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Subject: Bring the thunder, defending Reach and all its attributes.
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Always up for REACH customs!

Of course Reach isn't selling as well as those other games... they're new, and Reach is over a year old.

  • 12.19.2011 6:58 PM PDT

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Posted by: ShadowLordDaniel
Posted by: Plunderfuq

Ok I usally dont respond this way, as I dont laugh out loud from the post, but for this one, and just this one, LOL.
"LOL" all you want, but I aren't the one making a fool out of one's self. I am also not the one spilling out garbage such as yourself.

I'm not the one to fling insults to other people, but I can see why people think you're retarded and deny other people's opinions. Just keep in mind that you brought this upon yourself.
I am fully prepared to suffer the consequences of my actions, which is basicly insults for liking a game we all play and frequent forums for, and I am the fool, strange.

  • 12.19.2011 6:59 PM PDT


Posted by: Plunderfuq

Posted by: sSektor
Tengunova basically made the OP ragequit. fkn lol
Not yet, had to go to the store, I know, retarded.


Understandable. I mean, it's not like you were making a rational argument to begin with

  • 12.19.2011 7:00 PM PDT

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Posted by: the pib
Of course Reach isn't selling as well as those other games... they're new, and Reach is over a year old.
You beat me to the punch! But Im going to elaborate in another post.

  • 12.19.2011 7:01 PM PDT

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Posted by: Viper Skills

Posted by: Plunderfuq
I could, but it would be a waste of space as just like those, it would be my opinion and it is apparent that most on forums are here to complain and feel their are the authority on balance and game design, without making games.


You don't have to be a game designer to know a balanced game when you see it. If they made a newer version of Chess where one side starts with Queens instead of Pawns and the other side is the same, would that be balanced?

By your logic, I wouldn't know because I didn't create the game.
This is a newer game of chess, one where you have to decide if you want to be a rook or a bishop and after you make that choice you must use your advantage to beat your opponent, everbody gets to choose from the same things, making it balanced, just not predictable.

  • 12.19.2011 7:05 PM PDT

Forget it man, and get with the countdown. Shake this square world and blast off for Kicksville.

Reach host ranking algorithm: (a*quit_percentage + b*isMexican + c*(1/KDR) + d*hasGuest) * 100
where a > b = d > c

Posted by: Plunderfuq
I am fully prepared to suffer the consequences of my actions, which is basicly insults for liking a game we all play and frequent forums for, and I am the fool, strange.

You're a fool for making a thread about how you were going to defend Reach "and all its attributes", and then doing everything but that.

Posted by: Gh0st is Bad
The OP ignores logic and lives in a fantasy world.

Nothing else to see.

  • 12.19.2011 7:05 PM PDT

Who's got AIDS?

It started getting boring. At one point I wasn't having fun anymore. So I got rid of it. I haven't had the desire to get it back yet. I have Halo: CEA and if I want to play Reach I'll do it through that.

  • 12.19.2011 7:16 PM PDT

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Posted by: An average gamer

Posted by: Plunderfuq
Alright,game on! Im predicting a climb to 6 or 5 on live post Christmas and into the next couple of months. About a 20,000 population jump with solid retention. I have my reasons and my sources for why I think this will happen and a few things could help foster even more population.

Care to put some numbers down on what you believe will be the result of the holidays besides just losing player, which frankly would be impossible for the next couple of months.


As much as I love Reach, you are misinformed.

I am a cashier at Toys R Us. I see what sells first-hand as I am chiefly in electronics. What is selling is not Halo Reach/CEA. Mostly, the popular Xbox games right now (which aren't Kinect games) are FIFA, NHL, NBA, and Madden 12, CoD MW3, Skyrim, and NFS. Out of all of those, CoD and Skyrim are selling the best. For every probably 20 of those, a copy of Reach/CEA sells.

Beyond that, I also know that the focus isn't on the 250 GB bundles of the Xbox with the digital download of Reach. The main focus is on the Kinect bundles. Microsoft is really pushing those on us, and the consumers. Our Black Friday ad had the 4GB + Kinect bundle for $200 plus a gift card and we have been pushing only that bundle since while barely getting the others in stock.

Reach isn't high on sales, or priority, really. I still think it's great, but, at least from what I've seen, it's not really doing much for sales.
How many year old games did you see bundled with new xbox's(total sales for Black friday alone were close to one million)? How many year old games are even making any sort of showing in sales this years holiday season? How many year old games have new ownership which has a vested intrest in the future and present success as much as I imagine 343 is?

I could go on like pointing out to you that Toysr r us is not the only store selling copies of Reach and even if ten new players came out of your store, expanded accross the US, the numbers are BLAMMING astounding.

Never fear, you wont have to wait long to see the jump, it should be apparent the day of Christmas and continue with the January release of the live numbers. Further proven when the next numbers for live are released.

