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Subject: Bring the thunder, defending Reach and all its attributes.

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Posted by: Apocalypse

Posted by: WulfwoodsSins

And how is H1 not a step back? Sure.



Gameplay wise? H1 and 2 are definitely not steps back. But unsurprisingly, you have no knowledge of that subject.

People like yourself only care for shiny graphics, pretty lighting effects and kewl customization and not what actual matter about a game, its gameplay.

So keep asking for more nice lighting effects so you can look mindless around during a game. Is that what you kids are doing when you look so clueless? Just admiring the scenery? All makes sense now.

Can't forget to keep asking for more armor so you can play dress up all day, oh almost didn't mention keep begging to dumb the game down more an more, complaining how its too hard to get kills.

I can see it now....

Halo 6, pre-order it an get max rank and all 2,000 armor configurations, achievements and commendations unlocked for you!

Also, since using a controller and aiming is too hard, who ever looks at the other player first kills them. But the fact that Kinect is expanding, who ever has the more retarded look/expression on their face in real life will get the best luck in order to out kill their opponent, hell give them over shields as well.


I never played halo 1/2 so I have no knowledge or relevant opinion about the two. I like CEA tho.

I care about graphics, if the nexthalo looked like halo 1 I wouldn't buy it even if it was amazing I need graphics to keep me hooked. Customization is good as well I dont see what's so bad about that.

Nah, Im probably eating or distracted.

You know i like armor if they had more it would be pretty awesome.

If halo 6 had 2k pieces of armor id buy it right now. My gai would look so kewl man.
kinect sucks nah mean.

  • 12.19.2011 3:35 PM PDT
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Posted by: WulfwoodsSins

You clearly don't have any understanding of gameplay.

  • 12.19.2011 3:38 PM PDT

OP is the definition of a literate retard. Using big words and proper grammar to support pants on head retarded view points and ideas.

  • 12.19.2011 3:40 PM PDT

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Posted by: Seven
I lost all respect for OP and the other dick lickers on the waypoint website when they banned me because I said no bloom and spawning with the same stuff made Halo what it was for me.
I highly doubt that you presented it without the same exact verbiage contained 9 words into this post, which will not fly around there. I would suggest a few lessons in edicate and perhaps a little more effort to be polite, then you will be able to be part of waypoint.

  • 12.19.2011 3:41 PM PDT

I intend to live forever, or die trying,

so far, so good.


Posted by: ParagonRenegade

Posted by: RC Clone
Vehicle health, instant kill Banshee bomb and Fuel rod gun are other mistakes I don't like.


The Banshee bomb is the Fuel rod :D

But ya

Halo 3 had the best vehicles in the series


I miss the Chopper.

  • 12.19.2011 3:41 PM PDT

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Posted by: sSektor
OP is the definition of a literate retard. Using big words and proper grammar to support pants on head retarded view points and ideas.
Im not sure if you have wrote a single post without the word retard somewhere in it, thats dedication.

  • 12.19.2011 3:43 PM PDT

Planking : Parkour for people who don't move very fast.


Posted by: Get some thumbs
Because obviously everyone must have wasted money to buy the anniversary game to get some maps for this retarded game.
I'm baffled by your lack of logic.


Hey, wanna guess how much I payed for those maps? NOTHING. That's right, I got them free. Now lets assume each and every person who bought CEA did so wanting the classic Halo feel on old maps. Oh hey, they got the maps free for Reach too!
Now that having been said, they paid 40 bucks for CEA, or 1200 MSP for the pack, or via code given out via 343. But that is assuming that someone would pay money for something they don't like or ever intend to use.

Those 4 lists ARE THE ENTIRETY OF CEAS MULTIPLAYER COMMUNITY. That's right, play the maps from Reach, play the maps from CEA ... it's the same servers and playlists. The two don't have separate numbers.

I'm baffled by your lack of common knowledge.

  • 12.19.2011 3:45 PM PDT

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Posted by: THOMSY99

Posted by: ParagonRenegade

Posted by: RC Clone
Vehicle health, instant kill Banshee bomb and Fuel rod gun are other mistakes I don't like.


