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Subject: halo vs X (more powerful=/= better)

The bible is the best book Ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I AM A PROUD CHRISTIAN. HALO IS AWESOME BUT GOD IS MUCH BETTER!!!!!!!!
Did you knew that JESUSdied for you?

Universe/character fights are pointless when trying to prove how inferior/superior is halo to other fictional works. I will show you the reason:

Let's just say I created a very powerful character let's call her Mary-godSue.

My OC MarygodSue is the goddess of all the multiverse, most beautiful being, literally knows everything that is/was,couldbe/is ( omnicient), omnipotent and in full control of every aspect of reality, she also has the power to be x999999999999 ad infinitum times more powerful than whoever she is fighting and to copy any power of anyone but with x777777 strength.


She also has literally zero backstory/personality or anything interesting because I just made her up.

Now I want her to fight let's say the whole 40k universe,halo universe/star trek/starwars Batman, goku,naruto superman, thor, iron man,galactus, beyonder, phoenix force? (insert your favorite character/universe here)

My character could beat any character/universe by herself and therefore she is better than any character that actually has a personality and an interesting story.... or is it?Of course not!

As you may have noticed any one can give any ridiculous amount of power to any fictional character and that is in no way a sign of being better. That's why the macho way of superiority (more powerfu=better) isn't true regarding fictional characters

Not forgetting that at the end of the day the best work is the one you like best.

Heroes are supposed to beat enemies that are much more powerful than them...Remember Masterchief beating the flood and the covenant. all of those could have killed the chief in an instant (if they all attacked him at the same time)

Remeber the rookie and how cool it was that a normal human odst could beat many covenants more powerful than him alone?

Judging a hero specially (a hero from halo) just by powerlevels is completely missing the point of being a hero and the halo universe as a whole.

tl:DR I can recomend you a school for people with special needs.

[Edited on 12.16.2011 1:09 AM PST]

  • 12.16.2011 12:49 AM PDT

There's a treasure for all of us. For some it's a friend others find a pet and many a lover. The whole adventure is finding where it's hidden.

That treasure doesn't include my avatar, you copycat.

- Treasure Island

I think you are being mean. There's nothing wrong with people comparing their favourite characters in many and wildly different ways, and creating a whole new thread for this is rather ridiculous.

  • 12.16.2011 12:57 AM PDT

The bible is the best book Ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I AM A PROUD CHRISTIAN. HALO IS AWESOME BUT GOD IS MUCH BETTER!!!!!!!!
Did you knew that JESUSdied for you?


Posted by: Treasure Island
I think you are being mean. There's nothing wrong with people comparing their favourite characters in many and wildly different ways, and creating a whole new thread for this is rather ridiculous.


you are completely missing the point and strawman.In simple terms:

Comparisons with halo= good

Claiming superiority by comparisons with halo characters =bad

[Edited on 12.16.2011 1:07 AM PST]

  • 12.16.2011 1:05 AM PDT

There's a treasure for all of us. For some it's a friend others find a pet and many a lover. The whole adventure is finding where it's hidden.

That treasure doesn't include my avatar, you copycat.

- Treasure Island

I don't understand.
Posted by: BestSpartan117
you are completely missing the point and strawman.In simple terms:

Comparisons with halo= good

Claiming superiority by comparisons with halo characters =bad

  • 12.16.2011 1:12 AM PDT

goku wins no matter what

[Edited on 12.16.2011 3:17 AM PST]

  • 12.16.2011 3:16 AM PDT


Posted by: BestSpartan117

Posted by: Treasure Island
I think you are being mean. There's nothing wrong with people comparing their favourite characters in many and wildly different ways, and creating a whole new thread for this is rather ridiculous.


you are completely missing the point and strawman.In simple terms:

Comparisons with halo= good

Claiming superiority by comparisons with halo characters =bad

no dude ur missing the point!!
people do this because its fun.

  • 12.16.2011 3:18 AM PDT

I woke up just now so I don't have the patience to read the whole thing, but if what you're implying is that vs. threads are made to display some sort of percieved 'superiority' where Halo is concerned, your quite mistaken. We do it for fun--though it quickly turns from that.

