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Posted by: dazarobbo
Posted by: insaneAssass1n9
Because lets be honest, some spammers only spam sometimes and if you block somebody after one spam how do you know they wont have something important to say later.
Since Rokit has just brought it up, if you block someone from sending you PMs, how do you know they won't have something important to say later?

It's a problem which currently exists.
I agree, but the nature of a private message block is based on the assumption that you don't want to hear what they, and they only, have to say.

Blocking a person in the forums will effect the entire discussion and distort your ability to comprehend what other people are directly responding to and are saying, not just that single person.

[Edited on 12.14.2011 9:19 PM PST]

  • 12.14.2011 9:09 PM PDT

The beta is super awesome. RogueAssassin27 is now the person who got my Totodile's nickname. Hoo-hah! Relevant.inb4lock

OKAY, LET'S CONCLUDE THIS CONVERSATION.

Anyone would like to round it up? I'm too tired to try and make all this up...

  • 12.14.2011 9:10 PM PDT

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Posted by: Chalupa King117
OKAY, LET'S CONCLUDE THIS CONVERSATION.

Anyone would like to round it up? I'm too tired to try and make all this up...
I'd say this would be the best route. I've pretty much read this entire thread and all points have been thoroughly argued. Good work guys! This has been great to see such passionate debates.

  • 12.14.2011 9:14 PM PDT

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time.

I know who you are.

You are Destiny.

Posted by: ctjl96
It doesn't exist anymore, and Apoc was banned for posting it.
Getting banned for posting it doesn't mean it magically went away. It's still available.

  • 12.14.2011 9:15 PM PDT

feartehstickman...
Posted by: toxicpanther615
the only problem i have with mine is that it's unstable,[very shakey],so you'd need a tripod for it.

Posted by: CJ Olvaid 360
Just drink a beer and everything will be ok

In my opinion, it would be better to have a system that minimizes the person you blocks posts (like a post which has been reported) and/or that only blocks their posts in a specific thread (perhaps in conjunction with the first).

This way, people can have the posts that they do not like hidden from them, but if they are in a thread and the discussion doesn't make sense, they can check the person's posts if they want to, to make sense of the thread.

Otherwise - this would lead to confusion when people completely miss a pivotal post in a thread.

[Edited on 12.14.2011 9:20 PM PST]

  • 12.14.2011 9:20 PM PDT

Unless he removed it. Which I'd honestly laugh if he didn't. I assumed he did.
Posted by: acnboy34
Posted by: ctjl96
It doesn't exist anymore, and Apoc was banned for posting it.
Getting banned for posting it doesn't mean it magically went away. It's still available.

  • 12.14.2011 9:20 PM PDT

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time.

I know who you are.

You are Destiny.

Posted by: ctjl96
Posted by: acnboy34
Posted by: ctjl96
It doesn't exist anymore, and Apoc was banned for posting it.
Getting banned for posting it doesn't mean it magically went away. It's still available.
Unless he removed it. Which I'd honestly laugh if he didn't. I assumed he did.
Why would he remove it? The script is hosted off-site on his own server...

  • 12.14.2011 9:21 PM PDT


Posted by: acnboy34
Posted by: ctjl96
Posted by: acnboy34
Posted by: ctjl96
It doesn't exist anymore, and Apoc was banned for posting it.
Getting banned for posting it doesn't mean it magically went away. It's still available.
Unless he removed it. Which I'd honestly laugh if he didn't. I assumed he did.
Why would he remove it? The script is hosted off-site on his own server...

Well, why would he keep it? It doesn't matter.

  • 12.14.2011 9:23 PM PDT

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time.

I know who you are.

You are Destiny.

Posted by: ctjl96
Posted by: acnboy34
Posted by: ctjl96
Posted by: acnboy34
Posted by: ctjl96
It doesn't exist anymore, and Apoc was banned for posting it.
Getting banned for posting it doesn't mean it magically went away. It's still available.
Unless he removed it. Which I'd honestly laugh if he didn't. I assumed he did.
Why would he remove it? The script is hosted off-site on his own server...
Well, why would he keep it? It doesn't matter.
Because he created it...?

[Edited on 12.14.2011 9:25 PM PST]

  • 12.14.2011 9:25 PM PDT


Posted by: Domi 233
In my opinion, it would be better to have a system that minimizes the person you blocks posts (like a post which has been reported) and/or that only blocks their posts in a specific thread (perhaps in conjunction with the first).

