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Unless I'm misreading what you're talking about.. I uh... I already did it.
Posted by: ExquisiteDragon
I'm not saying it either. However, it is his thread so who knows.
Posted by: Izak609
I'm only trying to explain that we shouldn't rely on him to do it.
Posted by: ExquisiteDragon
That's all well and dandy....doesn't mean the OP wouldn't want to. However, I cannot speak for him.

  • 12.18.2011 1:14 PM PDT

"Except we, we're the zebras. All fenced in...and ready for the slaughter!"

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Posted by: CrazzySnipe55
From what I've seen...

Reasons against:

-It would "break" the community due to all of the people ignoring each other. Communication in general would be negatively affected by everyone ignoring people over simple disputes.

-We don't need it. It is not a requirement for us to navigate BNet. We have the ability to ignore people without it.

-It's morally wrong.

-It's frivolous.

-People will, very likely, change over time. Due to the permanence of such a feature, people will not know that others have changed their attitude since the occasion of the initial "ignore", and possible GOOD communication is lost.

Reasons for:

-Some people contribute nothing valid to any conversation (in the opinion of the potential "ignorer"), and therefore their posts are not worth viewing.

-Someone is being harassed to a point that it isn't serious enough for the moderation staff to deal with it, but it is consistent enough for it to be a problem for the poster. Ignoring would solve the problem.

-It would make navigating BNet much easier without all of the detritus cluttering up their view and distracting from legitimate and quality posts.

-Nobody's experience except for the experience of the "ignorer" when the ignore button is implemented and "pressed".

-People wouldn't ignore others simply because of a single dispute or the occasional disagreement. They would do it because they legitimately don't value the majority of posts that the "ignoree" makes. Making the reason behind the ignoring legitimate.

If you have anymore that have been mentioned STRICTLY about the feature of ignoring a person FOREVER with the click of a button (whether the posts are GONE or just minimized), please let me know. I'm not going to go into every other idea discussed with reporting, minimizing specific posts, ignoring people for a period of time, etc...
Thanks for this. Okay, let's move on from here.

  • 12.18.2011 1:18 PM PDT
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Yeah, but it isn't really convenient to have to go to the middle of page 26 for the recap.
Posted by: CrazzySnipe55
Unless I'm misreading what you're talking about.. I uh... I already did it.

  • 12.18.2011 1:27 PM PDT

"Except we, we're the zebras. All fenced in...and ready for the slaughter!"

||S-fen Knee-cheh
||19th Shock Troops Battalion

Valid point. OP: Please post Crazy's synopsis in the OP?
Posted by: Izak609
Yeah, but it isn't really convenient to have to go to the middle of page 26 for the recap.
Posted by: CrazzySnipe55
Unless I'm misreading what you're talking about.. I uh... I already did it.

  • 12.18.2011 1:47 PM PDT
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So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.

-Gandalf

As nice as this would be I doubt it will happen. The only way to fix this is to kill the public forums....

WITH FIRE!

  • 12.18.2011 2:18 PM PDT

In a time long past, the armies of the dark came again to the lands of men. Their leaders became known as the fallen lords, and their terrible sorcery was without equal in the west.
In 30 years they reduced the civilized nations into carrion and ash. Until the free city of Madrigal alone defined them. An army gathered there, and a desperate battle was joined against the fallen
Heros were born in the fire and bloodshed of the wars which followed and their names and deeds will never be forgotten


Posted by: Decimator Omega
As nice as this would be I doubt it will happen. The only way to fix this is to kill the public forums....

WITH FIRE!


Uh.... NOPE

But you do raise a good point there, maybe people should try joining more private groups/making them and only include people they like.

  • 12.18.2011 2:23 PM PDT

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Posted by: spartain ken 15

Posted by: Decimator Omega
As nice as this would be I doubt it will happen. The only way to fix this is to kill the public forums....

WITH FIRE!


Uh.... NOPE

But you do raise a good point there, maybe people should try joining more private groups/making them and only include people they like.
That solves nothing. Stop trying to redirect discussion.

