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Posted by: HOOBLA 911
Posted by: Scapegoat413
So why not just collapse a person's post when they are on your ignore list? That way you know they posted, and if you really want to know what they said you don't have to unignore them, read the post and then reignore them.

That, in my opinion, would be perfect.
OP, This would be perfect.

[Edited on 12.11.2011 8:00 PM PST]

  • 12.11.2011 7:59 PM PDT

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Posted by: spartain ken 15
The reason I disagreed with it in that thread was becuase people wanted it for personal reasons to silence "certain" forum users becuase they disagree with their ideas.

I like how mods are the only people who can remove content and block users becuase I can see it causing problems.

On the flip side to this those are the people who are going to cause you (I mean the word "you" as a general overview not you in general) problems. Without that you won't have people that are going to disagree based on who the OP is. I think it would help out in the long run if this were implemented.

  • 12.11.2011 8:13 PM PDT
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I would love a way to silence individuals without use of a button that does not exist on my profile anymore...

  • 12.11.2011 8:32 PM PDT

Only if you can ignore what the mods say too

  • 12.11.2011 8:34 PM PDT

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Posted by: spartain ken 15
I think people need to learn self control. If you see a thread by a user you don't like, don't post in it. I think it is simple.
That's retarded, I want to go into the threads that interest me and not see mindless drivel that's always posted from a select few. If I don't want to see you, that basically blocks me from this entire forum if I'm to follow your suggestion.

100% in favour of this tool, but with the addition of the collapsed form that others have suggested.

[Edited on 12.11.2011 9:01 PM PST]

  • 12.11.2011 8:59 PM PDT

"You dead yet? No? You will be!"

"How you like them pears? Guess what I mean by pears."

"I'm gonna rip off his partridge and kick him in the pear tree!"

This is an excellent idea. Perhaps someone could make a script for this before it's available on the site.

  • 12.11.2011 9:03 PM PDT


Posted by: spartain ken 15

Posted by: Sgt Dippinbud
The arguments against something like this are weak. The arguments for it are extremely sturdy.

I would love to be able to ignore people on this forum. For every 1 person who is upset because nobody listens to them anymore...there are 25,000 people happy that they don't have to see the same crap rehashed a million times over.


Let me ask you this? Would you want to be on a forum where almost everyone ignored you and you can't participate anymore?


Nope. I wouldn't want to be on it, but that is really the point. If I annoy everybody then I am ruining the experience for all of them.

  • 12.12.2011 9:08 AM PDT

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- Dawes, A little bit of everything

I'm a proponent of this suggestion.

  • 12.12.2011 9:10 AM PDT


Posted by: Butane123
I would love a way to silence individuals without use of a button that does not exist on my profile anymore...


I was thinking, "What the hell is this guy talking about" and then I read your name and got confused..er.

Wasn't aware you were back in the masses.

  • 12.12.2011 9:11 AM PDT
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Yax is a shining beacon in these dark times. You should all strive to be more like Yax.

We already have a problem with redundant answers (thread asking a simple question with the same answer posted over and over by different people). Right now that's just because people are too thick to read the other posts in the thread but imagine how much worse it would be if people actually couldn't see posts.

A rather weak reason to be against it, I know, but that's just one example of how much messier it would make the forums. Also, elmicker is against it so I that probably means I'm picking the cool side.

  • 12.12.2011 9:16 AM PDT

Posted by: A Bit Of Zero
This thread would have appealed to me more if it was written with crayons.
Posted by: King Dutchy
I broke one of the cords for my X11s because I couldn't get past the final American course in Doritos Crash Course.

How about if the 'report' button collapsed the post automatically (for the person who clicked it), as well as collapsing for all members after a certain number of reports are made.

Maybe you could have a drop down on the report button that says:

'Collapse post'
'Collapse all posts from user in this thread'
'Collapse all posts from user'

[Edited on 12.12.2011 9:47 AM PST]

  • 12.12.2011 9:46 AM PDT

An ignore feature would be a blessing.

I would love to see something like this be tested.

If I ignore you, I cannot see any posts you make, but you can still see mine. PM's should be blocked from/to ignored people.

Threads created by people you have ignored should be visible, with an added colour or warning that it was created by an ignored user. If you click on that thread, you can still see its content, but cannot post a reply. If you want to reply, then you would have to un-ignore that person.

I would have an active list of the people I am currently ignoring, as well as a time indicator for how long I have been ignoring them. This will allow the functionality of changing my mind when I want. If I have ignored someone for a year, and decide to see if their posts have changed, I can un-ignore them.

