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Posted by: Boberson1234
Random
Uncompetitive
Repetitive
Frustrating


RURF, the sound i make when I try to play Reach.

  • 12.22.2011 1:33 AM PDT

dont like my driving? stay off the sidewalk

biggest game-breakers for me:

1. crappy teammates

2. armor lock

3. overpowered frags

  • 12.22.2011 3:42 AM PDT

"If you tried the TU playlists you realize, removing bloom just makes the DMR and pistol too deadly, and every other non-powerweapon pointless. It also makes the game more host-dependable. Just like Halo3 multiplayer.

I think Bungie actually gave more thought into these things, than we give them credit for"

Uhh what? Of course ZB settings make the DMR too strong relative to everything else. BUNGIE BALANCED EVERYTHING ELSE AROUND BLOOM. That doesn't mean bloom is a good thing (its one of the worst things to happen to any game, period) It just means Bungie added bloom, then toned everything else accordingly.

So it is true that if you fix bloom now you tilt the weapon balance, but that is not because Bungie is some kind of balance genius and we all just couldn't see why they needed to have bloom. They balanced the precision weapons around it.

Adding bloom to this game was a terrible terrible mistake. So was the general slowing down of the movement. And the stupid frag grenades. And invisibility and armor lock. And really every "new idea" they had. I'm not exaggerating, every new gameplay feature in Reach made the title worse.

  • 12.22.2011 1:02 PM PDT

Posted by: AngryBrute1
Oh yeah, since somebody does not believe what YOU believe; that makes us vapid...
I cannot grasp that what you call "Something happened to nothing, and that nothing became something, and it was smaller than than a period."

My flaws: AR noobs, sniper cowards (do nothing but snipe on a really high ledge on hemorrhage), mlg arsehats who strafe like retarts to avoid death when they know it's inevitable, laggers, hackers, full parties, people who bash casual players for whatever reason, people who deliberately betray or who betray for power weapons, armor lock noobs, and Arena ranking; the pros should battle pros, the casuals should play casuals, and the noobs should battle noobs.

I still love it, because I rarely find these things, and we were given a report button and a file complaint button. :D

  • 12.22.2011 1:24 PM PDT


Posted by: GLO Is Back
Posted by: MarkFanous
Reach doesnt suck, i dont know why everyone thinks it does. Why do people keep trying to act like its a bad halo game. Honestly tell me whats so bad about it, and dont list general flaws, list the flaws that you have personally dealt with in matchmaking.

Hey OP ... why dont you be less lazy and list the thing that make it great?

Want a suck list - go browse the forum posts for a single day.
Give us your greatness list and we will be happy to educate you.


list is up, go flame me, im waiting ;)

  • 12.22.2011 1:49 PM PDT

My only problem with Reach is the people that play it. I either get teammates that A) Have no idea how to play, B) don't know what that thing in their hands is called or how to fire it or C) decide to either quit or betray enough people until they get booted. Reach itself is fine.

  • 12.22.2011 2:20 PM PDT
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Played all the Halos except ODST and Halo Wars and Reach has probably been my favorite. This is just because I've always had this hate against the Flood and the whole 1-man supersoldier hero theme was a bit cliche. Of course I like the Chief, but I liked how in Reach you were part of a team (albeit a rather useless one for anything but a distraction as far as gameplay goes). Plus the amount of customization there is, I love seeing my Spartan in the cutscenes.

Halo 3 got ruined for me when 9 or 10 out of the 16 playlists required that you have all the DLC. I didn't feel like paying an additional 50% of what I paid for for the game to play more than half the MM. That's something I've never seen in a game before, "Hey, let's make just over half the MM available to people who drop another $30 into a game they already payed $60 to play." I welcome DLC maps, but making them a requirement is taking it a bit too far.

