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Posted by: grey101
Posted by: FTW 1997
Is irritating character the annoying one ?
If so ...i find that offensive
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Right, because if i don't have an obsession with chief something must be wrong with me. And seeing how i know your a child and you said "This offends me" you support my point,which i wasn't even trying to argue in the first place.
Posted by: grey101
My top 3
JOHN, AVERY,and Buck.[/quote][/quote]
Posted by: superiorarsenal
2)No, no, no. Kurt being a better leader? Yeah I can see that, but then again, Master Chief never had the Leadership oppurtunities that Kurt had, so it isn't really fair. fred hasn't even shown anything short of leading Blue Team on one mission, then having Kurt take over. And no, he would not rank a 5 on everything. He is only beaten by the SPECIALISTS in each catagory (i.e. Linda and Fred in sniping, Kelly and Will in H2H). More like 7s across the board(Hmmmm, couldn't be a Bungie connection, could it?). Just because he isn't the very best doesn't mean he is average.
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It's been stated Fred is the best all around in everything. [/quote]
Quote please?
Comes from Chief.
Fall of Reach, pg, 78-79
"He always came in second in all the contests. John thought he could have come in first, but he just didn't like the attention."
Problems:
1)THOUGHT. This is an ASSUMPTION, but everyone bases everything on this.
2)Who is the one he is coming in second to? *Gasp* could it be the S-II that is stated to almost always win?
3)What types of competitions? Accuracy? I already said he was second best sniper. H2H? Both Will and Kelly are better there. Speed? Strength?
4)This is such a contradictory statement. Kelly is already said, multiple times to be the fastest. Same goes for Linda with sniping. This leads me to believe ALL the competitions is exaggeration, but should be replaced with most.
1. So when given evidence you are trying to say it isn't good enough? How about you give me a source saying "John is the best leader" or that he is "The best spartan"? You won't find it because it isn't true nor does it exist. That was created by children like you.
2.DO YOU EVEN READ THE BOOKS? John did not come in first all the time. His team was always in the top 3 but not number one every time.
3.read the F****** books. And give me a source for everything you are saying because i know you don't have the books. There are several spartans that are good in H2H combat,kelly is not one of them since she is the fastest runner.
4. There are no "competitions" For this They naturally devolped the skills they had. I am debating if I should even keep responding to you because you haven't read the books and won't accept that chief isn't some god.
Posted by: superiorarsenal
Posted by: grey101
1. Chief makes the franchise because the "Fans" hold his dick. If they started drooling over another character then the spotlight would change.
2.It was clearly stated in the books that there are several spartans that are better leaders than kurt. Such as Kurt and Fred. Um this is what i mean by "Holding his dick". Out of 10 chief ranks a 5 on everything save for luck which he gets a ten on. He is the "best" spartan because he is the average one.
3. The only thing "badass" he did in contact harvest was shoot a railgun. I can give you the flood but nothing else, even so that was a retcon.
5. Try investing in characters that don't get spotlight and are actually pivotal to the story.
1) I guess I see your point, but you can't change it, Master Chief is the figure-head of Halo.
2)No, no, no. Kurt being a better leader? Yeah I can see that, but then again, Master Chief never had the Leadership oppurtunities that Kurt had, so it isn't really fair. fred hasn't even shown anything short of leading Blue Team on one mission, then having Kurt take over. And no, he would not rank a 5 on everything. He is only beaten by the SPECIALISTS in each catagory (i.e. Linda and Fred in sniping, Kelly and Will in H2H). More like 7s across the board(Hmmmm, couldn't be a Bungie connection, could it?). Just because he isn't the very best doesn't mean he is average.
3. Ummmm, dispatch innies with cold efficiency, train a militia, fight aliens for the first time in the UNSC, got LAID. And that "retcon" actually made it a more impressive feat. If he could be infected, it just makes it so much more amazing that he survived. What about the awesome quotes?
5. I do, and they are cool and rank in my favorite characters, but calling people childish for admiring characters that are major characters with well flushed out backstorys in not valid.
1. seriously? When did i say i would or want to change that? And why are you arguing this?
2. This is another reason I don't like MC, because people like you have some childish infatuation with him and assume he must be the best at everything for some reason.
Chief had every chance Kurt did yet it just isn't chief's nature to be deeply imitate leader. If you Read GoO you would clearly see that.
You do understand that every single spartan has a specialty correct? Fred's specialty is knives not sniping. kelly's is running, and will was good with rockets and H2H.
Um It was clearly stated in the fall of reach that being the average was johns specialty. He wasn't the smartest,fastest,nor the strongest and that is what makes him the best.
So you are arguing something you have no knowledge about whatsoever.
3. As a said all of that can be done by anybody; is you seriously stated "training militia" and "having sex" as your reasons for liking him then you are supporting why I think you are child.
5.I am calling you childish for having an obsession with the character and not having a deep reason for that obsession. The funny thing is if you didn't act the way you are my statement wouldn't have affected you. If you said you like john because he was average then I would fine that to be ok, then again i don't care since this is an opinion thread.
How can you talk about john's back story when you don't even know it? Buck doesn't have a fleshed out story either and we have a 20 gap with Johnson.