  • 12.19.2011 7:16 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sentox6
Posted by: Plunderfuq
I am fully prepared to suffer the consequences of my actions, which is basicly insults for liking a game we all play and frequent forums for, and I am the fool, strange.

You're a fool for making a thread about how you were going to defend Reach "and all its attributes", and then doing everything but that.

Posted by: Gh0st is Bad
The OP ignores logic and lives in a fantasy world.

Nothing else to see.
Then how come you cant seem to pull yourself away from my thread?

  • 12.19.2011 7:18 PM PDT

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Posted by: Get some thumbs

Posted by: AK FROST

Posted by: Plunderfuq

Posted by: Nephilim713
Reach is fine.
Agreed, it will more than suffice until 4 and if not there is always 3.


dont bring up halo 3it is unplayable atm.

Nooo, you can still find games so it obviously is playable!! Come on, who cares if these games have 19384 ping and are hosted by eskimos inside an igloo and you have to wait half an hour to find a game!
Exactly, if you enjoy the game, play if you dont, dont, seems so simple.

  • 12.19.2011 7:22 PM PDT
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The 343 forums suck. They're full of retarded kids and mods who got butthurt in the B.net forums for being told that they're bad.


Posted by: Plunderfuq

Posted by: Get some thumbs

Posted by: AK FROST

Posted by: Plunderfuq

Posted by: Nephilim713
Reach is fine.
Agreed, it will more than suffice until 4 and if not there is always 3.


dont bring up halo 3it is unplayable atm.

Nooo, you can still find games so it obviously is playable!! Come on, who cares if these games have 19384 ping and are hosted by eskimos inside an igloo and you have to wait half an hour to find a game!
Exactly, if you enjoy the game, play if you dont, dont, seems so simple.


But there's no proper Halo game that we CAN play. Halo 3 is crap now because of all the foreign host, and H2 is done.

  • 12.19.2011 7:26 PM PDT

Forget it man, and get with the countdown. Shake this square world and blast off for Kicksville.

Reach host ranking algorithm: (a*quit_percentage + b*isMexican + c*(1/KDR) + d*hasGuest) * 100
where a > b = d > c

Posted by: Plunderfuq
Then how come you cant seem to pull yourself away from my thread?

For the same reason I'll stop to look at a car crash. Morbid curiosity.

  • 12.19.2011 7:27 PM PDT

'Who Dares Wins'

Games are for entertainment purposes only, if you don't find it fun or enjoyable, maybe that game doesn't suit you.

e.g.
People that like Halo 3 and such may not like Halo: Reach because of the elements added, so thats why having less elements in a game suits you more.

Elements I mean such as : Armour abilities, cR or Credits, less requirements to unlock unique armour.

[Edited on 12.19.2011 7:31 PM PST]

  • 12.19.2011 7:27 PM PDT
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Reach has always provided me with a satisfactory degree of enjoyment.

  • 12.19.2011 7:29 PM PDT

Armor Lock makes gameplay slower.

You can't explain that.

  • 12.19.2011 7:35 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sentox6
Posted by: Plunderfuq
Then how come you cant seem to pull yourself away from my thread?

For the same reason I'll stop to look at a car crash. Morbid curiosity.
Keep watching, you might learn somthing.

  • 12.19.2011 7:54 PM PDT
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My Level. Get on it.


Posted by: RC Clone
Nope. SouthPole isn't a person. He's the avatar of the force of tryhards everywhere. He stalks the web looking for retards to set straight. He can not be stopped by mere bans or thread locks for he shall rise anew.


Posted by: Plunderfuq
I believe my opinion is being taken far more serious where it counts.


By butthurt community leaders? Okay, retard.
343 isn't going to take you seriously, and neither will we.

Know why? Because you're stupid. Sorry, Timmy, we're not all equal. Your best course of action is to drink lighter fluid.

  • 12.19.2011 7:54 PM PDT


Posted by: Plunderfuq
How many year old games did you see bundled with new xbox's(total sales for Black friday alone were close to one million)? How many year old games are even making any sort of showing in sales this years holiday season? How many year old games have new ownership which has a vested intrest in the future and present success as much as I imagine 343 is?

I could go on like pointing out to you that Toysr r us is not the only store selling copies of Reach and even if ten new players came out of your store, expanded accross the US, the numbers are BLAMMING astounding.

Never fear, you wont have to wait long to see the jump, it should be apparent the day of Christmas and continue with the January release of the live numbers. Further proven when the next numbers for live are released.


Reach is only bundled with the Xbox because it is published by Microsoft. I just want to be clear on that.

Also, Reach's age is irrelevant to this discussion. The point I was trying to make is that it is not selling nearly as well as other games. Honestly, Call of Duty 4, Modern Warfare 2, and Black Ops are still outselling it in the store I work at.

I was never trying to say that Reach is/should be outselling its newer, better counterparts. I was simply stating that I don't think there will be this massive jump after Christmas when so many other games are selling so much better. People won't want to play an older title on Dec. 26th when they have Skyrim, MW3, or Battlefield 3 to play.

