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Subject: The community is what ruined Halo.

No, Bungie took a dump on the Halo franchise with Reach. The community just pointed it out continuously.

  • 12.18.2011 12:05 AM PDT


Posted by: SpArTaNo9

Posted by: Puma xSDSx
You mean the causals right? Right. Good.


Yes because the hardest of the hardcore gamers just play Halo ALLL that time.

  • 12.18.2011 12:52 AM PDT


Posted by: insaneAssass1n9

Posted by: SpArTaNo9

Posted by: Puma xSDSx
You mean the causals right? Right. Good.


Yes because the hardest of the hardcore gamers just play Halo ALLL that time.



Posted by: Puma xSDSx

Posted by: Puma xSDSx
You mean the causals right? Right. Good.


YOU -blam!- CAUSALS AND YOUR -blam!-

Casusals ruin Halo.

  • 12.18.2011 12:54 AM PDT

dont like my driving? stay off the sidewalk

why yes actually i can blame the developers for basically turning away from their small yet fiercely loyal fanbase to hand a once beloved game over to casuals for nothing but more money. fu#king casuals ruin every game they can get there little adolescent hands on....

  • 12.18.2011 1:57 AM PDT


Posted by: MR E0S
You are without a doubt the stupidest person to have ever posted on these forums. And considering CrunchUK has been here in the past, that's saying something.

  • 12.18.2011 3:55 AM PDT

Exactly. The whined during the beta
Then they whined when the game came out
Then they pleaded for 343 to help. They "improved" the game and now they wine again.

  • 12.18.2011 7:23 AM PDT

He who cannot command himself should obey. And many can command themselves, but much is still lacking before they can obey themselves.
--Thus Spoke Zarathustra

Bungie did not listen to the community when they made Halo. Reach is a perfect example of this.

  • 12.18.2011 7:42 AM PDT

Posted by: Fos Tis Krisis
Brutes aren't monkeys, Brutes are gorillas. Humans are monkeys, and Spartans are Orangutans.

Perhaps. But Bungie should have listened a little more into fanbase expectations, and have adjusted their public relations accordingly "selling in" Reach.

Also I don't get why they had like 25 matchmodes and gametypes straight off with a fresh game, since soo many things in core mechanics had changed. This lead to much quitting, and annnoyances alone imo. It still is to this day i might say!

Reach as a game at core with all its features is still a pretty damn good game I'd say.

Now 343/MS needs to invest in the next Halo. Giving away all map-packs for Reach could be a good gesture bring people onboard again.

I think this would help more than half-assing the core mechanics with a TU, as is going on now.

  • 12.18.2011 8:47 AM PDT

Posted by: Fos Tis Krisis
Brutes aren't monkeys, Brutes are gorillas. Humans are monkeys, and Spartans are Orangutans.


Posted by: Prove Me Wrong
A bloom system that rewards players for luck instead of precision aim is a poor system. Living dead changes were a poor decision, sword block, mute ban, stick negation.... And I'm just getting started.


And a non-bloom system that rewards host, including voids any other non-power weapon, is an even worse system! Rememeber Halo3 multiplayer anyone??

Btw, what really wrong with sword block? Just balances certain death out a bit. Who could oppose such a thing? AL/stick negation I can agree on though, but this alone doesn't break the game. Not by far.

  • 12.18.2011 8:55 AM PDT

Planking : Parkour for people who don't move very fast.


Posted by: UselessTrash
Perhaps. But Bungie should have listened a little more into fanbase expectations, and have adjusted their public relations accordingly "selling in" Reach.

Also I don't get why they had like 25 matchmodes and gametypes straight off with a fresh game, since soo many things in core mechanics had changed. This lead to much quitting, and annnoyances alone imo. It still is to this day i might say!

Reach as a game at core with all its features is still a pretty damn good game I'd say.

Now 343/MS needs to invest in the next Halo. Giving away all map-packs for Reach could be a good gesture bring people onboard again.

I think this would help more than half-assing the core mechanics with a TU, as is going on now.


343 has been trying to draw people back in. '343 Day' I got the Anniversary maps and a whole mess of avatar swag for free. Does this really make me want to play Reach more? It did for about a day.

They introduced custom challenges, so we can earn more cR. Does this really make anyone want to play more? Not that I can see, now if it was a 1-50 system, and you got Exp from them, people'd care.

They brought back the Super Jackpot weekends that Bungie did away with. Well, the player base always increases on the weekends, when all the youngins get out of school and get time to play on the Xbox, so safe to say, it's not the Super Jackpots pulling them back in.

They (supposedly) did away with the cR cap. Did that draw the masses back in? Again, maybe for a day when they announced it would happen, but those players stopped playing again as soon as they found out the cap was still there. (To play devils advocate, were a torrent of posts made on the Reach forum with Bungie in charge, we'd get an answer about what the hell was going on in maybe a day or 2, from 343 it took 8 days to get so much as a "Yeah, we know, we're trying to fix it.")

Did Bungie ruin Reach? Maybe. Is 343 ruining it further by taking a gigantic mess that was catered to casuals and offering the very incentives a casual player wants (increases to cR payouts, removal of cap, increase of positive re-enforcement.) while at the same time, trying to take said casual mess, and cater to the competitive gamer? Certainly. As many have said, you can't polish a turd.

  • 12.18.2011 9:33 AM PDT

Posted by: Fos Tis Krisis
Brutes aren't monkeys, Brutes are gorillas. Humans are monkeys, and Spartans are Orangutans.

Well, I think 343 did pretty well with the Adversary map-packs. BTB on any of those ones are almost like old times imo :)

Anyway, since Reach got off soo bad, they should have recognized this early and layed out the freebies (like map-packs). That would have kept the loyals in, and drawn up critical masse for all casuals. Now, Microsoft has a situation in which the fanbase is gone, and they just promised a 10-year following of Halo. Something doesn't compute here, right?