I should also be able to see from that same list (or one like it) who is ignoring me. Since all communication with that person is blocked, it would really just be for information to have.

If I could ignore the people whose posting is not to my taste, my experience with this forum would be greatly enhanced.

  • 12.12.2011 9:46 AM PDT


Posted by: Izak609
Because bad users can change and good users can make mistakes.
Posted by: dazarobbo
Posted by: wallawalla1992
But then some people will probably just ignore users they don't like whether or not they broke the rules.
Why exactly is this a bad thing? They're still going to ignore the person anyway. They could go to another thread, another forum, site, or turn their computer off. The only difference is that the content is gone from their view and hence, the user's experience is enhanced.


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  • 12.12.2011 9:47 AM PDT

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I was going to start off by saying that this sort of thing would be much better suited to be a Greasemonkey script, because that way it's optional.

But then I figured that it's your own personal experience. I think that the collapsible post-feature that's already in-place with posts being reported enough times, should also apply locally. I see no problem with an option in the signature collapse that says "ignore" and pops up with a prompt that says:

[_] "Ignore all of [user]'s post in this thread ONLY"
[_] "Ignore ALL of [user]'s posts"
[Cancel]

And if you really want to have a look at a member's post that's been collapsed, you can easily expand it. It also means we don't have to wait for a Moderator to deal with spammers and rule-breakers, we can just report, ignore and move on. Then, in a similar way with how you can block PMs from people, there should be an ignore list accessible from your profile settings.

I think that that's a better solution than removing them entirely, as some people have been concerned over. Of course, that doesn't put them completely out of sight, so many may wish for them to be completely removed, but I think that that would result in a bit of a messy state.

Though, chances are, I don't see the Web team putting this into effect. For one thing, it's a trivial issue, more on the community's end than it actually being a detrimental design fault of the site. That, and I think Bungie will want to promote the community side of things, not give cause for a decline.

Although a counter argument to that could be that the Community would be better off, and thus more contented. I see no chance of segmentation. It's a personal experience; if anything if someone wants to block you from them, then you really don't want to have them read anything you have to say anyway, so why worry? You wouldn't notice, either. Because they wouldn't be replying nor reacting to anything you have to say (unless they see it in a quote, mind). They would be the same people that would only ever have something negative to say to you if they were going to say anything anyway, so I'm all for that sort of segregation. I don't know why more people aren't.

  • 12.12.2011 10:28 AM PDT

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I've never hated any specific person on these forums enough that I've wanted to block myself from seeing their posts entirely. That, coupled with the fact that I'd find it annoying to be reading a disjointed, incomplete version of the forums, is why I doubt I'd use an ignore feature.

  • 12.12.2011 10:36 AM PDT
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That's almost what I said, but instead of having the options to mute him forever, why don't we make it so that you mute them for a certain amount of time at most or until a moderator comes to take care of the reported user?
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  • 12.12.2011 10:44 AM PDT

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"I have no words that would do justice to the atrocities you commit to the English language, as well as your continued assaults on the concepts of basic literacy and logical reasoning."

That's not what he said - he doesn't want to ban people for disagreeing with him. He wants to be able to moderate his own view without affecting what others see (do you understand the difference?).

Specifically, he's talking about an idea I've tossed around a few times, where a user would be able to control his own view. Moderators would only exist to deal with global bans for stuff like shock site spam, and users would be given tools to "moderator" their view. For example, if you're being a jerk to me, I could click a button that says "ignore xecnalxes117 posts for a week". Nobody else would be able to tell this had happened, because they'd still see you. I just wouldn't have to read your stuff anymore.

Obviously, there are a lot of implementation details for this kind of thing, many of which have been pointed out. And then there is the matter if this is even a good idea or not. We're particularly concerned about how it could prevent users from becoming better users, as well as some users turning the forums into a sounding board that only echos their own opinion back to them. Although lots of you do that anyway without realizing it, so that may not be a concern.

While "spam" is the only thing you should ignore, what exactly is "spam"? Isn't it anything you don't want to see? Are political or religious threads spam? How about Brony threads? Armor Lock posts? Each of those threads could be spam, yet each of them aren't to others.

I don't know where this will take us, but I do appreciate the feedback. Your concerns are being noted. If we do decide to move ahead with something like this, it will be only after careful consideration of your feedback, both positive and negative.