  • 12.19.2011 7:57 PM PDT

Forget it man, and get with the countdown. Shake this square world and blast off for Kicksville.

Reach host ranking algorithm: (a*quit_percentage + b*isMexican + c*(1/KDR) + d*hasGuest) * 100
where a > b = d > c

Posted by: Plunderfuq
Keep watching, you might learn somthing.

How mentally retarded one person can be while still being able to operate a keyboard (albeit poorly)? How watching someone with subpar mental functions try to appear intelligent is downright sad? How much nonsense someone can write while avoiding the entire point of the topic at hand? How consistently the English language can be butchered?

I guess I'm learning lots.

  • 12.19.2011 7:58 PM PDT

私はルルーシュViにブリタニア時、私のコマンドに従う!

ピカレスク

Needed more "variety" in the vehicle department as well as needing a better sandbox.

I am hopeful that the concept art shown for Halo 4 will mean some sort of mech will be introduced via multiplayer or campaign.

  • 12.19.2011 7:58 PM PDT

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Posted by: CharlesBrown33
Armor Lock makes gameplay slower.

You can't explain that.
The average time it has taken a 50 kill 4v4 slayer game has been between 6-9 minutes depending on players, map and game variant from CE to Reach, Ive looked and can find nothing to suggest otherwise. Look through your records from 3 or 2 and look for yourself.

You have mistaken individual kill times which were faster and are now slower but are offset by the quickness a skirmish can escalate into fullteam bloodbaths.

Jetpack alone could allow for instant support from one side of Hemmorage to the other (sniper rifle required) and that is just an extreme example of what AA do to battle flow.

If game times have been the same from the first Halo to Reach and the match times have not changed, by exstension the fight has only changed but not lengthened, battles happen in a very non static way, perpetuated by an unlimited supply of AA goodness.

You call it game breaking, I call it, the game expanding and I am not making the rules, the developers are, so dont blame me.

[Edited on 12.19.2011 9:19 PM PST]

  • 12.19.2011 8:20 PM PDT
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The 343 forums suck. They're full of retarded kids and mods who got butthurt in the B.net forums for being told that they're bad.


Posted by: Plunderfuq

You're, like, really fuggin stupid.

  • 12.19.2011 8:31 PM PDT

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Posted by: An average gamer

Posted by: Plunderfuq
How many year old games did you see bundled with new xbox's(total sales for Black friday alone were close to one million)? How many year old games are even making any sort of showing in sales this years holiday season? How many year old games have new ownership which has a vested intrest in the future and present success as much as I imagine 343 is?

I could go on like pointing out to you that Toysr r us is not the only store selling copies of Reach and even if ten new players came out of your store, expanded accross the US, the numbers are BLAMMING astounding.

Never fear, you wont have to wait long to see the jump, it should be apparent the day of Christmas and continue with the January release of the live numbers. Further proven when the next numbers for live are released.


Reach is only bundled with the Xbox because it is published by Microsoft. I just want to be clear on that.

Also, Reach's age is irrelevant to this discussion. The point I was trying to make is that it is not selling nearly as well as other games. Honestly, Call of Duty 4, Modern Warfare 2, and Black Ops are still outselling it in the store I work at.

I was never trying to say that Reach is/should be outselling its newer, better counterparts. I was simply stating that I don't think there will be this massive jump after Christmas when so many other games are selling so much better. People won't want to play an older title on Dec. 26th when they have Skyrim, MW3, or Battlefield 3 to play.
I understand that and if I were MS I would have a vested intrest in pushing the single most important FPS title ever, which I now own outright.

Outselling it yes, but are the other games getting the nudge Reach is being included with basic xbox's? Oh I forgot to answer your kinect argument in the last post, here it is, lolkinect for about another 2-3 years, common, have you played the games?

As to your last point, we are speaking about Halo, a completely new generation of players are coming in with however many xboxs sold recently and guess what? They have heard about Halo and they are coming to play it. You honestly dont think Halo can attract 20,000 people out all the product that has sold this season?

  • 12.19.2011 8:34 PM PDT

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Posted by: B Rye

Posted by: Plunderfuq

You're, like, really fuggin stupid.
I know, dont worry, I will be gone soon and then you can get back to insulting each other.

  • 12.19.2011 8:36 PM PDT

Forget it man, and get with the countdown. Shake this square world and blast off for Kicksville.

Reach host ranking algorithm: (a*quit_percentage + b*isMexican + c*(1/KDR) + d*hasGuest) * 100
where a > b = d > c

Posted by: Plunderfuq
You honestly dont think Halo can attract 20,000 people out all the product that has sold this season?

LOL. Yeah, a September 2010 game is really going to make a run of it this Christmas.

The disappointing part is that when you're proven wrong, you'll be nowhere to be seen.

  • 12.19.2011 8:44 PM PDT