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Posted by: Horse Repairman
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Hymn the problem is that although pacing guarantees the kill assuming good aim, you can still lose to a spammer who gets the kill on you faster. And the speed of the kill is also a factor that makes spamming more appealing.

  • 12.12.2011 12:53 PM PDT

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  • 12.12.2011 12:53 PM PDT
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Posted by: Puma xSDSx


/nolinkedgamertag
You could be OP for all I care. /End thread.


Avoiding me because I asked you to prove me wrong is not a valid argument. I choose to hide my stats so I don't get stat trolled. It is funny how your only argument after proven to be wrong is to look for stats.

So your excuse is to label me an alt of the OP? I suppose you still don't understand basic logic.

  • 12.12.2011 12:59 PM PDT

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Posted by: Hymn
That's a possible total of 4 additional shots to my 5 un-spammed bullets to the head. Do the mathematics for that.

Why the -blam!- would you fire five shots to the head? It's not the olympics, you don't get points for degree of difficulty.

Posted by: Hymn
if 50/50 is lesser than 100, and 5 is less than 7? You must agree distance is irrelevant?

Holy -blam!-. People cannot be this stupid in real life. The world would not function. Wtf.

[Edited on 12.12.2011 1:07 PM PST]

  • 12.12.2011 1:05 PM PDT

Posted by: Recon Number 54
Life is a journey, if you spend all of it with your nose in your map, you may miss some of the best parts.

So a bloom lovers logic is....

Pacing takes skill?
ZB breaks the game?
Too consistent?
Good players will always win?

  • 12.12.2011 1:08 PM PDT


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Posted by: Hymn
That's a possible total of 4 additional shots to my 5 un-spammed bullets to the head. Do the mathematics for that.

Why the -blam!- would you fire five shots to the head? It's not the olympics, you don't get points for degree of difficulty.

Posted by: Hymn
if 50/50 is lesser than 100, and 5 is less than 7? You must agree distance is irrelevant?

Holy -blam!-. People cannot be this stupid in real life. The world would not function. Wtf.

Jesus christ, thank you.

  • 12.12.2011 1:10 PM PDT
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So a bloom lovers logic is....

Pacing takes skill?
ZB breaks the game?
Too consistent?
Good players will always win?

OP is probably only play the TU playlist. It is a problem there since they haven't increased movement speed to allow strafing.

  • 12.12.2011 1:11 PM PDT
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Posted by: RC Clone
Hymn the problem is that although pacing guarantees the kill assuming good aim, you can still lose to a spammer who gets the kill on you faster.


This means that 50/50 is greater than 100% accurate. You don't have to shoot your opponent 5 times in the visor for you to get the 5 shot kill. Your aim only needs to be relatively decent. Auto aim does a lot of work for you.


And the speed of the kill is also a factor that makes spamming more appealing.

The speed is relatively the same. a 1-3 second difference is hardly noticeable when speaking of RoF. Hell, most people play with 8ms input lag on their Tv (this refers to things like refresh rate) and they do just fine. By the way, the lag is actually a 1-2 second lag in the game. In some rare cases I have seen the lag extend up to 3 seconds. None of this includes network lag.

[Edited on 12.12.2011 1:13 PM PST]

  • 12.12.2011 1:11 PM PDT

Hymn, you hide your stats because you're bad.
Because you have NO idea how this game works.

LOL 1-3 seconds makes no difference in Halo LOL

  • 12.12.2011 1:15 PM PDT

Posted by: Recon Number 54
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Posted by: RustedEdge
So a bloom lovers logic is....

Pacing takes skill?
ZB breaks the game?
Too consistent?
Good players will always win?

OP is probably only play the TU playlist. It is a problem there since they haven't increased movement speed to allow strafing.


I play the TU to warm up for MLG. Even then it's not a good warm up.

  • 12.12.2011 1:16 PM PDT
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Posted by: Horse Repairman
RC RuNz the internet. Like the superintendent.

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RC Clone is the anti-thesis of a lurker.


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Posted by: RC Clone
Hymn the problem is that although pacing guarantees the kill assuming good aim, you can still lose to a spammer who gets the kill on you faster.


This means that 50/50 is greater than 100% accurate. You don't have to shoot your opponent 5 times in the visor for you to get the 5 shot kill. Your aim only needs to be relatively decent. Auto aim does a lot of work for you.


