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Posted by: Forest49

Posted by: pwnage79

Posted by: Forest49
no the pistol is the most skillful weapon

Posted by: Higgins31193
pwnage79, you have to understand that AR takes no skill it's for campers who crouch around corners and have poor BR skills, BR and sniper are the two most skillful weapons in the game.


I don't know why people call it bad, it's extremely useful in a lot of cases.


agreed i have out pistolled many people with brs and snipers


Same here, plus if you're smart, you can think about the situation you're in and how you can use dual wielding and the weapons around you to kick twice the ass as before!

  • 12.11.2011 1:48 PM PDT
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Posted by: Frasier Crane
I'm not making excuses. I never claimed to be good. I have never played any colonel better than me though.


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Posted by: pwnage79

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You're bad at this game because you're only a Commander with a negative Ranked kill death ratio. Also you think you're good with the BR and I can tell you right now you're not.

There's many reasons why you're bad but those stuck out more than the others.


Actually, I used to be terrible (started playing when I was a younger and sucked at all games) but after playing for years I've gotten a lot better. My K/D used to be around .60.


Congratulations, you've went from being a terrible player to a bad player, no one cares.

  • 12.11.2011 6:22 PM PDT
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Posted by: Forest49

Posted by: pwnage79

Posted by: Forest49
no the pistol is the most skillful weapon

Posted by: Higgins31193
pwnage79, you have to understand that AR takes no skill it's for campers who crouch around corners and have poor BR skills, BR and sniper are the two most skillful weapons in the game.


I don't know why people call it bad, it's extremely useful in a lot of cases.


agreed i have out pistolled many people with brs and snipers


LOL, anyone can out-pistol a person w/ a sniper if they can't noscope

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Posted by: pwnage79

Posted by: F4C3 0F D34TH
No offense but they are most certainly correct.


Because having your entire team shoot unsuspecting targets from a mile away takes sooooo much skill.
That's where awareness comes in. Lots of people who think they are good but really aren't have the mindset that all you need is a decent aim. Out br'ing someone is irrelevant most of the time when you're playing good people, and I'm hardly one to rank troll but at level 36 you rarely play good people.

  • 12.11.2011 7:19 PM PDT


Posted by: Frasier Crane

Posted by: pwnage79

Posted by: F4C3 0F D34TH
No offense but they are most certainly correct.


Because having your entire team shoot unsuspecting targets from a mile away takes sooooo much skill.
That's where awareness comes in. Lots of people who think they are good but really aren't have the mindset that all you need is a decent aim. Out br'ing someone is irrelevant most of the time when you're playing good people, and I'm hardly one to rank troll but at level 36 you rarely play good people.


I'm at 36 mainly because I get paired up with de-rankers and quiters and people who are just awful.

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All that is needed for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

You care what a-holes online think of your skill or lack of skill in a video game?

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I think you may be trying to troll but w/e. From your stats you aren't very good. Getting derankers and bad teammates isn't a good enough excuse especially when your k/d is still negative.
Needless to say, if you played good players you would realise the BR is not overpowered but a great all round weapon that is also the general skill measurement along with snipe.

  • 12.11.2011 7:43 PM PDT


Posted by: Gruntzilla24
You care what a-holes online think of your skill or lack of skill in a video game?


I'm just trying to understand what exactly is wrong with them.

  • 12.11.2011 7:58 PM PDT


Posted by: Frasier Crane
I think you may be trying to troll but w/e. From your stats you aren't very good. Getting derankers and bad teammates isn't a good enough excuse especially when your k/d is still negative.
Needless to say, if you played good players you would realise the BR is not overpowered but a great all round weapon that is also the general skill measurement along with snipe.


Actually, I used to be terrible (started playing when I was a younger and sucked at all games) but after playing for years I've gotten a lot better. My K/D used to be around .60.
I also see we're at a disagreement that trying to discuss would be about as effective as trench warfare.

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If you are so determined to prove you are good, send me an invite. I'll be on in about 15 mins.

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Posted by: Frasier Crane
I'm not making excuses. I never claimed to be good. I have never played any colonel better than me though.


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Posted by: Gruntzilla24
You care what a-holes online think of your skill or lack of skill in a video game?


