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Subject: So I've tried alot of DMR spamming recently.

Doesn't work for me, even at mid range, and at close range I'm better off with an AR or Melee.

Give me a logical reason on how no bloom takes more skill if its a simple task of point and shoot?

Don't get to mad at me for using logic now, I know the Halo community got brainwashed after Halo 2.

Edit:

Another thing to bestow upon this thread.

I'm getting from you guys that bloom made it so you got hit more by spam if you strafed.

So by that logic if I held still I wouldn't get hit as much?

Or if I back peddled?

I mean the majority of my kills I am crouching and shooting/not strafing much at all.

[Edited on 12.10.2011 9:05 AM PST]

  • 12.09.2011 3:15 AM PDT

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Learn to spam then. It's fully possible, even though you're not able to do it.

  • 12.09.2011 3:16 AM PDT

I don't know man, I believe the no bloom thing just makes the DMR more OP.

I never understood how precision hitscan weapons took more skill then something then that of an AR, a DMR can outgun an AR even at very close range.

Its always irked me how the Halo 2 BR took any sort of skill when it was pinpoint accurate and had insta-kill bugs.


Posted by: iNinjaVVen
Learn to spam then. It's fully possible, even though you're not able to do it.

  • 12.09.2011 3:19 AM PDT

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Cause Someone can land 5 shot on your before you can on them?

you can still kill someone if you land your shots at close range with a DMR when they are using a AR.

It was a simple task of point and shoot before there was no bloom, there was just a 50% chance your shot would hit or not.

This made it dumb cause if you pace, then a spammer will get lucky about 70-80% of the time and will beat the pacer. Therefore no one paced, everyone spammed and there was no skill gap in a octagon 1v1 situation as long as both would aim decently.

Thus no bloom is a smart idea.

Savy?

  • 12.09.2011 3:20 AM PDT

Posted by: Timtaztix
yeah this reminds me of the time i got sent to jail for stealing crocs from target becozs i wanted all of the colors because i only got the green wons for my birthday and i wanted more ;)

Posted by: Onca Rapotee
Give me a logical reason on how no bloom takes more skill if its a simple task of point and shoot?

I'm one of the worst players who actually posts on this forum, so my answer most likely won't be the best, but I'll give it a shot.

I would assume it's because bloom made DMR duels more random. By removing bloom, the player with the better accuracy gains an advantage over the other.

  • 12.09.2011 3:21 AM PDT

I rarely lost to a spammer, maybe a few times out of my thousands of deaths.

What was the point of removing bloom and making the DMR more OP then it ever was?

Hell needle rifle is a power weapon now.
Posted by: Lord Donny
Cause Someone can land 5 shot on your before you can on them?

you can still kill someone if you land your shots at close range with a DMR when they are using a AR.

It was a simple task of point and shoot before there was no bloom, there was just a 50% chance your shot would hit or not.

This made it dumb cause if you pace, then a spammer will get lucky about 70-80% of the time and will beat the pacer. Therefore no one paced, everyone spammed and there was no skill gap in a octagon 1v1 situation as long as both would aim decently.

Thus no bloom is a smart idea.

Savy?


[Edited on 12.09.2011 3:23 AM PST]

  • 12.09.2011 3:23 AM PDT

Not to compare halo to other games.

But I'm a Battlefield player aswell, and no one ever complained about bullet deviation "Bloom".


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Posted by: Onca Rapotee
Give me a logical reason on how no bloom takes more skill if its a simple task of point and shoot?

I'm one of the worst players who actually posts on this forum, so my answer most likely won't be the best, but I'll give it a shot.

I would assume it's because bloom made DMR duels more random. By removing bloom, the player with the better accuracy gains an advantage over the other.

  • 12.09.2011 3:25 AM PDT

Posted by: Timtaztix
yeah this reminds me of the time i got sent to jail for stealing crocs from target becozs i wanted all of the colors because i only got the green wons for my birthday and i wanted more ;)

Posted by: Onca Rapotee
Not to compare halo to other games.

But I'm a Battlefield player aswell, and no one ever complained about bullet deviation "Bloom".
Posted by: MORTO_hi
Posted by: Onca Rapotee
Give me a logical reason on how no bloom takes more skill if its a simple task of point and shoot?

I'm one of the worst players who actually posts on this forum, so my answer most likely won't be the best, but I'll give it a shot.

I would assume it's because bloom made DMR duels more random. By removing bloom, the player with the better accuracy gains an advantage over the other.

Battlefield and Halo are two completely different kinds of games with different play styles and game mechanics.

  • 12.09.2011 3:31 AM PDT
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Zero Bloom allows something like this to happen.

Me getting 3 5 shot kills in a row

As opposed to having to slow down and let them trade 3-4 shots each time.

Bloom allowed for a higher chance of a worse player to land more shots. ZB with defualt Reach settings has a slightly higher skill gap, since you can't evade shots that much.
In ZBNS MLG you can strafe, thus allowing you to not get hit.

  • 12.09.2011 3:38 AM PDT


Posted by: Iron Div is Pro
Zero Bloom allows something like this to happen.

