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Subject: Bring the thunder, defending Reach and all its attributes.

Harass the harassers.


Posted by: sSektor

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Posted by: sSektor
It's pretty hard to refrain from insults when someone who has no idea what they're talking about thinks their opinion means something.


Then whose opinion is invalid and why.


...the person that has no idea what he's talking about...because he has no idea what he's talking about
That is very compelling logic.

  • 12.19.2011 1:45 PM PDT

Harass the harassers.


Posted by: sSektor
That's the thing though, I didn't use the word retarded. My post just happened to not get deleted even though I was criticizing Reach. In fact most of the posts in that thread were constructive. But apparently if one person gets upset on that forum then every post with a differing opinion gets deleted.
If you were part of that thread on waypoint titled "this is for your own good 343" then you apparently have not bothered to read the rules of the forum, as the clearly state that several of the post not only crossed the line, the pole vaulted over them. This is most likely a by product of thinking you may conduct yourself the way you do on this forum, which you cant, as you found out.

  • 12.19.2011 1:49 PM PDT
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Posted by: Horse Repairman
RC RuNz the internet. Like the superintendent.

Posted by: SouthPoIe
Clone is an internet God.

Posted by: DerpRoids
RC Clone is the anti-thesis of a lurker.


Posted by: ParagonRenegade

Posted by: RC Clone

polished. Default is terrible and the game only gets saved in customs nand mlg where you strip the greasy diarrhea that got added.


MLG gametypes suck dik

The only problem is that those settings aren't the ones Reach shipped as default. Bloom is bad. The loadout system in everything besides Invasion is bad and even in Invasion it isn't used to it's full potential. and we're too slow and weak.

The only things wrong with TU are the added health damage to melees and nades still being so bad.

  • 12.19.2011 1:50 PM PDT

Posted by: CultMiester4000
I'm not really an Apple person (Bananas forever) but damn, that's kinda sad.


Posted by: RC Clone


The sandbox is bad in ZB, mostly because the game wasn't designed with ZB inmind

[Edited on 12.19.2011 1:54 PM PST]

  • 12.19.2011 1:53 PM PDT
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Posted by: Plunderfuq
If you read the post, the only claim I make is that I have a mental ability that excedes mental retardation.



Mehhhhhhhh

  • 12.19.2011 1:54 PM PDT
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Posted by: Horse Repairman
RC RuNz the internet. Like the superintendent.

Posted by: SouthPoIe
Clone is an internet God.

Posted by: DerpRoids
RC Clone is the anti-thesis of a lurker.


Posted by: ParagonRenegade

Posted by: RC Clone


The sandbox is bad in ZB, mostly because the game wasn't designed with ZB inmind

Only the movement. Which had started out getting slower with Halo 3. Reach just continued that.

Vehicle health, instant kill Banshee bomb and Fuel rod gun are other mistakes I don't like.

  • 12.19.2011 1:56 PM PDT

Religion breeds hate

I like how Reach is different, of course I didn't find it as awesome as 2 or 3 but like you said there's gotta be some change.

  • 12.19.2011 1:57 PM PDT

Planking : Parkour for people who don't move very fast.

Funny, most of the people that call the changes in Reach "steps backward" would rather play Halo 3. Ironic.

  • 12.19.2011 2:01 PM PDT

Marine Corps.
Semper Fi.

Posted by: Wikked Navajoe
My problems [with Reach] are basically just full parties, mlg, and people who go out of their way not to get killed.

Reach made many changes to the Halo formula that were unnecessary and implemented for the sake of change. As it turns out, that happened to be for the worse in many circumstances.

  • 12.19.2011 2:03 PM PDT

Posted by: CultMiester4000
I'm not really an Apple person (Bananas forever) but damn, that's kinda sad.


Posted by: RC Clone
Vehicle health, instant kill Banshee bomb and Fuel rod gun are other mistakes I don't like.


The Banshee bomb is the Fuel rod :D

But ya

Halo 3 had the best vehicles in the series

  • 12.19.2011 2:05 PM PDT
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Posted by: WulfwoodsSins
Funny, most of the people that call the changes in Reach "steps backward" would rather play Halo 3. Ironic.


