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Subject: What If Halo 3 Turns Out To Be Like Halo 2?
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Halo 2 did take still even that theres auto aim(which i have no problem with)
get soem one that hasn't played the game before, they'll get a 0% hit count
take someone that only gets to play the game 2-3 hours a fortnight
they'll beable to do things but won't own
take someone that plays it all the time. head shots,rifles, calls everyone (even those better) noobs and when ever looses or dies says there no skill

theres skill in the game, I used my skill that i got from halo 2 and played a game without any auto aim and i did exacly the same.

  • 05.10.2006 1:47 AM PDT
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Now that you've taken the time to look at my sig, I actually regret not providing you with something more worthwhile.

I pray to god every night that Halo 3 is remarkably similar to Halo 2. Halo 2 is a good game. Every bit as good as Halo: CE and if Halo 3 being similar to Halo 2 runs some of you "1337" gamers off, then I will devote my body to pleasing the fellows at Bungie. Most of you dip-blam!-s that poclaim Halo: CE's superiority are just following the lead of the people that legitimately feel Halo: CE is the better game. The fact is most of you whiny little -blam!-s got upset when you stepped onto Xbox Live and proceeded to get owned. The ownage couldn't have been your lack of skill, no, Bungie clearly noobified the game, because you are without question the most 1337 gamer ever, right? If Halo 2 was the terrible noobified mess you claim it is, then it wouldn't be the #1 game on Xbox Live a year and a half after its realease. The majority of you just want to seem and feel different from everyone else, but you just end up sounding like a little whiny -blam!-. Do the world a favor and just keep you -blam!- mouth shut, then when the game is released go be first in line to get your copy so you can go home, get owned, and promptly log on to the forums to proclaim how noobified Halo 3 is.

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if it is ill be happy like a clamp!

  • 05.10.2006 2:00 AM PDT

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Halo 1 was Halo 1. Halo 2 was Halo 2. Halo 3 will be Halo 3.

For those not keeping score, that means each game in the series is what it is. Halo 3 will not be Halo 1 or Halo 2, just as Halo 2 was not Halo 1. It will stand by itself. There will be a bunch of you who will still say Halo 1 was the only good one, there will be others who stick with Halo 2, and so on. But regardless of your eventual opinion of the product, one thing will be true - Halo 3 will be Halo 3, and not simply be more of either Halo 1 or Halo 2.

Anybody who says otherwise is not looking at things clearly, and is probably tainted by various loud mouthed forum posters who don't understand that their opinion is not universal (this goes for all sides of this stupid argument). So let it die, please. This is a foolish topic, with its idiocy only approached by the skill/no-skill conversation.

  • 05.10.2006 2:00 AM PDT

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hey achronos let people have their own opinions, he can think unclearly if he wants

  • 05.10.2006 2:02 AM PDT

Posted by: Achronos
But regardless of your eventual opinion of the product, one thing will be true - Halo 3 will be Halo 3, and not simply be more of either Halo 1 or Halo 2.


Do you promise? :-P Seriously though, it would be a shame to get Halo 2.1 with next-gen production values but exactly the same gameplay underneath.. after all Halo 2 was not Halo 1.1 was it?

Posted by: MeechVII
I pray to god every night that Halo 3 is remarkably similar to Halo 2.


If that happens, and it's your fault, i WILL find you. :-)

[Edited on 5/10/2006]

  • 05.10.2006 2:02 AM PDT
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Good call (Achronos), i was completely fed up with this crap in the forums after Halo 2 came out, and i sure as hell dont want a repeat when we should be discussing All the cool thing we want to happen in Halo 3.

[Edited on 5/10/2006]

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There should be blood tests on the controller than takes DNA samples to test your age. lol...

I don't think they newbed halo 2 up. Ok, Maybe it was kinda easy. The hardest part I can think of is quick fire from covenant and the sniper rifles sniping you (god I hate that) but come on, I think bungie learned from Halo 2. My concern is will it be long enough? I want it to be long and enjoyful... =|

  • 05.10.2006 2:06 AM PDT
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Same here, i'm hoping for a minimum of 10 hours to complete it on easy. and i have no doubt that the game will be awsome.

  • 05.10.2006 2:08 AM PDT
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Posted by: MeechVII
I pray to god every night that Halo 3 is remarkably similar to Halo 2. Halo 2 is a good game. Every bit as good as Halo: CE and if Halo 3 being similar to Halo 2 runs some of you "1337" gamers off, then I will devote my body to pleasing the fellows at Bungie. Most of you dip-blam!-s that poclaim Halo: CE's superiority are just following the lead of the people that legitimately feel Halo: CE is the better game. The fact is most of you whiny little -blam!-s got upset when you stepped onto Xbox Live and proceeded to get owned. The ownage couldn't have been your lack of skill, no, Bungie clearly noobified the game, because you are without question the most 1337 gamer ever, right? If Halo 2 was the terrible noobified mess you claim it is, then it wouldn't be the #1 game on Xbox Live a year and a half after its realease. The majority of you just want to seem and feel different from everyone else, but you just end up sounding like a little whiny -blam!-. Do the world a favor and just keep you -blam!- mouth shut, then when the game is released go be first in line to get your copy so you can go home, get owned, and promptly log on to the forums to proclaim how noobified Halo 3 is.