Edit: it does look like that's what you think we think. I can honestly say I've got no clue where you got the notion that all we believe makes a good character is his his/her/it's martial prowess. My personal favorite character from Halo would probably be a tie between Johnson, Cortana, Halsey or the Chief. And I like the Chief because he's mysterious; I have a penchant for interest where characters who don't talk are concerned, it makes the brief snippets of emotion and humanity he portrays all the more important.

Of course he's an icon as a galactic badass, but that's secondary.

[Edited on 12.16.2011 4:23 AM PST]

  • 12.16.2011 4:19 AM PDT
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Posted by: BestSpartan117

tl:DR I can recomend you a school for people with special needs.

Really? Was that really necessary? At no point in my thread did I say Halo is better than Warhammer and that people who like Warhammer are wrong. That was a thread made for fun, not to change people's opinions of the universe they like.

  • 12.16.2011 4:25 AM PDT


Posted by: MAC Blast

Posted by: BestSpartan117

tl:DR I can recomend you a school for people with special needs.

Really? Was that really necessary? At no point in my thread did I say Halo is better than Warhammer and that people who like Warhammer are wrong. That was a thread made for fun, not to change people's opinions of the universe they like.


I can't tell who's the more ignorant: the fictional person who thinks bigger guns=better, or the person who thinks we're retarded for believing in something we don't actually believe in.

OP what I'm basically saying is: you're wrong. We do not think that way.

  • 12.16.2011 4:29 AM PDT
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06' Master Race.

Posted by: BestSpartan117
Universe/character fights are pointless

  • 12.16.2011 10:07 AM PDT

The bible is the best book Ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I AM A PROUD CHRISTIAN. HALO IS AWESOME BUT GOD IS MUCH BETTER!!!!!!!!
Did you knew that JESUSdied for you?

Strawman read the first line at least. I never said character fights were wrong... I even commented in your thread.

I am not saying every b.net user ever is like this, either.I know most do it for fun.

To everyone else Tl;Dr? I won't even bother with you.
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Posted by: BestSpartan117

tl:DR I can recomend you a school for people with special needs.

Really? Was that really necessary? At no point in my thread did I say Halo is better than Warhammer and that people who like Warhammer are wrong. That was a thread made for fun, not to change people's opinions of the universe they like.


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  • 12.16.2011 11:45 AM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

No-one does Halo vs Y Universe to try to see which one is better as far as characters and story goes (usually), it's a battle of the entire universes. That's where the interest lies, who can kick whose ass.

  • 12.16.2011 12:10 PM PDT

The bible is the best book Ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I AM A PROUD CHRISTIAN. HALO IS AWESOME BUT GOD IS MUCH BETTER!!!!!!!!
Did you knew that JESUSdied for you?



I am not against thread openers.
Posted by: dahuterschuter
No-one does Halo vs Y Universe to try to see which one is better as far as characters and story goes (usually), it's a battle of the entire universes. That's where the interest lies, who can kick whose ass.

  • 12.16.2011 12:48 PM PDT

I am alpha, i am omega.

I am the last of the primes.

This thread has backfired at you op.

  • 12.16.2011 1:18 PM PDT

The bible is the best book Ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I AM A PROUD CHRISTIAN. HALO IS AWESOME BUT GOD IS MUCH BETTER!!!!!!!!
Did you knew that JESUSdied for you?

How? I stated my opinio mission accomplished.

It's bungie.net I don't realistically expect to change anyone's opinion. Not one of the people that replied actually read it.

But I am sure some people that didn't reply did.

[Edited on 12.16.2011 2:09 PM PST]

  • 12.16.2011 2:07 PM PDT
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You don't get that reference.

2 83457 4 u.

Halo n3w8. FPS n3w8.

Agreed entirely; to quote Halsey, "He (John) is nether the strongest nor the fastest nor the smartest of the Spartans. But he is the bravest, and possibly the luckiest. And in my opinion, he is the best."

She judges Spartans according to their actions, effort, and willpower, and as a result, her favorite is Chief.

[Edited on 12.16.2011 6:06 PM PST]

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Five exclamations marks are a good signifier of an insane mind. As is trying to hide from Death in an airtight room. Silly wizard.


Posted by: BestSpartan117
How? I stated my opinio mission accomplished.

It's bungie.net I don't realistically expect to change anyone's opinion. Not one of the people that replied actually read it.

But I am sure some people that didn't reply did.