*looks at H3 stats


smh

  • 12.19.2011 2:06 PM PDT

Forget it man, and get with the countdown. Shake this square world and blast off for Kicksville.

Reach host ranking algorithm: (a*quit_percentage + b*isMexican + c*(1/KDR) + d*hasGuest) * 100
where a > b = d > c

ITT: OP claims to defend Reach intelligently, instead repeats "it's good because I like it" ad infinitum. Displays shocking diction, grammar, spelling, and punctuation while doing so.

  • 12.19.2011 2:13 PM PDT
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Posted by: WulfwoodsSins
Funny, most of the people that call the changes in Reach "steps backward" would rather play Halo 3. Ironic.


Nope Halo 2.


Post invalid.

  • 12.19.2011 2:24 PM PDT

Posted by: aBlueBookshelf
Goat was famous. Irie was infamous. Gh0st was FaMaS.

My stats in Halol 4

Typical Waypoint post.
no it's "its got to go" you wouldn't say the "it is got to go" would you?

Reach is awful

Your argument is terrible

Move on, people.

  • 12.19.2011 2:26 PM PDT

Harass the harassers.


Posted by: Sentox6
ITT: OP claims to defend Reach intelligently, instead repeats "it's good because I like it" ad infinitum. Displays shocking diction, grammar, spelling, and punctuation while doing so.
Your main detracting point to my argument has been grammatical errors.

  • 12.19.2011 2:29 PM PDT

It is not as fun as other Halos. I need the last resort of always playing in teams in order to have any significant amount of fun in it.
CE was the most fun when I played it 10 years ago, and it's still fun now.

[Edited on 12.19.2011 2:31 PM PST]

  • 12.19.2011 2:31 PM PDT

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Posted by: Gh0st is Bad
Reach is awful

Your argument is terrible

Move on, people.
Moving on seems to be immpossible for alot of players, thusly, the point of the thread.

  • 12.19.2011 2:31 PM PDT
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Posted by: Horse Repairman
RC RuNz the internet. Like the superintendent.

Posted by: SouthPoIe
Clone is an internet God.

Posted by: DerpRoids
RC Clone is the anti-thesis of a lurker.


Posted by: ParagonRenegade

Posted by: RC Clone
Vehicle health, instant kill Banshee bomb and Fuel rod gun are other mistakes I don't like.


The Banshee bomb is the Fuel rod :D

But ya

Halo 3 had the best vehicles in the series

I was talking about the hand held one.

  • 12.19.2011 2:32 PM PDT

Planking : Parkour for people who don't move very fast.


Posted by: Apocalypse

Posted by: WulfwoodsSins
Funny, most of the people that call the changes in Reach "steps backward" would rather play Halo 3. Ironic.


Nope Halo 2.


Post invalid.



Oh, so you would rather go FURTHER back. My bad.

  • 12.19.2011 2:33 PM PDT
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You didn't even bother with this, so I'll post it again. Quoting it made it look sloppy.


Posted by: Plunderfuq
I can, but logic is judged to be so by you currently and forgive me for saying this, I believe you have made judgements about my logic before it has been written.


I honestly don't even know what this means, you've shown no "logic" in my eyes with your "arguments". You've simply said you think its a good game because you enjoy it, because you're casual and will play it regardless.

Which as I stated, is all fine and dandy. Whats not unicorns and rainbows (why am i using these weird phrases)? is that you're trying to claim that as your basis of your arguments. Arguments that you don't even know about.


I do, I have been watching two forums for a year, trust me, I am well aware of the list of things "competitive" players think is wrong with Reach. At this point, after a year the arguments are still the same basic ones, just different reasons. Example: AL was OP, now its unbalanced or breaks the flow of play or all of them.


As just previously stated, you don't know. The only things you see are the most common, by idiots who just scream an shout and do not help the case at all. You have yet to see an actual, in depth, thought out, logical argument against Reach.

If you want one, try to bring up actual logical points and views, as to why Reach is a good game (in general) in your eyes. Not just a "Its a good game cuz I like to play it, nuff said".