Sometimes people hit it right in the bullzeye! WILL YOU MARRY ME? Thanks

  • 05.10.2006 2:09 AM PDT
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Personally i like halo 1 more because it was the first in the series. Its the game that sucked me in and introduced the universe to me. I really dont think you can be better than an original, much like remakes of songs. So far both of the halo games have been amazing, but halo 1 just sticks out to me more because it was the first.

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Well, hopefully the new system can open up new chances for the game. (We've seen that it has freaking awesome graphics.) but I wish for it to be sorta challenging, but not too hard, with fun missions...OH AND BRING SIDEWINDER BACK! Please for the love of God bring that back bungie.

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Posted by: Achronos
Halo 1 was Halo 1. Halo 2 was Halo 2. Halo 3 will be Halo 3.

For those not keeping score, that means each game in the series is what it is. Halo 3 will not be Halo 1 or Halo 2, just as Halo 2 was not Halo 1. It will stand by itself. There will be a bunch of you who will still say Halo 1 was the only good one, there will be others who stick with Halo 2, and so on. But regardless of your eventual opinion of the product, one thing will be true - Halo 3 will be Halo 3, and not simply be more of either Halo 1 or Halo 2.

Anybody who says otherwise is not looking at things clearly, and is probably tainted by various loud mouthed forum posters who don't understand that their opinion is not universal (this goes for all sides of this stupid argument). So let it die, please. This is a foolish topic, with its idiocy only approached by the skill/no-skill conversation.


Thank you so much!

  • 05.10.2006 2:10 AM PDT
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I understand him saying Halo will be Halo, and Halo 2 will be Halo 2. I just hope Halo 3 will have a better feel. I remember watching one of the Bungie employess talk about how if you can get in that 10 seconds of fun and keep repeating it you got a good game (something like that).


I loved playing Halo on my free time because it was fun everytime. Halo 2 got boring and repetitive. The people on this forum can keep his or her opinion, but I know Halo 3 will be something fresh and new.

I just can't wait to see what it's like. I think the entertainment industry has a big problem with making movies or games worse the second and third time around.

I would not buy another Bungie game though if Halo 3 is a disappointment.

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well, i dunno what all you guys biching about "halo 2 needs no skill" and all this shizzle. cus, i most definatly know that i COMPLETELY SUCKED at halo 1 AND halo 2.

  • 05.10.2006 2:25 AM PDT
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Campaign was pretty easy...Legendary required a little more skill...but not a whole lot...

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Halo 3 is not gonna be a dissapointment, from all the stuff i see, from the play, and the scale of Halo, and halo 2 the Live aspect aswell, bungie to me seem to be one of the best game designers, in as much as they enjoy what they do! The want it to be brilliant not just for sales, but they love gaming. I wasn't a big console person before Halo, but i heard about it I saw it, and i bought an xbox, so i could play it. Halo was groundbreaking, a plot worthy of a top book, or movie, action and scale unplayed before, plus multipleyer similar to unreal etc, but it was much better. Halo 2 was a great game, i had never played better graphics before, so what a few glitches in the cinematics, i don't care if its because they drained the best they could get out of an xbox. Single player was great, when i hear people saying "i want the campaign to last 10 hours on easy", WHAT!! Why do you think you were dissapointed, because the first time you played it, you played it like a noob, with the skills of a player. It was fun, there were twists, and the new things duel weilding, vehicle jacking excellent. Multiplayer was great, and its not easy, you need skill, i know. Im pretty good, but sometimes i go on and i get completely owned, not by bad players with level10, but people level 30 up, they didnt get luck, they got skill, and i admire their abilities, though pehaps can't understand the effort and time they put in.

to sum up trust bungie, they work hard and they want the best out of halo

  • 05.10.2006 2:33 AM PDT
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Posted by: Achronos
Halo 1 was Halo 1. Halo 2 was Halo 2. Halo 3 will be Halo 3.

For those not keeping score, that means each game in the series is what it is. Halo 3 will not be Halo 1 or Halo 2, just as Halo 2 was not Halo 1. It will stand by itself. There will be a bunch of you who will still say Halo 1 was the only good one, there will be others who stick with Halo 2, and so on. But regardless of your eventual opinion of the product, one thing will be true - Halo 3 will be Halo 3, and not simply be more of either Halo 1 or Halo 2.

