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This thread has a few greats examples of where an ignore feature would be somewhat beneficial. While i easily just ignored some posts, i admit it was annoying scrolling for so long.


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  • 12.19.2011 12:18 PM PDT

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If anything, this thread has not only given alot of us enjoyment, its also given a list of ignorable candidates.

  • 12.19.2011 12:18 PM PDT

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Posted by: Decimator Omega
I don't go around quoting Bungie Employees and Forum Ninjas and "Worshiping them." That is what you do.


WAT

I don't think you have ever seen any of my posts becuase I don't "worship" any of the employees or mods. That sounds weird.

OT:
This thread is interesting.

A trial run of this feature would be good to gather statistics of who people block, for what reason, etc. But that is a lot for the webteam to do and make for a problem that isn't really "there".

I mean it is good to respond to users posts, just not enough people or users are effected for this to be useful. it is only a certain group of a few users, everyone else is fine.

[Edited on 12.19.2011 12:28 PM PST]

  • 12.19.2011 12:27 PM PDT

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OT: We need to test some of the ideas in here somehow. It'd be great for the community to come together over something such as this, in tinkering over Bungie.net, while waiting for Bungie to spill their soft words on Destiny.

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Posted by: Decimator Omega
I don't go around quoting Bungie Employees and Forum Ninjas and "Worshiping them." That is what you do.


WAT

I don't think you have ever seen any of my posts becuase I don't "worship" any of the employees or mods. That sounds weird.

  • 12.19.2011 1:22 PM PDT

Key

Just cause I hate to see a thread like this die:

I highly doubt we're going to see this feature implemented, as some have said, in a "trial". It isn't a game; there's no beta required. It's just a feature on a website. If it turns out to be site breakingly bad, it'll be worth the time to go in and remove the feature.

[Edited on 12.19.2011 7:27 PM PST]

  • 12.19.2011 7:26 PM PDT
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Posted by: evilcam
I also think ignoring should have a defined sunset. I agree that perhaps a dropdown menu with an "ignore for 1 month, 6 months, 1 year" set of options would be better than a permanent ignore. Perhaps multiple options wouldn't work, because I doubt people would ignore for a shorter duration than the longest option. I still think they're worth a shot though.

I agree that it should not completely hide ignored users. It should collapse ignored replies just as the report button collapses them, but it would not require a certain threshold to collapse. Just one would suffice, as only the user who is ignoring will actually collapse it from their individual view.

Perhaps Bungie should have another site beta to test something like this.


I like the idea of having an ignore button with a menu for how long to ignore someone. This would make the feature more flexible.

  • 12.19.2011 8:11 PM PDT

Posted by: evilcam
I also think ignoring should have a defined sunset. I agree that perhaps a dropdown menu with an "ignore for 1 month, 6 months, 1 year" set of options would be better than a permanent ignore. Perhaps multiple options wouldn't work, because I doubt people would ignore for a shorter duration than the longest option. I still think they're worth a shot though.

I agree that it should not completely hide ignored users. It should collapse ignored replies just as the report button collapses them, but it would not require a certain threshold to collapse. Just one would suffice, as only the user who is ignoring will actually collapse it from their individual view.

Perhaps Bungie should have another site beta to test something like this.
The only objection I would have to that is if it didn't include an "ignore permanently" option. If I need to continually go back and "re-ignore" someone, it's just going to become a hassle, especially if only short-term ignore lengths were able to be chosen.

There's one other idea that I'd like to bring up in regard to the reporting as well.

I'd say it's a bad idea for an ignore feature to be linked to the report button, as people may want to ignore someone for a reason which isn't in the rules. So subsequent reports are wasteful for us (moderators). I think that's already been established in the thread though, so on to the main point.

What if, instead of directly linked to reporting, the number of "ignores" a user has accumulated may be linked to them deserving of a blacklist or something. My rationale being that if someone is racking-up huge numbers of ignores (especially within a short amount of time) they may be breaking the rules in some manner.

I obviously can't go into specifics about how I think this would be presented in the report queue (not here anyway), but the general idea is that the community at large can indirectly generate a "community" report for a moderator to check out, but with no consequence to the users who have chosen to ignore the user if the moderator rejects the report.

I think this could account for the hypothetical problem (albeit almost non-existent) of users not reporting those ignored users because the reporter can't see the possible offending content since they've ignored them.

Thoughts?