This way, people can have the posts that they do not like hidden from them, but if they are in a thread and the discussion doesn't make sense, they can check the person's posts if they want to, to make sense of the thread.

Otherwise - this would lead to confusion when people completely miss a pivotal post in a thread.
This a perfect solution to the problem that I was concerned about. It would effectively accomplish half of the problem at hand. It would only be hiding their responses in already established threads.

There also would need to be a way of indicating you of threads created by a blocked person. That way you would not have to waste your time opening the thread and then seeing that they are minimized/blocked.

  • 12.14.2011 9:28 PM PDT

feartehstickman...
Posted by: toxicpanther615
the only problem i have with mine is that it's unstable,[very shakey],so you'd need a tripod for it.

Posted by: CJ Olvaid 360
Just drink a beer and everything will be ok

Posted by: insaneAssass1n9
This a perfect solution to the problem that I was concerned about. It would effectively accomplish half of the problem at hand. It would only be hiding their responses in already established threads.

There also would need to be a way of indicating you of threads created by a blocked person. That way you would not have to waste your time opening the thread and then seeing that they are minimized/blocked.
*May have just taken other people's ideas and mixed them together*
Thanks to coolmike699 and Chalupa King117

[Edited on 12.14.2011 9:32 PM PST]

  • 12.14.2011 9:30 PM PDT
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Ah! The moment of brilliance just before sleep, how I love thee!

A large part of everyone against his idea is because discussions would be distorted and skewed. What if, along with the "Save Thread" button - assuming it gets its own spot in the newest hawtness - has an "Ignored Users: xx". If a user were to hover over it they can see all the users in the thread that are ignored. Following this, one could see all ignored posts with a single click, or allow specific users posts to bleed through and show.

It would be a rather quick fix, if anything - just thought I'd share.

[Edited on 12.14.2011 9:33 PM PST]

  • 12.14.2011 9:31 PM PDT


Posted by: Rokit
Ah! The moment of brilliance just before sleep, how I love thee!

A large part of everyone against his idea is because discussions would be distorted and skewed. What if, along with the "Save Thread" button - assuming it gets its own spot in the newest hawtness - has an "Ignored Users: xx". If a user were to hover over it they can see all the users in the thread that are ignored. Following this, one could see all ignored posts with a single click, or allow specific users posts to bleed through and show.

It would be a rather quick fix, if anything - just thought I'd share.
Not a bad idea. However, the whole point of this proposed change would be to streamline user experiences and save user time by avoiding annoyances. Forcing users to check to see who is blocked in a thread would cause for an increase work required and would be more time added to each viewing of a thread.

  • 12.14.2011 9:42 PM PDT
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Posted by: insaneAssass1n9
Posted by: Rokit
Ah! The moment of brilliance just before sleep, how I love thee!

A large part of everyone against his idea is because discussions would be distorted and skewed. What if, along with the "Save Thread" button - assuming it gets its own spot in the newest hawtness - has an "Ignored Users: xx". If a user were to hover over it they can see all the users in the thread that are ignored. Following this, one could see all ignored posts with a single click, or allow specific users posts to bleed through and show.

It would be a rather quick fix, if anything - just thought I'd share.
Not a bad idea. However, the whole point of this proposed change would be to streamline user experiences and save user time by avoiding annoyances. Forcing users to check to see who is blocked in a thread would cause for an increase work required and would be more time added to each viewing of a thread.

Forgive me, but you lost me here. If you mean that in a sense that you'd be forced to do it to make sense of a one in a million discussion, then yes.

It would just be there like Clippy from Microsoft Office, or Bnet 2.0, or even that little annoying blue question mark that's always on the screen. The information would easily, and quickly, be accessible; while not being in your face or forceful at all.

  • 12.14.2011 10:00 PM PDT


Posted by: Rokit
Posted by: insaneAssass1n9
Posted by: Rokit
Ah! The moment of brilliance just before sleep, how I love thee!

A large part of everyone against his idea is because discussions would be distorted and skewed. What if, along with the "Save Thread" button - assuming it gets its own spot in the newest hawtness - has an "Ignored Users: xx". If a user were to hover over it they can see all the users in the thread that are ignored. Following this, one could see all ignored posts with a single click, or allow specific users posts to bleed through and show.

It would be a rather quick fix, if anything - just thought I'd share.
Not a bad idea. However, the whole point of this proposed change would be to streamline user experiences and save user time by avoiding annoyances. Forcing users to check to see who is blocked in a thread would cause for an increase work required and would be more time added to each viewing of a thread.