Anybody who says otherwise is not looking at things clearly, and is probably tainted by various loud mouthed forum posters who don't understand that their opinion is not universal (this goes for all sides of this stupid argument). So let it die, please. This is a foolish topic, with its idiocy only approached by the skill/no-skill conversation.


Whoo. Hang on a little. " This is a foolish topic, with its idiocy only approached by the skill/no-skill conversation ". Did you really just post that? Looks like you did. How disappointed that you of all people can't understand what has transpired in the past 18 months. Instead you put it down to a "skill/no-skill" argument. I'm completely overwhelmed with feelings of utter disbelief that much of what has been posted and shouted out here and at other sites has been wasted.

  • 05.10.2006 2:44 AM PDT
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Posted by: Achronos
Halo 3 will be Halo 3.


The big plus here is that it won't be Halo 2.

and by that i mean...

It doesn't necessarily have to be like Halo 1 to be good, but it certainly MUST NOT BE LIKE halo 2 to be acceptable.

[Edited on 5/10/2006]

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Archronos - that is a very bad way of looking at it, Halo:CE made the Xbox what it is, its because of its GAMEPLAY now Halo 2's single player GAMEPLAY was not that good, ok online its the best since there is no arguing the millions that play it online.

But its the gameplay that has to appeal to gamers in order for them to enjoy the game, since the ingredients were extremely well put together in Halo:CE it soo good I purchase it again for my 360.

Developers from my understanding usually look back at titles to see what they can do to further 'improve' but in some cases improvements can lead to games not being soo good as was Halo 2.

Developers should be able to see from the mass Halo: CE fans on what they liked about it and how well it did, instead of making a remark saying Halo 1 is Halo 1 and Halo 2 is Halo 2 thats wrong.

Developers should go back look at the game that was soo great and work on those ingredients to make it even better - and looking at the Halo 3 trailer it seems they are returning to Halo 1's ingredients since I can see the old Rifle MC once had in Halo 1...
Posted by: Achronos
Halo 1 was Halo 1. Halo 2 was Halo 2. Halo 3 will be Halo 3.

For those not keeping score, that means each game in the series is what it is. Halo 3 will not be Halo 1 or Halo 2, just as Halo 2 was not Halo 1. It will stand by itself. There will be a bunch of you who will still say Halo 1 was the only good one, there will be others who stick with Halo 2, and so on. But regardless of your eventual opinion of the product, one thing will be true - Halo 3 will be Halo 3, and not simply be more of either Halo 1 or Halo 2.

Anybody who says otherwise is not looking at things clearly, and is probably tainted by various loud mouthed forum posters who don't understand that their opinion is not universal (this goes for all sides of this stupid argument). So let it die, please. This is a foolish topic, with its idiocy only approached by the skill/no-skill conversation.

  • 05.10.2006 3:16 AM PDT
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lol, you guys must have really pissed them off to get achronos in here lol.

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i dont think it would, then itd make pplz quit playin halo series

  • 05.10.2006 3:25 AM PDT

I hope what Achronos says is right, and Halo 3 turns out as much like Halo 2 as Halo was like Halo 1. For them to take a different direction in Halo 2 upset a lot of people, but, if they do it again, and prove that they really are not interested in rehashing the old style of Halo 1 OR 2, then good luck to them I say.

I can't believe some of the people here are already asking for Halo 2.1

  • 05.10.2006 3:33 AM PDT
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Chemical Weapon!

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Less self-righteous posturing and ad hominem attacks will keep this thread open and its participants' posting privileges retained.

GOD DAMN!

halo 3 has only officially existed for a day and people are ALREADY complaining!

come on guys!

  • 05.10.2006 3:36 AM PDT
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Chemical Weapon!

posted by:Achronos
Less self-righteous posturing and ad hominem attacks will keep this thread open and its participants' posting privileges retained.

Posted by: Achronos
Halo 1 was Halo 1. Halo 2 was Halo 2. Halo 3 will be Halo 3.

For those not keeping score, that means each game in the series is what it is. Halo 3 will not be Halo 1 or Halo 2, just as Halo 2 was not Halo 1. It will stand by itself. There will be a bunch of you who will still say Halo 1 was the only good one, there will be others who stick with Halo 2, and so on. But regardless of your eventual opinion of the product, one thing will be true - Halo 3 will be Halo 3, and not simply be more of either Halo 1 or Halo 2.

Anybody who says otherwise is not looking at things clearly, and is probably tainted by various loud mouthed forum posters who don't understand that their opinion is not universal (this goes for all sides of this stupid argument). So let it die, please. This is a foolish topic, with its idiocy only approached by the skill/no-skill conversation.


all i have to say to this is:

yes


oh, and one more thing: both halo 1 and halo 2 had the same amount of "skill" (skill is only in the player, not the game) so -blam!- the "skill" argument

  • 05.10.2006 3:42 AM PDT