  • 12.19.2011 10:02 PM PDT

Posted by: dazarobbo
What if, instead of directly linked to reporting, the number of "ignores" a user has accumulated may be linked to them deserving of a blacklist or something. My rationale being that if someone is racking-up huge numbers of ignores (especially within a short amount of time) they may be breaking the rules in some manner.

I obviously can't go into specifics about how I think this would be presented in the report queue (not here anyway), but the general idea is that the community at large can indirectly generate a "community" report for a moderator to check out, but with no consequence to the users who have chosen to ignore the user if the moderator rejects the report.

I think this could account for the hypothetical problem (albeit almost non-existent) of users not reporting those ignored users because the reporter can't see the possible offending content since they've ignored them.

Thoughts?
But what if someone is mass-ignored but they never actually break the rules, they are just generally disliked or their posts are of no interest to a large sum of people.

Yes, I know it is widely hypothetical but it is probable. A lot mentioned in this thread is hypothetical more than actuality. Just my input there, row-boat. ;)

  • 12.19.2011 10:05 PM PDT

Posted by: Lobster Fish 2
But what if someone is mass-ignored but they never actually break the rules, they are just generally disliked or their posts are of no interest to a large sum of people.

Yes, I know it is widely hypothetical but it is probable. A lot mentioned in this thread is hypothetical more than actuality. Just my input there, row-boat. ;)
Nothing at all.

  • 12.19.2011 10:08 PM PDT

Posted by: dazarobbo
Posted by: Lobster Fish 2
But what if someone is mass-ignored but they never actually break the rules, they are just generally disliked or their posts are of no interest to a large sum of people.

Yes, I know it is widely hypothetical but it is probable. A lot mentioned in this thread is hypothetical more than actuality. Just my input there, row-boat. ;)
Nothing at all.
As in, nothing would happen at all? That user would just be ignored and not banned?

  • 12.19.2011 10:09 PM PDT

Posted by: Lobster Fish 2
As in, nothing would happen at all? That user would just be ignored and not banned?
If they haven't broken the forum rules, then of course not. The idea is simply about harnessing the data available from ignored users and putting it to use.

  • 12.19.2011 10:12 PM PDT

Posted by: dazarobbo
Posted by: Lobster Fish 2
As in, nothing would happen at all? That user would just be ignored and not banned?
If they haven't broken the forum rules, then of course not. The idea is simply about harnessing the data available from ignored users and putting it to use.
Gotcha, that seems logical and very effective. +1 smarts for you.

Do you actually see this being implemented though?

  • 12.19.2011 10:27 PM PDT

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Posted by: Lobster Fish 2
Posted by: dazarobbo
Posted by: Lobster Fish 2
As in, nothing would happen at all? That user would just be ignored and not banned?
If they haven't broken the forum rules, then of course not. The idea is simply about harnessing the data available from ignored users and putting it to use.
Gotcha, that seems logical and very effective. +1 smarts for you.

Do you actually see this being implemented though?
If I may interject (for lack of a response), I think it's highly likely it will get implemented in some way, shape, form, or manner. Achronos, if not entirely for the ideas presented, seems very interests in the concept itself. And, considering it's on the latter end of the scale on the way to 1000, the community seems highly engrossed in discussion as well.

So I think it will be implemented even if it's form is as primitive as the ability to minimize specific posts, or, adversely, as complex as a hybrid of evilcam's ignoring idea and duardo's thoughts on a more sophisticated report system.

  • 12.20.2011 2:39 AM PDT

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Posted by: Lobster Fish 2
Do you actually see this being implemented though?

It's all a matter of determining if the web-team believes it would help maximise the experiences of users in this community.

  • 12.20.2011 2:56 AM PDT

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In which case, there is no reason as to why they should not with regards to our bungie.net experience being maximized.

Posted by: Zealot Tony

Posted by: Lobster Fish 2
Do you actually see this being implemented though?

It's all a matter of determining if the web-team believes it would help maximise the experiences of users in this community.

  • 12.20.2011 5:06 AM PDT

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I don't know if I like that idea... people would surely abuse it to the great annoyance of whoever has been 'ignored' by the other member.

They could do stuff like get in an argument, get pissed because they were losing, then ignore you and you can never talk to them again, it could exclude you from taking part in any other discussion they were involved in because they ignored you. I don't like that at all...

People already abuse the ability to block PMs, a guy once blocked me just because of an argument we had over PMs and now I can't contact that member ever again. I wasn't done with that argument.

  • 01.02.2012 6:27 PM PDT