" he did in contact harvest was shoot a railgun. I can give you the flood but nothing else, even so that was a retcon.

5. Try investing in characters that don't get spotlight and are actually pivotal to the story.




1) I guess I see your point, but you can't change it, Master Chief is the figure-head of Halo.

2)No, no, no. Kurt being a better leader? Yeah I can see that, but then again, Master Chief never had the Leadership oppurtunities that Kurt had, so it isn't really fair. fred hasn't even shown anything short of leading Blue Team on one mission, then having Kurt take over. And no, he would not rank a 5 on everything. He is only beaten by the SPECIALISTS in each catagory (i.e. Linda and Fred in sniping, Kelly and Will in H2H). More like 7s across the board(Hmmmm, couldn't be a Bungie connection, could it?). Just because he isn't the very best doesn't mean he is average.

3. Ummmm, dispatch innies with cold efficiency, train a militia, fight aliens for the first time in the UNSC, got LAID. And that "retcon" actually made it a more impressive feat. If he could be infected, it just makes it so much more amazing that he survived. What about the awesome quotes?

5. I do, and they are cool and rank in my favorite characters, but calling people childish for admiring characters that are major characters with well flushed out backstorys in not valid.

  • 12.08.2011 7:00 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: superiorarsenal

2)No, no, no. Kurt being a better leader? Yeah I can see that, but then again, Master Chief never had the Leadership oppurtunities that Kurt had, so it isn't really fair. fred hasn't even shown anything short of leading Blue Team on one mission, then having Kurt take over. And no, he would not rank a 5 on everything. He is only beaten by the SPECIALISTS in each catagory (i.e. Linda and Fred in sniping, Kelly and Will in H2H). More like 7s across the board(Hmmmm, couldn't be a Bungie connection, could it?). Just because he isn't the very best doesn't mean he is average.


It's been stated Fred is the best all around in everything.

  • 12.08.2011 7:02 PM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: superiorarsenal

2)No, no, no. Kurt being a better leader? Yeah I can see that, but then again, Master Chief never had the Leadership oppurtunities that Kurt had, so it isn't really fair. fred hasn't even shown anything short of leading Blue Team on one mission, then having Kurt take over. And no, he would not rank a 5 on everything. He is only beaten by the SPECIALISTS in each catagory (i.e. Linda and Fred in sniping, Kelly and Will in H2H). More like 7s across the board(Hmmmm, couldn't be a Bungie connection, could it?). Just because he isn't the very best doesn't mean he is average.


It's been stated Fred is the best all around in everything.


Quote please?

  • 12.08.2011 7:04 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: superiorarsenal

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: superiorarsenal

2)No, no, no. Kurt being a better leader? Yeah I can see that, but then again, Master Chief never had the Leadership oppurtunities that Kurt had, so it isn't really fair. fred hasn't even shown anything short of leading Blue Team on one mission, then having Kurt take over. And no, he would not rank a 5 on everything. He is only beaten by the SPECIALISTS in each catagory (i.e. Linda and Fred in sniping, Kelly and Will in H2H). More like 7s across the board(Hmmmm, couldn't be a Bungie connection, could it?). Just because he isn't the very best doesn't mean he is average.


It's been stated Fred is the best all around in everything.


Quote please?


Comes from Chief.

Fall of Reach, pg, 78-79

"He always came in second in all the contests. John thought he could have come in first, but he just didn't like the attention."

  • 12.08.2011 7:08 PM PDT
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Parangosky. Or Faber. Reasons should be self-explanatory.

  • 12.08.2011 7:12 PM PDT
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Posted by: Xd00999
Parangosky. She is acting idiotic and irrational, making tactically questionable at every turn. Most of them contain only short term benefits with potentially disastrous long term fallout. How is this person still in charge of ONI?
The only characters I cared about in Glasslands were Phillips and BB with the main reason being the fact that they are so different from all the other characters.
Posted by: Deathly Angel
For those of you Familiar with 40k, 343 is Matthew Ward and John-117 is an Ultramarine.

Following that metaphor to its conclusion means that 343 should eventually produce Trazyn and Orikan which will make everything else somewhat forgiven. Hopefully.


I Have very Little Faith in 343. After seeing what they did with glasslands, sanctioning that stuff as "Canon" is Unforgiveable to me. I've practically given up on them. But it doesn't mean i won't come onto the Bungie forums to put my two cents in.

I Love Halo and its universe, its probably my Fav Sci-fi Universe along with 40K and Star Wars. But for me, Halo ended when Bungie passed on the IP, but i can't wait for their next big thing

  • 12.08.2011 7:13 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: Terren_117
Parangosky. Or Faber. Reasons should be self-explanatory.


Would not be surprised if Faber gave a geas to Parangosky's ancestors. Would explain a lot.

/kidding...or am I?

