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Subject: Bring the thunder, defending Reach and all its attributes.

Forget it man, and get with the countdown. Shake this square world and blast off for Kicksville.

Reach host ranking algorithm: (a*quit_percentage + b*isMexican + c*(1/KDR) + d*hasGuest) * 100
where a > b = d > c

Posted by: Apocalypse
Yet these arguments do happen and you'll get Reach supports who will ignore whatever is explained to them and laid right in front of them. As a result you'll get "detractors" that get fed up with the ignorance and simply post "you're retarded" comments, instead of the actual logical, thought out posts (the few that were posted).

A thousand times this. Not long after Reach's release I spend a considerable amount of time making long, analytical posts arguing about the changes to Reach's mechanics that I felt were detrimental. In response to that - every time - I was simply told to "adapt".

The worst part is when the hundredth person who can't use their brain correctly and thinks bloom is beneficial comes along and tells me to provide a "proper argument" against it, as if they've somehow got the intellectual high ground. -blam!- you. I did. More than once. I've had enough. No combination of words will fix your mental incapacity.

  • 12.19.2011 11:26 AM PDT


Posted by: Sentox6
Posted by: Apocalypse
Yet these arguments do happen and you'll get Reach supports who will ignore whatever is explained to them and laid right in front of them. As a result you'll get "detractors" that get fed up with the ignorance and simply post "you're retarded" comments, instead of the actual logical, thought out posts (the few that were posted).

A thousand times this. Not long after Reach's release I spend a considerable amount of time making long, analytical posts arguing about the changes to Reach's mechanics that I felt were detrimental. In response to that - every time - I was simply told to "adapt".

The worst part is when the hundredth person who can't use their brain correctly and thinks bloom is beneficial comes along and tells me to provide a "proper argument" against it, as if they've somehow got the intellectual high ground. -blam!- you. I did. More than once. I've had enough. No combination of words will fix your mental incapacity.
Exactly. So instead of wasting time, I simply tell them to drink bleach hoping I'll help lower the stupidity of the general population.

  • 12.19.2011 11:32 AM PDT


Posted by: Plunderfuq

Posted by: Iron Div is Pro

Sonic
Mario
Rainbow Six
Elder Scrolls

There are plenty.
Except for Mario and a little tiny bit of sonic I am unfamilar with those titles. I would like to point out that for the one on the list that I have played since I was a kid, Mario, that franchise has gone through so much change in mechanics and gametypes in the last two decades and that maybe one of the contributing factors to its longevity. Perhaps people that love Halo should understand that it must evolve or suffer the harm caused by producing the same game.

Except for Mario and a little tiny bit of sonic I am unfamilar with those titles.
Elder Scrolls

There is literally no way you're serious.

  • 12.19.2011 11:37 AM PDT

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Posted by: Plunderfuq
Hey Web! One last thread for old time sake, with my usual brand of mischeif =D


Last? Do tell...

Oh, and this thread definitely has you usual panache...

  • 12.19.2011 11:38 AM PDT

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Posted by: Reality

Posted by: Plunderfuq

Posted by: Iron Div is Pro

Sonic
Mario
Rainbow Six
Elder Scrolls

There are plenty.
Except for Mario and a little tiny bit of sonic I am unfamilar with those titles. I would like to point out that for the one on the list that I have played since I was a kid, Mario, that franchise has gone through so much change in mechanics and gametypes in the last two decades and that maybe one of the contributing factors to its longevity. Perhaps people that love Halo should understand that it must evolve or suffer the harm caused by producing the same game.

Except for Mario and a little tiny bit of sonic I am unfamilar with those titles.
Elder Scrolls

There is literally no way you're serious.

I am aware of their exsistence, I just have not played them, so I an unable to make judgements as to wether they have changed the mechanics in their game.

[Edited on 12.19.2011 11:46 AM PST]

  • 12.19.2011 11:40 AM PDT
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Posted by: RyanW
So......much.....stupidity......

  • 12.19.2011 11:41 AM PDT

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Posted by: WebFootFreak

Posted by: Plunderfuq
Hey Web! One last thread for old time sake, with my usual brand of mischeif =D


Last? Do tell...

Oh, and this thread definitely has you usual panache...
Last as far as it concerns Bnet Reach forum, an invitation was extended to me via waypoint and I could not resist its allure of stimulating debate and I am a glutton for punishment.

