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Subject: Zero bloom is E-Z mode.

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It is not.

  • 12.17.2011 1:11 PM PDT

the reason i dont like zb is because you can spam a 4sk from 100's of yards away (often while moving). that just seems a bit silly to me.
im not even arguing about skill gaps, competitive gameplay, etc. I'm merely speaking on the lunacy of such pin-point accuracy (under any circumstances, save for a mounted/stationary rifle.)

  • 12.17.2011 2:26 PM PDT
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  • 12.17.2011 2:30 PM PDT

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Agreed. All the changes are good and add variety. Do we really want another Halo 3? Just running around with one gun and no armor abilities? It's good that 343 wants to try something new. Do we really want the same thing for three more games?


Posted by: Onca Rapotee
Failed to prove me wrong.

Try again.
Posted by: CROWSCLAW
You have a 1.17 premium slayer k/d

/thread
Actually we did. :)

No, but honestly. Can you put some effort into trolling next time?

[Edited on 12.17.2011 2:34 PM PST]

  • 12.17.2011 2:33 PM PDT

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Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat

Posted by: Onca Rapotee
Never played zero bloom


Thread invalidated.

  • 12.17.2011 2:58 PM PDT

you're bad so you don't get an opinion

also adapt

  • 12.17.2011 3:01 PM PDT


Posted by: Red Puegeot
you're bad so you don't get an opinion

also adapt


am i bad? 1v1 jk u suk lulz

  • 12.17.2011 3:07 PM PDT


Posted by: S0ULJA PHARAOH
what is this? i don't even know...

  • 12.17.2011 3:10 PM PDT


Posted by: Red Puegeot

Posted by: S0ULJA PHARAOH
what is this? i don't even know...

thats right kid.

  • 12.17.2011 3:16 PM PDT

what are we even arguing? if zb slayer is easy? well yes it is, the pistol is all you need, if you know how to aim youll get the kill and thats what makes the skill gap, some kids just suck at aiming and thats where bloom comes with its random shot through the recticle

  • 12.17.2011 3:18 PM PDT

It's not. Prove me wrong.

  • 12.17.2011 3:18 PM PDT


Posted by: S0ULJA PHARAOH

Posted by: Red Puegeot

Posted by: S0ULJA PHARAOH
what is this? i don't even know...

thats right kid.
what?

  • 12.17.2011 3:23 PM PDT


Posted by: Prove Me Wrong
How is it any easier than no bloom with the exception of luck and random chance are now not a factor but instead precision and aiming? If bloom would have been implemented correctly you'd have a point, but no bloom is superior than Bungie's incompetent system.


the 2 exceptions you listed is what makes it easier, everyone gets lucky but not everyone is skillful, skill is not a factor in luck, so when you have a skilled peron and a noob dmr dueling the noob could get the kills simply because of this "luck or random chance"

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  • 12.17.2011 3:23 PM PDT


Posted by: Red Puegeot

Posted by: S0ULJA PHARAOH

Posted by: Red Puegeot

Posted by: S0ULJA PHARAOH
what is this? i don't even know...

thats right kid.
what?

SHUTUP

  • 12.17.2011 3:27 PM PDT


Posted by: S0ULJA PHARAOH

Posted by: Red Puegeot

Posted by: S0ULJA PHARAOH

Posted by: Red Puegeot

Posted by: S0ULJA PHARAOH
what is this? i don't even know...

thats right kid.
what?

SHUTUP
erm huh?

  • 12.17.2011 3:31 PM PDT


Posted by: MarkFanous

Posted by: Prove Me Wrong
How is it any easier than no bloom with the exception of luck and random chance are now not a factor but instead precision and aiming? If bloom would have been implemented correctly you'd have a point, but no bloom is superior than Bungie's incompetent system.


the 2 exceptions you listed is what makes it easier, everyone gets lucky but not everyone is skillful, skill is not a factor in luck, so when you have a skilled peron and a noob dmr dueling the noob could get the kills simply because of this "luck or random chance"
which is exactly why he's correct. aiming and being precise are more difficult than getting lucky with the game's bullet magnetism

  • 12.17.2011 7:32 PM PDT
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My Level. Get on it.


Posted by: RC Clone
Nope. SouthPole isn't a person. He's the avatar of the force of tryhards everywhere. He stalks the web looking for retards to set straight. He can not be stopped by mere bans or thread locks for he shall rise anew.

Default is for thumbless retards. MLG takes the most skill. Prove me wrong.

  • 12.17.2011 7:36 PM PDT

Alright basically what everyone is saying is. If it's E-Z mode why do you suck at it. Why prove anything to a terrible kid, your opinion is automatically invalid anyway.

  • 12.17.2011 9:05 PM PDT

I'm not even going to bother stat checking you, OP. I know you're barely positive in the playlist, and are just looking to sound retarded by claiming something that takes more skill is easier.

I'm also going to guess that you're a Colonel.

  • 12.18.2011 12:02 AM PDT


Posted by: Prove Me Wrong
How is it any easier than no bloom with the exception of luck and random chance are now not a factor but instead precision and aiming? If bloom would have been implemented correctly you'd have a point, but no bloom is superior than Bungie's incompetent system.
I hear that bloom was a good idea, but implemented wrong. Is there any other way Bungie could have implemented it, or is it just a bad idea entirely? Just asking

  • 12.18.2011 1:54 AM PDT

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  • 12.18.2011 2:01 AM PDT

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Posted by: Onca Rapotee
Never played zero bloom.

*facedesk*

  • 12.18.2011 3:24 AM PDT

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There's just as much weapon variety without bloom as there is with it. I'll still swap my AR out for just about anything to be my secondary. From a Spiker to a Needler a good secondary can be very helpful.
Even so the reintroduction of bleeedthrough makes the AR much more lethal up close making it much more useful than in default.

On top of that is the fact that when your reticle blooms the aim assist increased notiably thanks to the larger area of the reticle, between that and firing at a cadence shots become much easier to hit because as a player you're very rarely under any pressure to make a shot count.
Now without bloom aim assist remains constant, bullets go where you shoot them and you can fire at a faster rate which means you need to be more accurate in a shorter space of time. You still have to perform the same actions (land 5 shots), but now you need to do them with less aim assist and in a shorter time.

Those are facts, and if they don't make it sound more challenging than hoping to get lucky or firing slowly (thus allowing you a lot of time to readjust your aim between shots) then you're simply incapable of seeing how forgiving default Reach is and how much it handicaps good players by forcing them to shoot at a certain pace or to rely on luck.

  • 12.18.2011 6:14 AM PDT

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