[Edited on 12.22.2011 2:50 PM PST]

  • 12.22.2011 2:45 PM PDT

God damn it guys it isn't a bad game. I know it's been said too many times to count but ADAPT OR MOVE ON. Hate reach for the bloom? ADAPT OR MOVE ON. Hate reach because of armor lock? ADAPT OR MOVE ON. Just don't go whining here on the forums about this -blam!-. Reach has some really good parts to it. For example the fact that it combines almost all of the modes that previous titles had such as firefight. Reach has a much more improved version of firefight so it doesn't suck in that regard. The campaign is debatable, but the multiplayer is one of the best. The DMR is a powerful weapon and is balanced with bloom so it doesn't become just another version of the spam-shot rifle that so many of you praise (I'm talking about the BR BTW).

For example, energy swords are improved in this title. In halo 2 you would go flying across the map with each swing at an enemy (which is fun for the laughs, but not for regular gameplay). Now we have sword block to make the sword less cheap (many of you complain about this since now you aren't an invincible boss in cqc). Armor abilities are a cool innovation and they all have their strengths and weaknesses.

Come at me guys, I can create a counter argument for any of your petty complaints against this game.

[Edited on 12.22.2011 2:51 PM PST]

  • 12.22.2011 2:51 PM PDT

Posted by: Dustin 6047
Troll confirmed. I never even insulted you

Posted by: Dustin 6047
OP - You're a dumbass with the reading comprehension skills of a second grader.


Can someone tell me what's wrong with these two, this made me LOL hard.

Those are peoples' opinions. In my opinion, Halo: Reach is way below subpar compared to all the other Halos since the TU.

Why?

Broken mechanics of the game now. I only put in Halo: Reach to mess around with friends in it, but so far, everyone has told me that they sold theirs for games like BF3 and other stuff.

Halo: Reach is more of the black sheep of the family: It's well known, but barely anyone likes it.

  • 12.22.2011 3:08 PM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
Prolonged exposure to this forum is bad for your health.


Posted by: aBIueBooksheIf
because I like pen­is.

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Posted by: Blacknight159
Come at me guys, I can create a counter argument for any of your petty complaints against this game.


-Jetpack is terrible for gameplay.
It destroys map control and the flow of the map itself.

-Maps are terrible.

  • 12.22.2011 3:57 PM PDT
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Read the OP.

Can't tell if serious or...

  • 12.22.2011 4:03 PM PDT

Compared to other Halo games it's not that good but as a game itself it's pretty awesome.

  • 12.22.2011 4:06 PM PDT

私はルルーシュViにブリタニア時、私のコマンドに従う!

ピカレスク

It's not a bad game. It's a bad Halo game.

  • 12.22.2011 4:36 PM PDT

He who cannot command himself should obey. And many can command themselves, but much is still lacking before they can obey themselves.
--Thus Spoke Zarathustra

Where have you been since Reach Falls 2010?? Is this your first time on the Reach forums?

  • 12.22.2011 4:43 PM PDT

He who cannot command himself should obey. And many can command themselves, but much is still lacking before they can obey themselves.
--Thus Spoke Zarathustra


Posted by: NinjaLord77
Compared to other Halo games it's not that good but as a game itself it's pretty awesome.

Completely agree.

  • 12.22.2011 4:44 PM PDT


Posted by: GLO Is Back
Posted by: MarkFanous
Posted by: GLO Is Back
Hey OP ... why dont you be less lazy and list the thing that make it great?

Want a suck list - go browse the forum posts for a single day.
Give us your greatness list and we will be happy to educate you.


list is up, go flame me, im waiting ;)


List?!? What list?
All see in your reply is a blank line.
(no List, no link, just the blank line)

Ahhh, I get it - funny stuff.
The 'list of things that makes reach great' is empty.


really dont understand your post, i told why i like reach and i told you its positives, im waiting for your rebuttle

  • 12.22.2011 4:47 PM PDT


Posted by: Cowleyad
Where have you been since Reach Falls 2010?? Is this your first time on the Reach forums?


no its not, ive been on here for awhile, i just dont understand everyone's hate towards reach so that why i made the thread

  • 12.22.2011 4:47 PM PDT

Posted by: Kira Onime

Posted by: Blacknight159
Come at me guys, I can create a counter argument for any of your petty complaints against this game.

