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Subject: Explain why You Hate Bloom.

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Posted by: Sentox6
Posted by: Akamia179
I made no such attempt. You misunderstood my post. I should have expected that.

I merely stated that rolling dice takes skill (the act of rolling it, it had nothing to do with outcome). I made no attempt to relate it to Bloom. Which sentence did I make such a connection?

It doesn't matter if you were trying to draw a comparison or not. If you were, it was clearly ridiculous. If you were not, it was a completely irrelevant (and entirely banal) statement with no purpose except to demonstrate some sort of vacuous pedanticism.

Either way your input deserves no respect.

And by this comment, you are no better.

  • 12.09.2011 6:54 PM PDT
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Posted by: RC Clone
Nope. SouthPole isn't a person. He's the avatar of the force of tryhards everywhere. He stalks the web looking for retards to set straight. He can not be stopped by mere bans or thread locks for he shall rise anew.


Posted by: Confederateghad
Stop listening to Akamia. He has no idea what he's talking about.

  • 12.09.2011 6:56 PM PDT

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Posted by: tsujen

Posted by: Bartybum
I find it more realistic. Bullet spread would happen at a higher rate of fire.


The year is 2555 not 2010. The DMR has bullet spread like a gun in the civil war. With the advanced technology they have in 2555 you would think a gun they are using would shoot straight every time and not be so random, right?


The civil war? Really? Have you ever really realized how atrociously inaccurate and difficult those weapons were to use? You'd be lucky to hit any targets at all at 100 yards even with a full line of men charging at you.

The bloom in Reach is not a testament to the inaccuracy of the weapon through it's mechanical shortcomings, but because it's a gun and it's being held by a person. Anyone who's fired a weapon today knows that no matter how skilled you are as a marksman, firing rapid shots causes your accuracy to diminish. Literally, the only to eliminate what "bloom" is in real life is to mount the weapon on a tripod that is bolted to the floor.

  • 12.09.2011 7:05 PM PDT

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I personally hate bloom and no-bloom. No-bloom makes it so that everybody has an equal chance in killing me by spamming the DMR. Bloom makes it so that it will annoy the crap out of me when I can't land the 5th shot.

I prefer the TU one. I'd say its the sweet spot.

  • 12.09.2011 7:10 PM PDT
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Posted by: Bartybum
I find it more realistic.


I read up to here.

Stop playing video games.

Go outside.

  • 12.09.2011 7:19 PM PDT

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Posted by: tsujen

Posted by: Bartybum
I find it more realistic. Bullet spread would happen at a higher rate of fire.


The year is 2555 not 2010. The DMR has bullet spread like a gun in the civil war. With the advanced technology they have in 2555 you would think a gun they are using would shoot straight every time and not be so random, right?


The civil war? Really? Have you ever really realized how atrociously inaccurate and difficult those weapons were to use? You'd be lucky to hit any targets at all at 100 yards even with a full line of men charging at you.

The bloom in Reach is not a testament to the inaccuracy of the weapon through it's mechanical shortcomings, but because it's a gun and it's being held by a person. Anyone who's fired a weapon today knows that no matter how skilled you are as a marksman, firing rapid shots causes your accuracy to diminish. Literally, the only to eliminate what "bloom" is in real life is to mount the weapon on a tripod that is bolted to the floor.


Watch the video of fire an AA12 on full auto with 1 hand with little recoil.

That's a gun in 2011.
You'd imagine in 2552 they'd be able to make a single shot weapon shoot where you aim.

  • 12.09.2011 7:24 PM PDT

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I don't. Whoops, broke your thread.

Really, the legitimate reason I don't care about whether or not bloom even EXISTS is because i'm just not that hardcore. I came to enjoy the next installment in my favourite game series.

The number one reason I like bloom is probably because it looks nice. Thats right, i'm that shallow. I also like it because, competetive or not, it's REALISTIC, and when it comes to my video games, I actually like a healthy dose of realism.

The faster your fire your weapon, the less accurate your shots will become. Period. Always. Forever. End of discussion. People familiar with the way the Halo games work under the hood would understand that bloom has ALWAYS been a part of the Halo games. Always. Every single one of them. Reach was just the first game where they decided to include the nice visual effect of your reuticle visually representing the lowered accuracy of your weapon.

Now stop raging and enjoy the damn game. If you bought the game and you're not enjoying it, you need to go get a damn refund, because it's a game. It exists solely for your enjoyment, and if there's something you don't like, it's about a year too late to change it.

  • 12.09.2011 7:28 PM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
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Posted by: DeltaFiveZero
The number one reason I like bloom is probably because it looks nice. Thats right, i'm that shallow. I also like it because, competetive or not, it's REALISTIC, and when it comes to my video games, I actually like a healthy dose of realism.