Me getting 3 5 shot kills in a row

As opposed to having to slow down and let them trade 3-4 shots each time.


Was worth the render.

That could and did happen with bloom but no one could care when it did because it was 100% luck and no skill.

  • 12.09.2011 4:35 AM PDT

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Posted by: Iron Div is Pro
Me getting 3 5 shot kills in a row


That was beautiful. If only Reach could have been that way at release...

  • 12.09.2011 4:40 AM PDT
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Posted by: SatansReverence

Posted by: Iron Div is Pro
Zero Bloom allows something like this to happen.

Me getting 3 5 shot kills in a row

As opposed to having to slow down and let them trade 3-4 shots each time.


Was worth the render.

That could and did happen with bloom but no one could care when it did because it was 100% luck and no skill.


Thanks for the render.

And agreed. If it were bloom even I would have said it was luck. Hell, I've beaten someone as a 1 shot, max bloom and for a 5 shot kill.

  • 12.09.2011 4:40 AM PDT
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Posted by: Iron Div is Pro
Me getting 3 5 shot kills in a row


Very nice.

I liked the missed overkill better though. That was gold.


[Edited on 12.09.2011 4:51 AM PST]

  • 12.09.2011 4:44 AM PDT
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Posted by: HerbalWalnut29
[quote]Posted by: Iron Div is Pro
Me getting 3 5 shot kills in a row

Very nice.

I liked the missed overkill better though. That was gold.


Due to my choke rate, I'm probably going to make a choke-tage. I have 2 other choke clips that are facepalm fails. Thanks though.

  • 12.09.2011 4:48 AM PDT

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Posted by: Iron Div is Pro

Posted by: HerbalWalnut29
[quote]Posted by: Iron Div is Pro
Me getting 3 5 shot kills in a row

Very nice.

I liked the missed overkill better though. That was gold.


Due to my choke rate, I'm probably going to make a choke-tage. I have 2 other choke clips that are facepalm fails. Thanks though.
Because you're bad.

  • 12.09.2011 4:50 AM PDT
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Posted by: iNinjaVVen

Posted by: Iron Div is Pro

Posted by: HerbalWalnut29
[quote]Posted by: Iron Div is Pro
Me getting 3 5 shot kills in a row

Very nice.

I liked the missed overkill better though. That was gold.


Due to my choke rate, I'm probably going to make a choke-tage. I have 2 other choke clips that are facepalm fails. Thanks though.
Because you're bad.


...Let me have glory for once. :(

  • 12.09.2011 4:51 AM PDT

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You did though :)

Up there ^ <3

  • 12.09.2011 4:52 AM PDT
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Posted by: iNinjaVVen
You did though :)

Up there ^ <3


<3 PHAGLUV. I'm out. Before this thread gets to off topic.

  • 12.09.2011 4:53 AM PDT

Keep reading, its not getting any better!

Its not so much now of being able to point in shoot because with out bloom it does take some skill away, the biggest thing i believe it adds skill to is the players skill to out DMR the other..

With bloom, You could stand still and you had a better chance of Out DMRing someone because of the bloom, it went right pass them. Now with bloom, the player has to move and not just stand there in a straight line with the DMR.

So i believe it is a test of the persons skills to move over point and shoot.

  • 12.09.2011 4:59 AM PDT
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Posted by: iNinjaVVen

Posted by: Iron Div is Pro

Posted by: HerbalWalnut29
[quote]Posted by: Iron Div is Pro
Me getting 3 5 shot kills in a row

Very nice.

I liked the missed overkill better though. That was gold.


Due to my choke rate, I'm probably going to make a choke-tage. I have 2 other choke clips that are facepalm fails. Thanks though.
Because you're bad.


I bet you have more.

  • 12.09.2011 5:01 AM PDT

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I don't choke.

lol, what a lie. Last night I missed a killtac in Anniversary Classic for an exterm.

  • 12.09.2011 5:03 AM PDT
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You big dummy.


  • 12.09.2011 5:09 AM PDT

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I blame the retardedly small magnum clip size.

>That awkward moments where I come across my killtac victim, while I'm 1 shot, with 2 bullets left in my clip.

I killed him, but had to reload :(

  • 12.09.2011 5:15 AM PDT

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MLG ZBNS is the best thing to happen to reach

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  • 12.09.2011 5:38 AM PDT
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Posted by: Onca Rapotee
I rarely lost to a spammer, maybe a few times out of my thousands of deaths.

What was the point of removing bloom and making the DMR more OP then it ever was?

Hell needle rifle is a power weapon now.
Posted by: Lord Donny
Cause Someone can land 5 shot on your before you can on them?

you can still kill someone if you land your shots at close range with a DMR when they are using a AR.

It was a simple task of point and shoot before there was no bloom, there was just a 50% chance your shot would hit or not.

This made it dumb cause if you pace, then a spammer will get lucky about 70-80% of the time and will beat the pacer. Therefore no one paced, everyone spammed and there was no skill gap in a octagon 1v1 situation as long as both would aim decently.

Thus no bloom is a smart idea.

Savy?


NR a power weapon? Lol Not at all.

  • 12.09.2011 5:44 AM PDT

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