  • 12.08.2011 7:13 PM PDT
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Do not waste your tears, I was not born to watch the world grow dim. Life is not measured in years, but by the deeds of men.

Posted by: goldhawk
We should know better, because we are better.


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: Terren_117
Parangosky. Or Faber. Reasons should be self-explanatory.


Would not be surprised if Faber gave a geas to Parangosky's ancestors. Would explain a lot.

/kidding...or am I?

Faber: "Destroy humanity's credibility in anyway possible! That will teach them for defeating the Flood and trying to repopulate their species!"

  • 12.08.2011 7:20 PM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: Terren_117
Parangosky. Or Faber. Reasons should be self-explanatory.


Would not be surprised if Faber gave a geas to Parangosky's ancestors. Would explain a lot.

/kidding...or am I?
I'm not going to lie, that made my day. Honestly, I cannont forgive Karen Traviss for the travesty she did to the Halo Universe. (cwutIdidthar?)

Puns aside, Karen tried to make a character driven story but ultimately failed. Many would say what Halsey did was wrong, but I would say that she single-handedly saved the entirety of humanity. Karen just could not think of anything better to write about so she made Halsey look like a monster while the real monster, Parangosky, runs around scott free.

Edit: Numerous Mistakes.

[Edited on 12.08.2011 9:59 PM PST]

  • 12.08.2011 7:22 PM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: superiorarsenal

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: superiorarsenal

2)No, no, no. Kurt being a better leader? Yeah I can see that, but then again, Master Chief never had the Leadership oppurtunities that Kurt had, so it isn't really fair. fred hasn't even shown anything short of leading Blue Team on one mission, then having Kurt take over. And no, he would not rank a 5 on everything. He is only beaten by the SPECIALISTS in each catagory (i.e. Linda and Fred in sniping, Kelly and Will in H2H). More like 7s across the board(Hmmmm, couldn't be a Bungie connection, could it?). Just because he isn't the very best doesn't mean he is average.


It's been stated Fred is the best all around in everything.


Quote please?


Comes from Chief.

Fall of Reach, pg, 78-79

"He always came in second in all the contests. John thought he could have come in first, but he just didn't like the attention."


Problems:
1)THOUGHT. This is an ASSUMPTION, but everyone bases everything on this.
2)Who is the one he is coming in second to? *Gasp* could it be the S-II that is stated to almost always win?
3)What types of competitions? Accuracy? I already said he was second best sniper. H2H? Both Will and Kelly are better there. Speed? Strength?
4)This is such a contradictory statement. Kelly is already said, multiple times to be the fastest. Same goes for Linda with sniping. This leads me to believe ALL the competitions is exaggeration, but should be replaced with most.

  • 12.08.2011 7:22 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: superiorarsenal
Problems:
1)THOUGHT. This is an ASSUMPTION, but everyone bases everything on this.


If the so-called best Spartan-II thinks that, it has merit.

2)Who is the one he is coming in second to? *Gasp* could it be the S-II that is stated to almost always win?

How can he always win, yet Linda is the better sniper and Kelly the fastest runner? Explain that. Chief also lost the first ever challenge the Spartans had to do by the way.

3)What types of competitions? Accuracy? I already said he was second best sniper. H2H? Both Will and Kelly are better there. Speed? Strength?

Fred is simply the second best at pretty much everything. The contests probably involve most of what you say. But there is something to being the second best. Will may win a H2H contest, but Fred will beat him at sniping. Linda may win at sniping, but he'd beat her in H2H. He is always beating someone.

Except for knives, he IS the best at that.

4)This is such a contradictory statement. Kelly is already said, multiple times to be the fastest. Same goes for Linda with sniping. This leads me to believe ALL the competitions is exaggeration, but should be replaced with most.

He comes in second compared to them. I would say he is still the all around best because coming in second means he is beating everyone else in one way or another.

  • 12.08.2011 7:31 PM PDT
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Posted by: Terren_117

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: Terren_117
Parangosky. Or Faber. Reasons should be self-explanatory.


Would not be surprised if Faber gave a geas to Parangosky's ancestors. Would explain a lot.

/kidding...or am I?
I'm not going to lie, that made my day. Honestly, I cannont forgive Karen Traviss for the travesty she did to the Halo Universe. (cwutIdidthar?)

Puns aside, Karen tried to make a character driven story but ultimately failed. Many would say what Halsey did was wrong, but I would say that she single-handedly saved the entirety of humanity. Karen just could not think of anything better to write about instead of making Halsey look like a monster while the real monster, Parangosky, runs around scott free.

Edit: Numerous Mistakes.


You Sir May have a Cookie from the Cookie Jar

  • 12.08.2011 7:32 PM PDT

And where does it say Chief came in first on all the competitions?

This is an ASSUMPTION on your part.

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