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Subject: Weapon Variety-- is it really necessary?

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Posted by: aBlueBookshelf
Trust me, I know what I'm talking about.


lol'd

  • 12.18.2011 3:35 PM PDT

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'Variety' considerations are not unimportant when designing a good quality game. But the mistake that has been made over the years by inexperienced players, and even game developers, is that a large number of weapons in the sandbox is necessary for a gameplay experience to be varied. This is simply not true, and is discussed in this article on MLG.com

In Halo 2, the BR was by far the most used weapon. Similarly, in Gears 1 the Shotgun was the go-to weapon in almost all circumstances. These two games are generally regarded as having brilliant multiplayer components. The reason is because at their heart lies an uncluttered and simple set of rules, which when explored in more detail give rise to a great depth of gameplay. The ability to constantly improve, and a strong correlation between the effort and skill that one puts into the game and the success one achieves in it, are vital to keeping players around long-term. If I am not reaping the rewards of my skills and efforts - as is the case when somebody Armour Locks on me after having out-DMR'd them - I am not enjoying myself. Ensuring that skill is proportional to success is the most important factor in ensuring the game plays well. If this can only be achieved by reducing variety (which I maintain is not the case for MLG's settings), so be it.

[Edited on 12.18.2011 3:38 PM PST]

  • 12.18.2011 3:37 PM PDT


Posted by: aBlueBookshelf
This is really fun.

i no rite

  • 12.18.2011 3:41 PM PDT

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Posted by: InvasionImminent
i no rite


lol!

  • 12.18.2011 3:42 PM PDT
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Posted by:MR E0S
Why is hypocrite spelled with an E at the end?
The I in crite is not pronounce as eye.

So, on the one hand I spell it out exactly as it should be.
You follow the standard set before you by fools who can't even get a handle on the rules of their own language.

wat

  • 12.18.2011 3:44 PM PDT

Meh

Weapon variety isn't really that much of an issue. I say litter the map with random colorful weapons to appease the people who clamor for it. It's not like throwing more weapons into the mix will suddenly make people better or the game more fun anyways.

  • 12.18.2011 3:44 PM PDT

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Posted by: Maximus Decimus
Agreed. All the changes are good and add variety. Do we really want another Halo 3? Just running around with one gun and no armor abilities? It's good that 343 wants to try something new. Do we really want the same thing for three more games?


Posted by: aBlueBookshelf
Trust me, I know what I'm talking about.
But they go "whooosh"!

  • 12.18.2011 3:44 PM PDT
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Posted by:MR E0S
Why is hypocrite spelled with an E at the end?
The I in crite is not pronounce as eye.

So, on the one hand I spell it out exactly as it should be.
You follow the standard set before you by fools who can't even get a handle on the rules of their own language.

Every Bnet random ever.

  • 12.18.2011 3:45 PM PDT

Every BTB random ever.

  • 12.18.2011 3:47 PM PDT

This thread is getting a little off-topic...

  • 12.18.2011 3:47 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sanuel Jackson
Weapon variety isn't really that much of an issue. I say litter the map with random colorful weapons to appease the people who clamor for it. It's not like throwing more weapons into the mix will suddenly make people better or the game more fun anyways.


The people who would argue against this are apparently offline :/

  • 12.18.2011 3:47 PM PDT

wat

  • 12.18.2011 3:48 PM PDT

For anyone that has ever played BTB without a full team

  • 12.18.2011 3:48 PM PDT

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Posted by: LordMonkey
This thread is getting a little off-topic...


it's frakking hilarious though

  • 12.18.2011 3:48 PM PDT
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Posted by:MR E0S
Why is hypocrite spelled with an E at the end?
The I in crite is not pronounce as eye.

So, on the one hand I spell it out exactly as it should be.
You follow the standard set before you by fools who can't even get a handle on the rules of their own language.

The best.

  • 12.18.2011 3:48 PM PDT

oh aye

  • 12.18.2011 3:49 PM PDT
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Variety is good.

  • 12.18.2011 3:49 PM PDT

Flash Kicks beat Armor Lock.

TheLab.

My attempt.

  • 12.18.2011 3:50 PM PDT

My guess is that people who want more weapons in the game are the ones who can't use any of the other weapons properly. Once you get down to it, most of the weapons are the same. Giving everyone the same gun will make skill/teamwork the deciding factor in winning games. That way, you don't win just because your opponent has a weaker gun.

  • 12.18.2011 3:50 PM PDT
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Posted by:MR E0S
Why is hypocrite spelled with an E at the end?
The I in crite is not pronounce as eye.

So, on the one hand I spell it out exactly as it should be.
You follow the standard set before you by fools who can't even get a handle on the rules of their own language.

wat

  • 12.18.2011 3:50 PM PDT