  • 12.19.2011 11:43 AM PDT

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Posted by: Ninjection

Posted by: Plunderfuq
The only people who get to decide that are the developers, the rest of us just have to listen to you guys rant for however long it takes for the developer to release a new Halo so a new batch of tantrums because of the changes can begin.
And now you're just sucking Bungie's dick.

Adapt + fanboy + incorrectly spelled words = you're retarded.
I am thankful to Bungie for a decade of great game play, this does not require felicio, and I was wondering if you have ever mispelled word before?

  • 12.19.2011 11:50 AM PDT

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I see... well, if you're on friday you can gimme the details.

  • 12.19.2011 11:51 AM PDT
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Posted by: Plunderfuq
Reach is a good game cuz I enjoy it, nuff said


This is basically what we are all seeing right now, and you think it is a fact and not an opinion.

  • 12.19.2011 11:52 AM PDT

Plunderfuq, your opinion doesn't matter because you aren't good.

  • 12.19.2011 11:53 AM PDT

Forget it man, and get with the countdown. Shake this square world and blast off for Kicksville.

Reach host ranking algorithm: (a*quit_percentage + b*isMexican + c*(1/KDR) + d*hasGuest) * 100
where a > b = d > c

Posted by: Plunderfuq
this does not require felicio

Indeed.

and I was wondering if you have ever mispelled word before?
Yes. Misspelling multiple words in every sentence, as you are doing? Not so much.

  • 12.19.2011 11:57 AM PDT
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I lost all respect for OP and the other dick lickers on the waypoint website when they banned me because I said no bloom and spawning with the same stuff made Halo what it was for me.

[Edited on 12.19.2011 12:02 PM PST]

  • 12.19.2011 12:02 PM PDT

lolnope.


Posted by: Seven
I lost all respect for OP and the other dick lickers on the waypoint website when they banned me because I said no bloom and spawning with the same stuff made Halo what it was for me.
You have to be careful how you word your posts over on the waypoint forums. You get crucified if you don't.

  • 12.19.2011 12:08 PM PDT

lol. "HEY MAN DONT DISAGREE WITH OUR RETARDED OPINION"

  • 12.19.2011 12:08 PM PDT

lolnope.


Posted by: sSektor
lol. "HEY MAN DONT DISAGREE WITH OUR RETARDED OPINION"
STOP HAVING A DIFFERENT VIEW AND OPINION ON THINGS! MY OPINION IS THE ONLY THING THAT COUNTS IN THIS WORLD SO -blam!- YUO GAI!!!!?11??1

  • 12.19.2011 12:10 PM PDT
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Posted by: sSektor
lol. "HEY MAN DONT DISAGREE WITH OUR RETARDED OPINION"
STOP HAVING A DIFFERENT VIEW AND OPINION ON THINGS! MY OPINION IS THE ONLY THING THAT COUNTS IN THIS WORLD SO -blam!- YUO GAI!!!!?11??1


Banned

  • 12.19.2011 12:11 PM PDT
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Posted by: Seven
IMO no bloom and spawning with the same stuff was what made Halo... well... Halo for me over the past 10 years.

WHAT!?
-bans-



Only other things I said where that I agreed with the OP and I jokingly posted something saying that if you don't like Reach you're gonna be banned. Guess they proved me right.

  • 12.19.2011 12:14 PM PDT

Hold on, why didn't my first post get deleted? fkn lol


I'm going to hit community leader status on that forum, just so I can disagree with the retarded OP and not get banned.

  • 12.19.2011 12:18 PM PDT

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Posted by: WebFootFreak
I see... well, if you're on friday you can gimme the details.
Sounds good brother, see you then.

  • 12.19.2011 12:18 PM PDT
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Posted by: RC Clone
Nope. SouthPole isn't a person. He's the avatar of the force of tryhards everywhere. He stalks the web looking for retards to set straight. He can not be stopped by mere bans or thread locks for he shall rise anew.

I'm sorry, but this is Bnet. You may have free roam to live in your imaginary world over at waypoint, but around these parts, bad players don't get opinions.

  • 12.19.2011 12:19 PM PDT
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Posted by: Plunderfuq
I can, but logic is judged to be so by you currently and forgive me for saying this, I believe you have made judgements about my logic before it has been written.