He made the topic. All of the better players have verified he is bad, it isn't an opinion, it's a fact and nothing he can say will change that unless he actually gets better. We aren't a-holes for letting him know the truth.

  • 12.11.2011 9:07 PM PDT

The Tech Game

1,000,000+ Members, and still going strong!

You think it's overpowered? Wow.. only 4 shots to kill someone.. Well, 4 Trigger pulls.

  • 12.12.2011 12:34 AM PDT

People want BR starts because its the only utilitarian weapon in the game.

It's more of a test of skill & teamwork than just running around derping with the AR.

  • 12.12.2011 6:45 AM PDT

Posted by: ElementalRunner

Posted by: Commander Stroll
Still using a pump-action shotgun over 500 years in the future I see.

omg not realistic stop game production plz

BR starts are a lot better than AR starts. It really sucks if you're stuck with an AR whilst trying to fight a foe who has been lucky enough to pick up a BR.

Who doesn't love the staccato burst sound of a Battle Rifle?

[Edited on 12.12.2011 1:02 PM PST]

  • 12.12.2011 1:02 PM PDT

I run Skirmish!!!


Posted by: pwnage79

Posted by: F4C3 0F D34TH
No offense but they are most certainly correct.


Because having your entire team shoot unsuspecting targets from a mile away takes sooooo much skill.


that actually is what skill is. The skill to shoot someone across the map, the skill of the team to successfully team shot and the bad kid on the receiving end who lacks awareness and skill gets killed makes a post on a forum complaining about a balanced and fair weapon that takes skill to use. The AR is for the "spray and pray" nubcakes of halo.

  • 12.12.2011 4:35 PM PDT

50s in: Slayer, Doubles, Lone Wolves, Objective, Ranked BTB, Swat, Snipers.

The BR is not overpowered. Not in the slightest. The bullet spread makes it unreliable at long range, and the overabundance of close-range weapons makes it a poor choice in close range. It is simply the most versatile weapon, meaning it has the ability to kill in all three ranges; however, it does not dominate any one particular range.

The Halo 1 pistol required the most skill of any weapon in the Halo series.

  • 12.12.2011 6:06 PM PDT


Posted by: F4C3 0F D34TH
The BR is not overpowered. Not in the slightest. The bullet spread makes it unreliable at long range, and the overabundance of close-range weapons makes it a poor choice in close range. It is simply the most versatile weapon, meaning it has the ability to kill in all three ranges; however, it does not dominate any one particular range.

The Halo 1 pistol required the most skill of any weapon in the Halo series.


All wrong. The BR is actually effective at many ranges, even to about from the Base to the middle hill in Valhalla. Probably further. The BR easily beats every weapon that isn't a power weapon or headshot weapon in the sandbox. It beats all those weapons in their niche area very easily.

Now, how exactly does a 3-shot-kill weapon that has a scope and high range take skill, opposed to weapons that take a while to kill and require constant accuracy (AR) with? Don't say bullet magnetism or aim assist, those aren't very big factors.

  • 12.13.2011 11:52 AM PDT
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Posted by: pwnage79

Posted by: F4C3 0F D34TH
The BR is not overpowered. Not in the slightest. The bullet spread makes it unreliable at long range, and the overabundance of close-range weapons makes it a poor choice in close range. It is simply the most versatile weapon, meaning it has the ability to kill in all three ranges; however, it does not dominate any one particular range.

The Halo 1 pistol required the most skill of any weapon in the Halo series.


All wrong. The BR is actually effective at many ranges, even to about from the Base to the middle hill in Valhalla. Probably further. The BR easily beats every weapon that isn't a power weapon or headshot weapon in the sandbox. It beats all those weapons in their niche area very easily.

Now, how exactly does a 3-shot-kill weapon that has a scope and high range take skill, opposed to weapons that take a while to kill and require constant accuracy (AR) with? Don't say bullet magnetism or aim assist, those aren't very big factors.
either trolling or just have no idea what you're talking about
The BR is a 4 shot kill not 3. And it will not beat other weapons in their niche. Close range against a shotgun, sword or mauler I'm going to lose. Long range against a competent sniper and I can lose. The BR is great for most situations but there are weapons that outclass it. Otherwise nobody would bother controlling shotgun and sword.