Forgive me, but you lost me here. If you mean that in a sense that you'd be forced to do it to make sense of a one in a million discussion, then yes.

It would just be there like Clippy from Microsoft Office, or Bnet 2.0, or even that little annoying blue question mark that's always on the screen. The information would easily, and quickly, be accessible; while not being in your face or forceful at all.
You would be forced to check every single thread just to know whether or not you are missing anything. It may only be 1 in a million that you do miss something, but how do you know which one it is unless you check every single one.

  • 12.14.2011 10:03 PM PDT
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Posted by: insaneAssass1n9
You would be forced to check every single thread just to know whether or not you are missing anything. It may only be 1 in a million that you do miss something, but how do you know which one it is unless you check every single one.

Did I just enter the Twilight Zone? Who cares which one in a million it is, you'll only know after reading a thread you're interested in and some key information is missing. Then, one click later, you know everything.

Besides, if people are that afraid of missing out on something, they shouldn't ignore anyone....

  • 12.14.2011 10:15 PM PDT


Posted by: Rokit
Posted by: insaneAssass1n9
You would be forced to check every single thread just to know whether or not you are missing anything. It may only be 1 in a million that you do miss something, but how do you know which one it is unless you check every single one.

Did I just enter the Twilight Zone? Who cares which one in a million it is, you'll only know after reading a thread you're interested in and some key information is missing. Then, one click later, you know everything.

Besides, if people are that afraid of missing out on something, they shouldn't ignore anyone....
That is the thing though. You may not even realize that something is missing, and it still might distort the thread. It may not happen often, but it could happen, and that is not worth it to some people.

If this feature is going to be implemented all the angles have to be looked at. The whole point of the feature is to save time and streamline the experience, if you are going to implement something that you have to go out of your way to check on every individual thread, it is not going to save time.

[Edited on 12.14.2011 10:32 PM PST]

  • 12.14.2011 10:18 PM PDT
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After reading through all 18 pages, Ken has provided a very good example of why the ignore feature would be such a nice thing. He says that his posts are not spam, and that this feature is wrong because innocent members such as him, that don't spam or break rules, would get accidentally caught up in in and it would be a heartbreaking tragedy.

Yet, go back and read through the thread, and you'll realize that he repeats himself on pretty much every single page. Is that not spam?

If you've been here for longer than a day, you'll realize that this is something that he does in any major thread. He feels everyone has to see his opinion above anyone else, and so rather than posting once and then continuing the discussion based on how it is developing, he will just quote random people throughout the thread and continue to repeat and reinforce why he thinks something is good, or bad, with no development.

If there are some members on here that are going to get blocked by most of the members of the community forum, how is that a bad thing? What, because one person's experience is being ruined? One person's experience, versus hundreds of people's experience? Like I said in my other thread, if someone finds themselves at a point in this community forum, where they have been blocked by most of the members, and can't really add to a thread, maybe it is about goddamn time that they stopped trying?

This entire forum is based on the community, and if the community as a whole has decided that someone is annoying and in general ruining their experience, then it is about time that person packed their -blam!- and got the hell out.

But, then you say to me, "oh, but that isn't fair to me! I should have a right to post and everyone should have to see what I am typing!". Yet, that is the second rule of this website, you don't have any rights.

I still find that mindset to be incredibly arrogant, it is basically saying "I am important and you are not allowed to ignore my posts because I have to be heard!".

The other thing that is really annoying me about this thread, is:

Posted by: spartain ken 15
Well you and everyone else does not have to worry, I have no plans of going anywhere for the time being.

I find people here aggravating that act rude towards me for no reason. IDK what I have done to make people mad, it has to be more than being active? I am trying to change.

But what I am tired of seeing and makes my blood boil is seeing people telling me things like this, saying I am aggravating, WHAT AM I DOING WRONG?!?

This is really confusing me. I want to be a part of this community but many people here want me to leave for no reason.

*sigh

Maybe I should just stay in the Flood.


Why do you insist on playing so innocent, to the point of showing visible frustration? It's as if you have been posting for the past year not self-aware of anything other than your own posts. Someone flames you, and for good reason, and rather than saying to yourself, "hmm, maybe there is a reason I am being flamed, let's see what they are talking about", you instead just scream out that anyone flaming you should be banned immediately, because nothing you do is wrong.