Then I should simplify my meaning: If after a year, you still play Reach, but have continued to have more bad to say about it then good, you are frankly losing credibility by the day.

Where to start with this one..........

You're already wrong, I played the beta and knew it would need to be drastically changed. It wasn't, I still played with friends and gave it a chance for a couple months after its release. I then ended up having enough and so did my friends, I stopped playing (and so did they, in fact most of them are still gone/done with Halo) from anywhere from 10-12 months after this period and only came back due to the mention of the TU.

I've been back for 3 months (until a few weeks ago) solely because of the TU, yet I only accumulated 3 days of game time. Two days of which are entirely playing ZB, NS customs.

So no, I do not play this game, nor do I plan on playing it again because it is bad and probably will remain bad. Its been made 100x better with the updates to MLG but that still needs a ton of work. Even then, there's no point in playing, there's no intensive of wanting to play, win, get better, theres no replay value.


Everything else you said that I did not quote was just a disguised "Adapt N00b" comment. Back to the drawing board, try again.


Logical rebutals expand farther than bloom and AA for the reason why they are valid, perhaps you should rejoin your debate class and relearn the finite rule of debating. Or perhaps retake your courses on philosophy as I believe you have missed the point of the debate and my logic.

You brought up Bloom and AA's, have yet to bring up logical arguments to why you see these as "good" changes or "beneficial" to gameplay. I have yet to see anything out of you other than "Its a good game because I enjoy playing it, nuff said".

You have brought nothing to the "debate" and have not shown any logical rebuttals or view points as to why Reach is a good game.

Nor have you given anything to set the floor for people to give you logical, thought out reasons why its a bad game.

This entire thread has been completely pointless, because once again your whole "argument" is "its good because I like to play it, end of story".

Yet you keep perusing it like you've actually got a good case, and you don't.

Again, back to the drawing board. Hopefully you present something logical, but I have my doubts.


[Edited on 12.19.2011 2:35 PM PST]

  • 12.19.2011 2:33 PM PDT

Harass the harassers.


Posted by: ThreeSixXero
It is not as fun as other Halos. I need the last resort of always playing in teams in order to have any significant amount of fun in it.
CE was the most fun when I played it 10 years ago, and it's still fun now.
Me too, but for different reasons. I miss the brotherhood shared amoung Halo players in the beginning, it was us against them, not us against us. That is the most disturbing thing to this Halo fan.

  • 12.19.2011 2:33 PM PDT

Forget it man, and get with the countdown. Shake this square world and blast off for Kicksville.

Reach host ranking algorithm: (a*quit_percentage + b*isMexican + c*(1/KDR) + d*hasGuest) * 100
where a > b = d > c

Posted by: Plunderfuq
Your main detracting point to my argument has been grammatical errors.

My main detracting point to your argument is that you don't have an argument, other than "my subjective experience is definitive".

Go ahead, post some persuasive and intelligent analytical insight validating the gameplay changes in Reach. Of course I know you won't, because you can't. It'll be amusing to see what pathetically hollow red herring you produce to try and avoid the point.

  • 12.19.2011 2:33 PM PDT

Reach fails as a game.

Get jealous.

I'll give you a campaign-only list, let's see how you handle it. Because arguing with someone as dumb as you about MP is like arguing with a wall.

*The battle for Reach was short, The Coveneant found Reach on Augus 30th, 2552, and defeated it the same day, or up to a week later. No more, and certainly not the months of time that Halo Reach is.
*The Pillar of Autumn was never on Reach.
*By that, Cortana could not have been carried by N6 to the PoA.
*PoA insignia altered.
*Reach was not defended nearly as well as described. I saw 1 orbital defense station in the game, where in the books it's described to have the second most, only behind Earth itself.
*The UNSC force on Reach (in game) is so small, it's laughable. Whereas in the books, it has a considerably sized fleet.
*Halsey knew pretty much nothing about the SIII project, yet when she encounters Noble Team, she acts as if she knew them all the time.
*Jorge, a Spartan II, working on the same team as SIII's
*Spartans, as described in the books, are augmented so that their personality is almost robotic. They only speak when spoken too, and address all superiors as "sir". We don't see that happen once in Reach. In being robotic, they don't talk back, and their skillset is much higher. Jun and Emile are more of ODST's, if that. Buck is more of a spartan than either of them.
*Carter, Jun, and Emile died 20 years prior to the events of Reach (All of Alpha was KIA on the same mission).
The list goes on and on, that only touches the surface.