  • 12.13.2011 12:48 PM PDT


Posted by: Frasier Crane

Posted by: pwnage79

Posted by: F4C3 0F D34TH
The BR is not overpowered. Not in the slightest. The bullet spread makes it unreliable at long range, and the overabundance of close-range weapons makes it a poor choice in close range. It is simply the most versatile weapon, meaning it has the ability to kill in all three ranges; however, it does not dominate any one particular range.

The Halo 1 pistol required the most skill of any weapon in the Halo series.


All wrong. The BR is actually effective at many ranges, even to about from the Base to the middle hill in Valhalla. Probably further. The BR easily beats every weapon that isn't a power weapon or headshot weapon in the sandbox. It beats all those weapons in their niche area very easily.

Now, how exactly does a 3-shot-kill weapon that has a scope and high range take skill, opposed to weapons that take a while to kill and require constant accuracy (AR) with? Don't say bullet magnetism or aim assist, those aren't very big factors.
either trolling or just have no idea what you're talking about
The BR is a 4 shot kill not 3. And it will not beat other weapons in their niche. Close range against a shotgun, sword or mauler I'm going to lose. Long range against a competent sniper and I can lose. The BR is great for most situations but there are weapons that outclass it. Otherwise nobody would bother controlling shotgun and sword.


That last paragraph was referring to the Magnum.

Oh
The BR easily beats every weapon that isn't a power weapon or headshot weapon in the sandbox.

  • 12.13.2011 12:50 PM PDT
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The magnum isn't a 3 shot kill either. It takes 5.

What other weapons are there on most maps apart from the BR, AR and power weapons? The spiker and needler. The needler is also better than the BR in some circumstances.
Seems like you want Halo to be more like Call of Duty where there are multiple weapons that do basically the same thing. If you think the BR is overpowered, use it yourself. If you don't spawn with one you can almost always pick one up easily.

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Posted by: Frasier Crane
I'm not making excuses. I never claimed to be good. I have never played any colonel better than me though.


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Posted by: pwnage79

Posted by: F4C3 0F D34TH
The BR is not overpowered. Not in the slightest. The bullet spread makes it unreliable at long range, and the overabundance of close-range weapons makes it a poor choice in close range. It is simply the most versatile weapon, meaning it has the ability to kill in all three ranges; however, it does not dominate any one particular range.

The Halo 1 pistol required the most skill of any weapon in the Halo series.


All wrong.


Stopped reading there. You're either trolling or mentally retarded to be calling Death wrong, he's probably played the game more than anyone left on these forums, he knows what he's talking about, you don't.

  • 12.13.2011 1:49 PM PDT

50s in: Slayer, Doubles, Lone Wolves, Objective, Ranked BTB, Swat, Snipers.

Well, he is a Commander Bar.

  • 12.13.2011 2:07 PM PDT

Posted by: Sentox6

Guess I'll have to defer to your expert and statistically robust estimates :(

I do like your tactic of being deliberately obtuse then accusing me of being stupid when I try to surmise what you're actually saying. Very clever.

You are all being trolled HARD

  • 12.13.2011 2:46 PM PDT

50s in: Slayer, Doubles, Lone Wolves, Objective, Ranked BTB, Swat, Snipers.

No, I think he's just a star bar.

He said exactly what I said: the BR is effective at all ranges. That's totally different than saying the BR is dominant at all ranges. It's not. Let me name the weapons that can contest the BR in their respective niche ranges:

Assault Rifle; Carbine; Sniper; Beam; Spartan Laser; Rocket Launcher; Shotgun; Mauler; Magnum; several dual combinations; Needler; Energy Sword; Gravity Hammer; Human Turret and all vehicles excluding Mongoose.

Gee whiz, the BR sure is unstoppable. I find it even funnier that you argue that when in this same thread you mentioned that you have out-magnum'ed people using BRs. You would never pull that off if the BR was as powerful as you say. The BR is only as powerful relative to the skill of it's user. It requires good strafing ability and precise aim, which is why most low-levels avoid it at all costs. The outcome of an AR battle is predicated on who sees whom first, which is why low-levels love it. You are a low-level. You are worthless. Goodbye.

  • 12.13.2011 3:55 PM PDT

Don't FxcK with Australian TS.
We will dominate you.

its not the br that is unstoppable, its the user.

  • 12.13.2011 3:59 PM PDT

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