AA12 shotguns can be fired in full auto with 1 hand and retain more accuracy than the bloody DMR in the hands of a 500 year later futuristic soldier.

Your "I like it because it's realistic" argument is void and retarded.

  • 12.09.2011 7:30 PM PDT

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Posted by: Confederateghad
Stop listening to Akamia. He has no idea what he's talking about.

Correction: I know what I'm talking about. You people are just too ignorant to listen.

  • 12.09.2011 7:31 PM PDT

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Posted by: Confederateghad
Posted by: Akamia179
Posted by: Confederateghad
Stop listening to Akamia. He has no idea what he's talking about.

And you are not qualified to be telling people who to listen to, or not listen to.

You're bad at trolling.

Good. 'Cause I'm not trolling.

  • 12.09.2011 8:18 PM PDT

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Posted by: Akamia179
And by this comment, you are no better.

Well, you really told me. I concede to your undoubtedly superior intellect.

  • 12.09.2011 8:26 PM PDT

love bloom ha paradox

  • 12.09.2011 8:31 PM PDT

Posted by: Adm Hotpants
The bloom in Reach is not a testament to the inaccuracy of the weapon through it's mechanical shortcomings, but because it's a gun and it's being held by a person. Anyone who's fired a weapon today knows that no matter how skilled you are as a marksman, firing rapid shots causes your accuracy to diminish. Literally, the only to eliminate what "bloom" is in real life is to mount the weapon on a tripod that is bolted to the floor.

I agree that the only reasoning behind bloom that actually makes any sense is that it would be the fault of the shooter, not the weapon, for it's inaccuracy. However, the DMR doesn't allow anyone to fire (what I'd call) "rapidly". The strict delay between shots doesn't let you fire one shot after the other, as fast as most people possibly can. The firing, and then ejecting of the cartridge happens incredibly fast (in reality, anyways); yet there's all this time being wasted in between shots.

You're forced to watch your Spartan recover from recoil after each shot before you're allowed to shoot again, yet you still have to deal with so much bloom and inaccuracy? That doesn't seem realistic to me. Now, even that could make sense if it only happened while you were moving, but it doesn't. I'll be crouched down, aiming through the DMR sights, fire the weapon, and the bloom is exactly the same as when I'm running, jumping, all the while firing.

[Edited on 12.09.2011 9:07 PM PST]

  • 12.09.2011 9:05 PM PDT


Posted by: UnsuccesfulTroll
Well, if you want to be realistic, do you really think that a SPARTAN will feel the kickback of the rifle? Remember that they weight a lot and they are also very strong in that armor. I know that those spartan III suck but, still!!!

Depends on the round the rifle fires.

  • 12.09.2011 9:20 PM PDT

Bloom is retarded. if i wanted bloom i would go hipfire in cod

  • 12.09.2011 10:06 PM PDT
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i like bloom, its been in all 3 games before but you didnt see it... its also a l2p issue for most "herp derp spam that trigger mindlessly as fast as possible" is not possible this time around.
LEARN TO PACE YOUR SHOTS

  • 12.09.2011 10:27 PM PDT

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Posted by: Cavik Akavelle
Depends on the round the rifle fires.

You know a lot about 25th century weaponry.

  • 12.09.2011 10:28 PM PDT

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Bloom.

Because in real life the more you fire a gun, the shorter the barrel gets to the point where bullets begin to come out at 30 degree angles.

I lol'd.

  • 12.09.2011 10:57 PM PDT

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-Phoenix Wright

Irony is a -blam!-. Let's move on.

I maintain my position that Bloom can be fixed. And this is what I mean by "fix".

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Posted by: no weakness
Posted by: Akamia179
Posted by: st3althsniper22
Because randomness should never be programmed into anything. Playing with bloom is like rolling dice, it's totally random and has no skill with it.

But rolling dice is a skill...
Shirley, you can't be serious?

Let's make this clear...

The ACT of ROLLING THE DICE does take some minuscule amount of cognitive function and muscle ability which can be argued represents "skill."

That being said, the OUTCOME resulting from that "skill" DOES NOT have any correlation to said "skill."

The "skill" one exhibits "rolling dice" ENDS once the dice have been rolled. The sum of the dice are influenced in NO WAY by your initial "skillful" input. Otherwise, one would be able to predict and accurately roll the same sum of the dice over and over again. This we know is impossible because the rolling of dice is a random event.

No matter how "skillfully" you roll the dice the outcome will always be random.


This guy... Just destroyed every aspect of this stupid thread. There is nothing you can say against this post. It is completely true. Thanks no weakness.

  • 12.10.2011 8:44 AM PDT

lolbloom

  • 12.10.2011 8:55 AM PDT

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  • 12.10.2011 8:57 AM PDT