  • 12.19.2011 2:34 PM PDT

Forget it man, and get with the countdown. Shake this square world and blast off for Kicksville.

Reach host ranking algorithm: (a*quit_percentage + b*isMexican + c*(1/KDR) + d*hasGuest) * 100
where a > b = d > c

Posted by: Apocalypse
Posted by: Plunderfuq
I can, but logic is judged to be so by you currently and forgive me for saying this, I believe you have made judgements about my logic before it has been written.


I honestly don't even know what this means, you've shown no "logic" in my eyes with your "arguments". You've simply said you think its a good game because you enjoy it, because you're casual and will play it regardless.

Which as I stated, is all fine and dandy. Whats not unicorns and rainbows (why am i using these weird phrases)? is that you're trying to claim that as your basis of your arguments. Arguments that you don't even know about.


I do, I have been watching two forums for a year, trust me, I am well aware of the list of things "competitive" players think is wrong with Reach. At this point, after a year the arguments are still the same basic ones, just different reasons. Example: AL was OP, now its unbalanced or breaks the flow of play or all of them.


As just previously stated, you don't know. The only things you see are the most common, by idiots who just scream an shout and do not help the case at all. You have yet to see an actual, in depth, thought out, logical argument against Reach.

If you want one, try to bring up actual logical points and views, as to why Reach is a good game (in general) in your eyes. Not just a "Its a good game cuz I like to play it, nuff said".

Then I should simplify my meaning: If after a year, you still play Reach, but have continued to have more bad to say about it then good, you are frankly losing credibility by the day.

Where to start with this one..........

You're already wrong, I played the beta and knew it would need to be drastically changed. It wasn't, I still played with friends and gave it a chance for a couple months after its release. I then ended up having enough and so did my friends, I stopped playing (and so did they, in fact most of them are still gone/done with Halo) from anywhere from 10-12 months after this period and only came back due to the mention of the TU.

I've been back for 3 months (until a few weeks ago) solely because of the TU, yet I only accumulated 3 days of game time. Two days of which are entirely playing ZB, NS customs.

So no, I do not play this game, nor do I plan on playing it again because it is bad and probably will remain bad. Its been made 100x better with the updates to MLG but that still needs a ton of work. Even then, there's no point in playing, there's no intensive of wanting to play, win, get better, theres no replay value.


Everything else you said that I did not quote was just a disguised "Adapt N00b" comment. Back to the drawing board, try again.


Logical rebutals expand farther than bloom and AA for the reason why they are valid, perhaps you should rejoin your debate class and relearn the finite rule of debating. Or perhaps retake your courses on philosophy as I believe you have missed the point of the debate and my logic.

You brought up Bloom and AA's, have yet to bring up logical arguments to why you see these as "good" changes or "beneficial" to gameplay. I have yet to see anything out of you other than "Its a good game because I enjoy playing it, nuff said".

You have brought nothing to the "debate" and have not shown any logical rebuttals or view points as to why Reach is a good game.

Nor have you given anything to set the floor for people to give you logical, thought out reasons why its a bad game.

This entire thread has been completely pointless, because once again your whole "argument" is "its good because I like to play it, end of story".

Yet you keep perusing it like you've actually got a good case, and you don't.

Again, back to the drawing board. Hopefully you present something logical, but I have my doubts.

  • 12.19.2011 2:34 PM PDT

Posted by: aBlueBookshelf
Goat was famous. Irie was infamous. Gh0st was FaMaS.

My stats in Halol 4

Typical Waypoint post.
no it's "its got to go" you wouldn't say the "it is got to go" would you?

Posted by: Plunderfuq

Moving on seems to be immpossible for alot of players, thusly, the point of the thread.
Get over it, retard.

Nothing you have ever suggested has ever made logical sense. Go back and play Living Dead and get shat on by 12 year olds.

  • 12.19.2011 2:35 PM PDT