  • 12.18.2011 2:32 PM PDT

In a time long past, the armies of the dark came again to the lands of men. Their leaders became known as the fallen lords, and their terrible sorcery was without equal in the west.
In 30 years they reduced the civilized nations into carrion and ash. Until the free city of Madrigal alone defined them. An army gathered there, and a desperate battle was joined against the fallen
Heros were born in the fire and bloodshed of the wars which followed and their names and deeds will never be forgotten


Posted by: ExquisiteDragon
Posted by: spartain ken 15

Posted by: Decimator Omega
As nice as this would be I doubt it will happen. The only way to fix this is to kill the public forums....

WITH FIRE!


Uh.... NOPE

But you do raise a good point there, maybe people should try joining more private groups/making them and only include people they like.
Stupid, just plain stupid.


How is it stupid? You can discuss with all the people you want and not include people you don't.

  • 12.18.2011 3:06 PM PDT


Posted by: spartain ken 15
Throughout this entire thread, people have wanted to punish/ignore people who have done nothing wrong other than they don't like them.


Simply not liking someone is a good enough reason in my book.

With that said though, obviously you HAVE broken the rules on multiple occasions. How many bans have you incurred during your time on the forums? The playing the innocent act is not working in your favor. Time for plan B.

  • 12.18.2011 3:17 PM PDT

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No, no...

That's a bad idea.

Just becuase someone says something you say, might not agree with or something very minute, does not mean every post they make should disappear. Perhaps they said something funny, or had a great idea that relates directly to you.

Yes, you could say "Well don't ignore people, stupid."

Well what's the point then? It's created to be used in this sense, and if it's just for the people that don't like it, back the the main point of what if the poster said something useful or funny?


You could just have their posts collapsed by default, but even if you block everyone you see only once in a while you will see a collapsed post, which will intrigue you to expand it, defeating the point.


Bad, bad idea.



If you want a solution, bring down the hammer.

[Edited on 12.18.2011 4:20 PM PST]

  • 12.18.2011 4:18 PM PDT

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Posted by: Cowgoesmoo
You, like many others, are completely missing the idea. You don't ignore people just because you disagree with them. You ignore people who you legitimately don't like. You've hardly ever (IF ever) seen a post of there's you liked or thought was "good". You don't agree with anything they say. You don't like anything they post.

Then, and only then, do you ignore someone. And in that sense, it would work.

  • 12.18.2011 4:24 PM PDT

I spend too much time here.. too much time indeed.

I tweet?

Posted by: Cowgoesmoo
You could just have their posts collapsed by default, but even if you block everyone you see only once in a while you will see a collapsed post, which will intrigue you to expand it, defeating the point.

What? If all the posts of a particular user is collapsed then you know that you ignored them, if you know that you ignored them then you obviously had a reason for doing so. It doesn't defeat the purpose if you peek at one of their posts once in a while, that's the point of only having them collapsed rather than removed outright. This allows you to give a user a chance to, for a lack of a better term, redeem themselves.

If you want a solution, up the moderation.
No. You can moderate everything all the time, it's impossible. This idea is designed to lessen the burden on moderators and the dependence we have with them.

  • 12.18.2011 4:25 PM PDT

"We live in a special time; the only time where we can observationally verify that we live in a very special time" - Lawrence Krauss.

I was a finalist :P


Posted by: ExquisiteDragon
Posted by: Zealot Tony

Posted by: dazarobbo
Posted by: Zealot Tony

Sorry Dazza, ignore the cool-off section and re-adverse all criticism to the "Random generator section". I realised the problems with the cool-off, hence I removed it from my post, before you posted :P
I'll be blocking dumb ass twats like this fool for the rest of eternity...if we get the feature.

The idea like the "cool-off" would have been an irritating feature - having to deal with the person you're ignoring, and their possible crap - for whatever the time frame of being unable to ignore them is. This risk wouldn't be worth the possible reward.

The second idea is not of extreme importance, but it does aid convenience. The idea is that you can view an ignored users posts from one date to another, and get a random generator to spit out 10 posts the user has made within that time frame. If a user has made 1,000 posts in the space of 3 months and all ten posts - in terms of the ignorer's perspective - are fine, then it would be safe to say that the user should be given another chance to be listened to (the probability of finding 10 "good" posts out of a large number - while the rest were full of crap - would be small)

If the user doesn't like what they see in the end - in any case - they can simply re-ignore the user.

This probably revolves around the maxim that, while a user can change, would the way they have changed out their effect how they behave in here?