[Edited on 12.18.2011 10:07 AM PST]

  • 12.18.2011 10:07 AM PDT

Very true. personally I think halo reach is the best game I ever played. the series Halo itself has an amazing story and backstory. it has amazing gameplay and graphics. the point is, its the best game there is. the only reason some people don't like halo because of the shields that spartans and elites have. theres team swat where all shields and gone only two possible guns magnum and dmr. that should have saved it a lot if it weren't for how people nowadays are losing intrest in sifi. halo is the bestb Sifi game there is. the ga,e is for anyone. a team pl;ayer a lone wolf as they say. or just play for the driving. either way halo has everything that people want just some people don;t like how it sifi or that it has sields. the point is its a great game with two "flaws" and a million other reasons to play it. i strongly reconmend it to anyone who people who like sifi and are team players. So get your copy and start playin

[Edited on 12.18.2011 10:42 AM PST]

  • 12.18.2011 10:30 AM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
Prolonged exposure to this forum is bad for your health.


Posted by: aBIueBooksheIf
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Posted by: dragontamer44
personally i think halo reach is the best game i ever played.


You should raise your standards.
There are way, WAY better games out there than Reach.


Posted by: dragontamer44
people don't like halo because of the shields that spartans and elites have. theres team swat where all shields and gone only two possible guns magnum and dmr.


What?
You have no clue why people dislike Reach.



Posted by: dragontamer44
halo is the bestb sifi game there is. the ga,e is for anyone. a team pl;ayer a lone wolf as they say. or just play for the driving. either way halo has everything that people want just some people don;t like how it sifi or that it has sields. the point is its a great game with two "flaws" and a million other reasons to play it. i strongly reconmend it to anyone who people who like sifi and are team players. So get your copy and start playin


Go drink the lemonade under the sink.

  • 12.18.2011 10:36 AM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
Prolonged exposure to this forum is bad for your health.


Posted by: aBIueBooksheIf
because I like pen­is.

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Why the -blam!- did it double post.

[Edited on 12.18.2011 10:36 AM PST]

  • 12.18.2011 10:36 AM PDT

Posted by: Fos Tis Krisis
Brutes aren't monkeys, Brutes are gorillas. Humans are monkeys, and Spartans are Orangutans.

I only got the last part dragontamer44 lol, but you're right.

Me signing off, for God knows how long.

I'll be online with Reach. See you there guys! :)

  • 12.18.2011 10:36 AM PDT

really bungie did't mke mistakes with it. its just all your opinions of it. its a great game and it has a lot more then halo 3 had besides the viecles o f course. bungie had a little flaw with what vieclies they put in. the falson and banshee anmd all the rest ae amazing viecles but they took out all the good viecles that were in halo 3 like the hornet or the other revanent like one and all the rest bungie shouls hve also added animals to add in forge to. like they shoukls have in the "Natural" list they shouls put animals. for example the moa and the guta things that way players can enjoy a little ditital hunting trip or make a halo short about hunting. the one on youtube already is good but needs to editable or whatever you would say in place for this word. bungie should put all the halo 3 viecles and all animals known and unknown the the public. so add it and just watch your numbwers rise like a falcon off of an island. please take this into consideration if possible.

  • 12.18.2011 10:38 AM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
Prolonged exposure to this forum is bad for your health.


Posted by: aBIueBooksheIf
because I like pen­is.

source


Posted by: dragontamer44
really bungie did't mke mistakes with it. its just all your opinions of it.



Opinion.
Reach is a great game = your opinion

Mine is you're retarded.



Learn to write proper English FFS.

  • 12.18.2011 10:42 AM PDT

Two makes there more than speakers.

It's a good standalone game.
But for my expectations for a Halo game it failed.

  • 12.18.2011 10:52 AM PDT

Planking : Parkour for people who don't move very fast.


Posted by: UselessTrash
Anyway, since Reach got off soo bad, they should have recognized this early and layed out the freebies (like map-packs). That would have kept the loyals in, and drawn up critical masse for all casuals. Now, Microsoft has a situation in which the fanbase is gone, and they just promised a 10-year following of Halo. Something doesn't compute here, right?


Eh, this is 343i we're talking about, and they are owned by Microsoft. Of course they announced 3 more Halo games. I've said it before, Microsoft buying Halo has less to do with Bungie, and more to do with making sure it's a marketable, and profitable venture for years to come.

Even if they were to give away DLC for free, they'd easily make it up in sales from clothing, books, action figures, board games, and kids toys (seriously, marketing an M rated game with .... Megabloks? Really?). When you think about it, 343 was really created to make sure Halo KEEPS making money.

With that in mind, with Halo 4, sure, they make take out all the extra gimmicks with Reach. I hope they do. But from a buisness-lets-make-some-cash standpoint, they have a lot more to lose by making a game that caters specifically to the hardcore, because A) Casuals won't buy it, and B) The competitive FPS market is not nearly big enough to sells games just to them anymore.

  • 12.18.2011 10:57 AM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
Prolonged exposure to this forum is bad for your health.


Posted by: aBIueBooksheIf
because I like pen­is.

source


Posted by: WulfwoodsSins
With that in mind, with Halo 4, sure, they make take out all the extra gimmicks with Reach. I hope they do. But from a buisness-lets-make-some-cash standpoint, they have a lot more to lose by making a game that caters specifically to the hardcore, because A) Casuals won't buy it, and B) The competitive FPS market is not nearly big enough to sells games just to them anymore.


The smart move is to have both sides in the game.
Keep everybody happy.

  • 12.18.2011 11:09 AM PDT

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