Posted by: xecnalxes117
Spam is the only thing that people need to ignore. I mean actual spam, as in spamming the same things over & over again, or advertisements not relating to this website. Anything else, like this I don't care about. It's humorous. The OP states that he would have something like this removed. OP, if I'm wrong about anything, you weren't specific enough about thing things you want to ignore. All you said was annoying stuff (Which makes you sound like a communist. You wouldn't let some people post their opinions if it were up to you). I'm not mad at you, my text sounds like I'm raging, but I'm not. It's just that your opinion would conflict with a lot of other opinions, in a bad way.

  • 12.12.2011 11:15 AM PDT
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I would love to see a social graph of b.net posts.

  • 12.12.2011 11:24 AM PDT
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It'd probably look something like this.
Posted by: elmicker
I would love to see a social graph of b.net posts.

  • 12.12.2011 11:29 AM PDT
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As a new member to this site this feels a bit overbearing. I'm essentially given one chance to prove my worth to the community. Now i've been apart of other communities and kind of know the ropes of forum boards; but what of the absolute new member? It seems as though they'd be instantly disregaurded at the first sign of inadequacy.

I don't think this would foster any growth in membership. In fact, i'll go as far to say this may reduce population. When you fragment somthing it can never be as good as it was before.

Just my two bits.

  • 12.12.2011 11:32 AM PDT

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Posted by: dazarobbo
Posted by: wallawalla1992
But then some people will probably just ignore users they don't like whether or not they broke the rules.
Why exactly is this a bad thing? They're still going to ignore the person anyway. They could go to another thread, another forum, site, or turn their computer off. The only difference is that the content is gone from their view and hence, the user's experience is enhanced.
It encourages ignorance by facilitating it.

A real component of your argument behind hiding posts is that it would enhance a users' experience. When you ignore a poster, you literally disconnect yourself not from a subject but rather from every subject raised by a specific person. People do not post about one subject only, so you're also disconnecting yourself from a wealth of posts that may be relevant to your interests.

The issue is that you don't address the difference between what you want to see and what you need to see. A truly enhanced experience would expose us to information which would challenge and broaden our views. If we simply ignored things we found disagreeable or tasteless, we often would never learn.

  • 12.12.2011 11:34 AM PDT
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Posted by: spartain ken 15
I'm in support of a feature like this, and have been for quite a while, even before starting to moderate. See, I noticed that there were users who cluttered up the forum by constantly posting the same mindless drivel, but there wasn't anything I could do about it except do my best to ignore it, which is sometimes difficult when it's so prevalent.

I think people need to learn self control. If you see a thread by a user you don't like, don't post in it. I think it is simple.

But if you are in a discussion thread and you are blocked from users yet have valid points, your points go ignored and participation in threads becomes less and less fun. :/

I know that some people want this to target certain users (like myself apparently seeing that thread). And let me tell you, if a ton of people blocked me and my threads kept getting no replies and I wasn't acknowledged on the forums, I would start hating Bungie.net.


I could ignore posts that annoy me, but it doesn't change the fact that said person posted something stupid. It's always going to visible if I'm in a thread and I keep having to mentally notice posts by said person then filter them out of the conversation. It would be easier to just have the option to ignore them. And as far as you're concerned, if alot of people starting blocking you and your threads/posts, I think you should invest some effort into figuring out why you put so many people off, as opposed to hating B.net in general. Like someone else, you basically just stick your fingers in your ears and go 'la la la la everyone loves me I do no wrong'.

  • 12.12.2011 11:39 AM PDT

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Definately a concern. But playing devil's advocate to facilitate discussion:

This is a video game developer's board. A community formed around a shared form of entertainment. Shouldn't I be able to focus on the fun to the exclusion of the "divergent opinions" should I so choose? If I don't really care about learning or interacting or growing with the community, should I have to? Should the community drag me into the light so that it can grow as a whole, and is that growth positive? Or should it let me stay in darkness if I want, perhaps emphasizing the quality of those who do "stand in the light", so to speak?

Posted by: Duck duck DEATH
It encourages ignorance by facilitating it.

A real component of your argument behind hiding posts is that it would enhance a users' experience. When you ignore a poster, you literally disconnect yourself not from a subject but rather from every subject raised by a specific person. People do not post about one subject only, so you're also disconnecting yourself from a wealth of posts that may be relevant to your interests.

The issue is that you don't address the difference between what you want to see and what you need to see. A truly enhanced experience would expose us to information which would challenge and broaden our views. If we simply ignored things we found disagreeable or tasteless, we often would never learn.

  • 12.12.2011 11:46 AM PDT