And the speed of the kill is also a factor that makes spamming more appealing.

The speed is relatively the same. a 1-3 second difference is hardly noticeable when speaking of RoF. Hell, most people play with 8ms input lag on their Tv (this refers to things like refresh rate) and they do just fine. By the way, the lag is actually a 1-2 second lag in the game. In some rare cases I have seen the lag extend up to 3 seconds. None of this includes lag.

1. 50% is more when the pacer is dead and spammer gets away clean. When spamming works it gets the kill faster than pacing. The percentages you're putting down assume the other person isn't shooting. In an actual game where it's spammer vs. pacer the pacer may win some of the time, but god it's frustrating when the spammer wins instead.

2. WTF? When did I say anything about screen lag or lag in general? Also; What kind of connection do you play on to have a whole second or more of lag every game you play?

  • 12.12.2011 1:16 PM PDT

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[Edited on 12.12.2011 1:19 PM PST]

  • 12.12.2011 1:18 PM PDT

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Posted by: Hymn
This means that 50/50 is greater than 100% accurate. You don't have to shoot your opponent 5 times in the visor for you to get the 5 shot kill. Your aim only needs to be relatively decent. Auto aim does a lot of work for you.

What the hell are you rambling about? Look, this is very, very simple.

At mid range, a spammer can easily fire 7+ bullets in the time it takes you to pace a 5 shot kill. Depending on how the random distribution of shots turns out, they might get a five shot kill or a six shot kill and win the fight. Yes, pacing is reliable, but spammers can and do get lucky, and not infrequently. Add bullet magnetism and a teamshot scenario to this, and spamming becomes a dominant strategy. Plus, spammers have less of a burden in terms of accuracy requirements, thanks to their expanded reticle and gambling strategy.

There is nothing fair about a spammer turning around after you've put two shots into them and getting a lucky five shot kill. They should lose 100% of the time if your accuracy is good, not 80% of the time or 50% of the time. Unless bloom can be adjusted to make that the case without slowing gameplay or over-powering teamshooting, zero bloom is superior.

[Edited on 12.12.2011 1:21 PM PST]

  • 12.12.2011 1:19 PM PDT


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Posted by: Puma xSDSx


/nolinkedgamertag
You could be OP for all I care. /End thread.


Avoiding me because I asked you to prove me wrong is not a valid argument. I choose to hide my stats so I don't get stat trolled. It is funny how your only argument after proven to be wrong is to look for stats.

So your excuse is to label me an alt of the OP? I suppose you still don't understand basic logic.


Are YOU done now that you can understand basic logic?

  • 12.12.2011 1:29 PM PDT
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Auto-Aim
ZB
Faster movement

gee take out all the fun in shooting... just hold the trigger whenever your reticule move on its own? why not auto-head-aim now?

or will that break the game too?

its a matter of opinion, not fact, fact is you like this, fact is I like that, get over it

fact is I got a life, and its not called Reach, the game is good, its not perfect, no game are, deal with it

  • 12.12.2011 1:57 PM PDT


Posted by: ManualLive
Auto-Aim
ZB
Faster movement

gee take out all the fun in shooting... just hold the trigger whenever your reticule move on its own? why not auto-head-aim now?

or will that break the game too?

its a matter of opinion, not fact, fact is you like this, fact is I like that, get over it

fact is I got a life, and its not called Reach, the game is good, its not perfect, no game are, deal with it


Wut.

  • 12.12.2011 1:59 PM PDT
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Posted by: Horse Repairman
RC RuNz the internet. Like the superintendent.

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Puma

He said I like the changes and you don't. Get over yourself, OP.

  • 12.12.2011 2:01 PM PDT

Posted by: Recon Number 54
Life is a journey, if you spend all of it with your nose in your map, you may miss some of the best parts.


Posted by: ManualLive
fact is I got a life, and its not called Reach, the game is good, its not perfect, no game are, deal with it


That's so relevant.

  • 12.12.2011 2:02 PM PDT


Posted by: RC Clone
Puma

He said I like the changes and you don't. Get over yourself, OP.


lol Thanks, really, thanks. I was so lost there.

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Why are people still flaming this thread?

  • 12.12.2011 2:50 PM PDT


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You're retarded.

  • 12.12.2011 3:06 PM PDT


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You're retarded.

  • 12.12.2011 3:41 PM PDT

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