-Jetpack is terrible for gameplay.
It destroys map control and the flow of the map itself.

-Maps are terrible.



You aren't going to persuade anyone unless you give support and examples. Also, your second statement is opinion, the maps might be horrible for you, but others will find the maps to be good.

  • 12.22.2011 4:49 PM PDT


Posted by: Blacknight159
Posted by: Kira Onime

Posted by: Blacknight159
Come at me guys, I can create a counter argument for any of your petty complaints against this game.

-Jetpack is terrible for gameplay.
It destroys map control and the flow of the map itself.

-Maps are terrible.



You aren't going to persuade anyone unless you give support and examples. Also, your second statement is opinion, the maps might be horrible for you, but others will find the maps to be good.


when i see a jetpacking person the first thing i think is an easy kill, you fly up where everyone can see you and shoot you

  • 12.22.2011 5:01 PM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
Prolonged exposure to this forum is bad for your health.


Posted by: aBIueBooksheIf
because I like pen­is.

source


Posted by: MarkFanous
when i see a jetpacking person the first thing i think is an easy kill, you fly up where everyone can see you and shoot you


Go play people that aren't complete retards.




Posted by: Blacknight159
Also, your second statement is opinion, the maps might be horrible for you, but others will find the maps to be good.


Typical retard counter-argument.
IT'S YOUR OPINION DERP.

  • 12.22.2011 5:05 PM PDT


Posted by: Kira Onime

Posted by: MarkFanous
when i see a jetpacking person the first thing i think is an easy kill, you fly up where everyone can see you and shoot you


Go play people that aren't complete retards.




Posted by: Blacknight159
Also, your second statement is opinion, the maps might be horrible for you, but others will find the maps to be good.


Typical retard counter-argument.
IT'S YOUR OPINION DERP.


could you provide a video of someone actually using jetpack correctly, to this day i havent played against anyone in which the jetpack was used as an advantage.

and hey if you think the maps are terrible that is an opinion, i like the maps, some are better then others but they dont all suck, so yeah it is an opinionated argument unless you can provide pros/cons on each map in which it convinces those who thinks its good otherwise

  • 12.22.2011 5:09 PM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
Prolonged exposure to this forum is bad for your health.


Posted by: aBIueBooksheIf
because I like pen­is.

source

Posted by: MarkFanous
could you provide a video of someone actually using jetpack correctly, to this day i havent played against anyone in which the jetpack was used as an advantage.


Go watch high onyx arena gameplay where abusing maps with the jetpack is necessary.


Posted by: MarkFanous
and hey if you think the maps are terrible that is an opinion, i like the maps, some are better then others but they dont all suck, so yeah it is an opinionated argument unless you can provide pros/cons on each map in which it convinces those who thinks its good otherwise


If I compare them to maps we had in previous games, yes, they suck. Literally anybody that played HCE-2-3 will tell you they blow.
Just about every default lolreach maps are terrible.
Those that don't suck were made in forge world and are full of dull grey.

  • 12.22.2011 5:13 PM PDT

@kira onime (using phone)

Tell me how this is retarded? You and I both know that that was an opinion and opinions carry ABSOLUTELY NO WEIGHT IN AN ARGUMENT; and let me ask you something, who's the retard in an argument when a person can't even formulate a respectable or intelligent counter-response?
OH DER ANT ANEE WEY DAT I CAN BEET DIS GUI IN A DEBAET SO I GUNNA TRI AN MAEK FUNN OF IM! HURRDURRHURR!!!

I still am awaiting for any signs of intelligence in your argument derpy sir.

  • 12.22.2011 5:17 PM PDT