I honestly don't even know what this means, you've shown no "logic" in my eyes with your "arguments". You've simply said you think its a good game because you enjoy it, because you're casual and will play it regardless.

Which as I stated, is all fine and dandy. Whats not unicorns and rainbows (why am i using these weird phrases)? is that you're trying to claim that as your basis of your arguments. Arguments that you don't even know about.


I do, I have been watching two forums for a year, trust me, I am well aware of the list of things "competitive" players think is wrong with Reach. At this point, after a year the arguments are still the same basic ones, just different reasons. Example: AL was OP, now its unbalanced or breaks the flow of play or all of them.


As just previously stated, you don't know. The only things you see are the most common, by idiots who just scream an shout and do not help the case at all. You have yet to see an actual, in depth, thought out, logical argument against Reach.

If you want one, try to bring up actual logical points and views, as to why Reach is a good game (in general) in your eyes. Not just a "Its a good game cuz I like to play it, nuff said".

Then I should simplify my meaning: If after a year, you still play Reach, but have continued to have more bad to say about it then good, you are frankly losing credibility by the day.

Where to start with this one..........

You're already wrong, I played the beta and knew it would need to be drastically changed. It wasn't, I still played with friends and gave it a chance for a couple months after its release. I then ended up having enough and so did my friends, I stopped playing (and so did they, in fact most of them are still gone/done with Halo) from anywhere from 10-12 months after this period and only came back due to the mention of the TU.

I've been back for 3 months (until a few weeks ago) solely because of the TU, yet I only accumulated 3 days of game time. Two days of which are entirely playing ZB, NS customs.

So no, I do not play this game, nor do I plan on playing it again because it is bad and probably will remain bad. Its been made 100x better with the updates to MLG but that still needs a ton of work. Even then, there's no point in playing, there's no intensive of wanting to play, win, get better, theres no replay value.


Everything else you said that I did not quote was just a disguised "Adapt N00b" comment. Back to the drawing board, try again.


Logical rebutals expand farther than bloom and AA for the reason why they are valid, perhaps you should rejoin your debate class and relearn the finite rule of debating. Or perhaps retake your courses on philosophy as I believe you have missed the point of the debate and my logic.

You brought up Bloom and AA's, have yet to bring up logical arguments to why you see these as "good" changes or "beneficial" to gameplay. I have yet to see anything out of you other than "Its a good game because I enjoy playing it, nuff said".

You have brought nothing to the "debate" and have not shown any logical rebuttals or view points as to why Reach is a good game.

Nor have you given anything to set the floor for people to give you logical, thought out reasons why its a bad game.

This entire thread has been completely pointless, because once again your whole "argument" is "its good because I like to play it, end of story".

Yet you keep perusing it like you've actually got a good case, and you don't.

Again, back to the drawing board. Hopefully you present something logical, but I have my doubts.

  • 12.19.2011 12:21 PM PDT

Lol

Here is two good questions, why didn't bungie in all halo games they made allowed in custom game options to change individual weapon damage characteristics? And why didn't they give us a better map editor where we can make our own maps (including aesthetics) from the ground up? This way MLG and others could of just made the game they wanted while letting Bungie have their own. Both the casual and the competitive community would of been happy, playing the game exactly how they want it. And please don't say money issues, they made lots of profit from all halo games. More than enough to include the things mentioned.

  • 12.19.2011 12:24 PM PDT

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Posted by: sSektor
Hold on, why didn't my first post get deleted? fkn lol


I'm going to hit community leader status on that forum, just so I can disagree with the retarded OP and not get banned.
Perhaps if you could refrain from using words like "retarded" you could stay long enough to make a valid point in the only place, where ideas are actively being listen for the direction of Reach, but hey I know, Im retarded.

[Edited on 12.19.2011 12:25 PM PST]

  • 12.19.2011 12:24 PM PDT
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Posted by: RC Clone
Nope. SouthPole isn't a person. He's the avatar of the force of tryhards everywhere. He stalks the web looking for retards to set straight. He can not be stopped by mere bans or thread locks for he shall rise anew.

It's not even like I called someone retarded or bad. The kids who got mod status over there are probably just kids who were butthurt from here.

  • 12.19.2011 12:26 PM PDT