Jumping to conclusions much? I read your entire thread but because I only chose to comment on one line means I read none of it? Perhaps you should consider the fact that people prefer different universes for different reasons and that we don't believe that because MarygodSue can destroy everything she is a better character. Give me a well developed character and I will enjoy them, it doesn't matter to me whether or not they can destroy everyone by snapping their fingers.

  • 12.16.2011 6:18 PM PDT

It's like Cowboys and Aliens.

  • 12.16.2011 6:52 PM PDT

The bible is the best book Ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I AM A PROUD CHRISTIAN. HALO IS AWESOME BUT GOD IS MUCH BETTER!!!!!!!!
Did you knew that JESUSdied for you?

Hard to believe you actually read it when I said that

1.-"the best" was the one you liked best, as you are implying that I didn't.
2.-Never said I was against you specifically and I said it wasn't for all b.net users. Just to be clear The thread wasn't aimed to you
3.- I did said that character development/background was more important than power. I don't know were you are getting that I didn't
4.- Obviosuly mary sue god is a bad character.I never implied otherwise.

In case I am mistaken thanks for reading the thread.
Posted by: MAC Blast

Posted by: BestSpartan117
How? I stated my opinio mission accomplished.

It's bungie.net I don't realistically expect to change anyone's opinion. Not one of the people that replied actually read it.

But I am sure some people that didn't reply did.

Jumping to conclusions much? I read your entire thread but because I only chose to comment on one line means I read none of it? Perhaps you should consider the fact that people prefer different universes for different reasons and that we don't believe that because MarygodSue can destroy everything she is a better character. Give me a well developed character and I will enjoy them, it doesn't matter to me whether or not they can destroy everyone by snapping their fingers.


[Edited on 12.16.2011 6:56 PM PST]

  • 12.16.2011 6:53 PM PDT

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You have completely missed the point here.

However, as I feel obliged to explain my opinions here, I shall do so.

Vs. threads are almost always about who would win in a fight, not which is the better universe in terms of depth or storytelling.

  • 12.16.2011 10:29 PM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: Zero Reaper
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You have completely missed the point here.

However, as I feel obliged to explain my opinions here, I shall do so.

Vs. threads are almost always about who would win in a fight, not which is the better universe in terms of depth or storytelling.

No, you think that is what they would be about. Majority of the people only pick the universe they know the most about or like the best. They should all just be banned since those type of people ruin it for the unbiased ones.

  • 12.16.2011 10:35 PM PDT


Posted by: grey101

Posted by: Zero Reaper
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You have completely missed the point here.

However, as I feel obliged to explain my opinions here, I shall do so.

Vs. threads are almost always about who would win in a fight, not which is the better universe in terms of depth or storytelling.

No, you think that is what they would be about. Majority of the people only pick the universe they know the most about or like the best. They should all just be banned since those type of people ruin it for the unbiased ones.


Agreed. I am extremely knowledgable in both the Warhammer and Halo universes (having been completely and utterly obsessed with both of them at different parts of my life) to use an example from a recent thread, and they simply aren't comparable in terms of power.

They shouldn't be banned (they are, admittedly, very enjoyable), but in all seriousness, one needs to read through those threads, work out who the knowledgable and unbiased people are, and then apply only those to the argument, ignoring everyone else.

  • 12.16.2011 10:42 PM PDT

The bible is the best book Ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I AM A PROUD CHRISTIAN. HALO IS AWESOME BUT GOD IS MUCH BETTER!!!!!!!!
Did you knew that JESUSdied for you?

It's hard to be knowledge in halo to be sure.
Posted by: Zero Reaper

Posted by: grey101

Posted by: Zero Reaper
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You have completely missed the point here.

However, as I feel obliged to explain my opinions here, I shall do so.

Vs. threads are almost always about who would win in a fight, not which is the better universe in terms of depth or storytelling.

No, you think that is what they would be about. Majority of the people only pick the universe they know the most about or like the best. They should all just be banned since those type of people ruin it for the unbiased ones.


Agreed. I am extremely knowledgable in both the Warhammer and Halo universes (having been completely and utterly obsessed with both of them at different parts of my life) to use an example from a recent thread, and they simply aren't comparable in terms of power.

They shouldn't be banned (they are, admittedly, very enjoyable), but in all seriousness, one needs to read through those threads, work out who the knowledgable and unbiased people are, and then apply only those to the argument, ignoring everyone else.

  • 12.17.2011 7:30 PM PDT