[Edited on 12.18.2011 4:37 PM PST]

  • 12.18.2011 4:37 PM PDT
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Whoo.

I think the "use self restraint" argument has proven to be ineffective, given that a user has been banned for discussing the opposition of the idea too ... vigourously.

Sometimes doing it is hard, it's understandable.
Wouldn't it be better to simply ignore the people you have trouble being civil around?

It would prevent a lot of unnecessary arguments.

  • 12.18.2011 4:39 PM PDT

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Haha 666 replies. I'm gonna ruin that but yes I think that the ignore feature would be a great edition to the Bungie forums. I see many useless posts throughout and there wouldn't be any disadvantages that I can think of.

  • 12.18.2011 4:42 PM PDT

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Posted by: MURDUR 587
I think the "use self restraint" argument has proven to be ineffective, given that a user has been banned for discussing the opposition of the idea too ... vigourously.

Sometimes doing it is hard, it's understandable.
Wouldn't it be better to simply ignore the people you have trouble being civil around?

It would prevent a lot of unnecessary arguments.
[H]agreed dude.

  • 12.18.2011 4:47 PM PDT

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Posted by: evilcam
Let's drop that right now.


[Edited on 12.18.2011 5:16 PM PST]

  • 12.18.2011 5:16 PM PDT

',:|

I'd only like to block "John Cena" posts and other undoubtedly ban-worthy material...
Could we just have a trial run of a bundled report/hide button?

  • 12.18.2011 5:36 PM PDT

"Except we, we're the zebras. All fenced in...and ready for the slaughter!"

||S-fen Knee-cheh
||19th Shock Troops Battalion

Posted by: xLAS3RP01NT3Rx
I'd only like to block "John Cena" posts and other undoubtedly ban-worthy material...
Could we just have a trial run of a bundled report/hide button?
This seems like the only way to settle this debate. Maybe have it exclusively on the septagon for 5-7 days?

  • 12.18.2011 6:17 PM PDT

I spend too much time here.. too much time indeed.

I tweet?

Posted by: Sven Nietzsche
Posted by: xLAS3RP01NT3Rx
I'd only like to block "John Cena" posts and other undoubtedly ban-worthy material...
Could we just have a trial run of a bundled report/hide button?
This seems like the only way to settle this debate. Maybe have it exclusively on the septagon for 5-7 days?

A proper test would need an environment that would deliver the greatest number of diverse scenarios to be tested with. As such I would suggest testing it in the forum with a great number of users and activity, to which I would suggest The Flood.

  • 12.18.2011 6:29 PM PDT

"We live in a special time; the only time where we can observationally verify that we live in a very special time" - Lawrence Krauss.

I was a finalist :P


Posted by: Specter Wolf
Posted by: Sven Nietzsche
Posted by: xLAS3RP01NT3Rx
I'd only like to block "John Cena" posts and other undoubtedly ban-worthy material...
Could we just have a trial run of a bundled report/hide button?
This seems like the only way to settle this debate. Maybe have it exclusively on the septagon for 5-7 days?

A proper test would need an environment that would deliver the greatest number of diverse scenarios to be tested with. As such I would suggest testing it in the forum with a great number of users and activity, to which I would suggest The Flood.

I think it should be tested site wide. You could think of each forum as a faction, and each of these factions has further sub-factions within. In order to deduce how it would effect the site as a whole, you would need to obtain data on all these factions, or as many as you can.

  • 12.18.2011 6:35 PM PDT

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Posted by: Specter Wolf
Posted by: Sven Nietzsche
Posted by: xLAS3RP01NT3Rx
I'd only like to block "John Cena" posts and other undoubtedly ban-worthy material...
Could we just have a trial run of a bundled report/hide button?
This seems like the only way to settle this debate. Maybe have it exclusively on the septagon for 5-7 days?

A proper test would need an environment that would deliver the greatest number of diverse scenarios to be tested with. As such I would suggest testing it in the forum with a great number of users and activity, to which I would suggest The Flood.
Civil, yet heated discussion seems to happen more in the Septagon, yet differing opinions on core values seems to occur more in the Flood. Yet flame wars happen most in the Reach forum.

Testing it in all thread would be best, imo.

  • 12.18.2011 6:38 PM PDT