I've read some of the PMs people have sent you, you know, the huge, six paragraph ones that I'm sure you could read if you went to your inbox right now? Maybe it is time you stopped ignoring them and decided to go back and start listening to some of the advice you have been given? Because, at least from the good ones that I read, there is some quality advice in there.

You feel that this hatred by the community is unjust, yet, little do you realize, the community has been patient with you, they've given you plenty of opportunities to change your behavior and posting methods on the forums, the community has attempted to sculpt you into a better member. Private messages, direct quoting on here, threads about you on here and in private groups where there is less restriction, hell, even flaming is constructive in a way, it's a more aggressive lesson (whether the person is banned or not is irrelevant, there is a reason you are being flamed, pay attention to it).

This is how I see your entire history on Bungie:

For the past year or however long you have been relevant, you have plugged your ears, sung to yourself "lalalala everyone loves me because I'm the best!", and willingly ignored all of the advice and hints given to you, in many forms. Now, with the entire community bearing down on you, and a new feature being proposed that would allow them to finally do something about you, you try to play the "I'm innocent" card?

Please.

  • 12.14.2011 10:38 PM PDT

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The feature is already available with clever use of Adblock Plus. Personally I wouldn't mind ignoring posts with certain keywords. Rather than ignoring users, I could instead ignore topics, like furry, brony, politics, ect.

  • 12.14.2011 10:40 PM PDT


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The feature is already available with clever use of Adblock Plus. Personally I wouldn't mind ignoring posts with certain keywords. Rather than ignoring users, I could instead ignore topics, like furry, brony, politics, ect.
Having to ad third party content to improve your experience should not have to be done.

  • 12.14.2011 10:46 PM PDT

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I'm not saying that, I'm simply saying it exists and can be done already.

  • 12.14.2011 10:47 PM PDT


Posted by: insaneAssass1n9

Posted by: Rokit
Posted by: insaneAssass1n9
You would be forced to check every single thread just to know whether or not you are missing anything. It may only be 1 in a million that you do miss something, but how do you know which one it is unless you check every single one.

Did I just enter the Twilight Zone? Who cares which one in a million it is, you'll only know after reading a thread you're interested in and some key information is missing. Then, one click later, you know everything.

Besides, if people are that afraid of missing out on something, they shouldn't ignore anyone....
That is the thing though. You may not even realize that something is missing, and it still might distort the thread. It may not happen often, but it could happen, and that is not worth it to some people.

If this feature is going to be implemented all the angles have to be looked at. The whole point of the feature is to save time and streamline the experience, if you are going to implement something that you have to go out of your way to check on every individual thread, it is not going to save time.


I am not sure what your argument is here. You are saying we shouldn't be able to block users because there is a 1 in a million chance that we might miss something that we most likely didn't want to see at some point in the future...maybe?

So you want to prevent us from making that possible mistake that we may at one point make?

That argument is feeble, at best.

  • 12.14.2011 11:55 PM PDT


Posted by: Sgt Dippinbud

Posted by: insaneAssass1n9

Posted by: Rokit
Posted by: insaneAssass1n9
You would be forced to check every single thread just to know whether or not you are missing anything. It may only be 1 in a million that you do miss something, but how do you know which one it is unless you check every single one.

Did I just enter the Twilight Zone? Who cares which one in a million it is, you'll only know after reading a thread you're interested in and some key information is missing. Then, one click later, you know everything.

Besides, if people are that afraid of missing out on something, they shouldn't ignore anyone....
That is the thing though. You may not even realize that something is missing, and it still might distort the thread. It may not happen often, but it could happen, and that is not worth it to some people.

If this feature is going to be implemented all the angles have to be looked at. The whole point of the feature is to save time and streamline the experience, if you are going to implement something that you have to go out of your way to check on every individual thread, it is not going to save time.


I am not sure what your argument is here. You are saying we shouldn't be able to block users because there is a 1 in a million chance that we might miss something that we most likely didn't want to see at some point in the future...maybe?

So you want to prevent us from making that possible mistake that we may at one point make?

That argument is feeble, at best.
My argument is that we should be saving users time, not adding bells and whistles that will become a nuisance.

I am not against adding an ignore feature. It just needs to be implemented in a way that has the least possible impact while also accomplishing it's goal.

  • 12.15.2011 12:01 AM PDT


Posted by: insaneAssass1n9


What you aren't seeming to grasp here is that it is optional. You wouldn't have to ignore anybody. This means that those that use it must take into account the results of their actions, sure, but they can also save themselves time and frustration by having the option.

  • 12.15.2011 12:18 AM PDT