The Banshee bomb is the Fuel rod :D

But ya

Halo 3 had the best vehicles in the series


I miss the Chopper.
I miss alot of the brute specific stuff, spike nades were fun to use, maybe in 4 *crosses fingers*

  • 12.19.2011 3:46 PM PDT
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OP, I've only stuck around so long because I'm awfully curious to what your actual intention was with this thread.

  • 12.19.2011 3:46 PM PDT
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If Halo 4 is anything close to Reach... God forbids Humanity.

I like Reach, but AA's, bloom or anything that makes Reach so bad should be abolished for the good of the franchise. I hate to say this, but your opinion holds no weight on this matter. Let the Competitive players take charge.

[Edited on 12.19.2011 3:52 PM PST]

  • 12.19.2011 3:46 PM PDT

Marine Corps.
Semper Fi.

Posted by: Wikked Navajoe
My problems [with Reach] are basically just full parties, mlg, and people who go out of their way not to get killed.


Posted by: Plunderfuq

Posted by: WulfwoodsSins


I should assume then, that if Halo 1 and 2 gamplay is what people really want, the playlists catered to that demographic should be packed! Hold on, I'm on right now, lemme check ...

Team Slayer : 7453.
Anniversary Classic : 1557.

Squad Slayer : 1199
Anni. Squad : 510

BTB : 5110
Anni BTB : 1354

Rumble Pit : 1631
Anni FFA : 432

YUP. People really enjoy that super-advanced Halo 1 style gameplay. Look at the way is just beats default Reach in numbers!

But let's hear your justification.

I wait with abaited breath for the answer to this one.


Not everyone who purchased Reach purchased the DLC or Anniversary. That said, those numbers are actually really high when you take into consideration the ratio.

  • 12.19.2011 3:53 PM PDT

Planking : Parkour for people who don't move very fast.


Posted by: Apocalypse

Posted by: WulfwoodsSins

You clearly don't have any understanding of gameplay.



Sure I do. Faster kills, map control, individual skill without the influence of randomness and outside factors such as AAs and bloom. One can understand good gameplay without being good at an individual game.

But I'm also a realist. I don't pine for 10 or 8 year old games when the latest instalment barely passed a year, and the first of the next 3 games being the primary focus of those who are in charge now.

It's a bitter pill to swallow, I know. But Reach is the way it is. 343 has even said any major overhaul to gameplay is impossible at this point because they are up to their eyeballs making Halo 4 everything Reach isn't. And if they made it like Halo 1 and 2, it wouldn't sell, save to those who don their nostalgia goggles.

Time to stop kicking the dead horse.

  • 12.19.2011 3:54 PM PDT

I have to admit, I stopped playing Reach from 11/11 to 12/15 for Skrim, and I missed it. The game is still fun. It has taken me a bit to get used to playing multi-player again. But, I think my Skyrim break actually made me appreciate Reach again.

  • 12.19.2011 3:55 PM PDT

I intend to live forever, or die trying,

so far, so good.


Posted by: ShadowLordDaniel
If Halo 4 is anything close to Reach... God forbids Humanity.

I like Reach, but AA's, bloom or anything that makes Reach so bad should be abolished for the good of the franchise. I hate to say this, but your opinion holds no weight on this matter. Let the Competitive players take charge.


I think Halo 4, needs to be much more like Halo 3 than REACH. Take some of the good idears from REACH and improve on them for Halo 4.

AA I think were a good new twist, but Halo 3 Equipment was more brutal, if used correctly or incorrectly could change the battle.

You don't seem to get this with AA, and you have unlimited use. I like to see AA retyrn in Halo 4, but as Equipment, exactly as Halo 3.

The Halo REACH Scropian Tank weapons are perfect, but needs to drive like Halo 3.

The Banshee, needs to be nerfed to more like Halo 3, or a quick fix, is to keep it the same, but flips drian your power meter. And have the rockets have better lock on, as they do miss alot.

The main thing Halo 4 will need is True Skill Ranking System. Halo 3 updated Ranking system was great. You could have an overall rank, for your expereince.

  • 12.19.2011 3:58 PM PDT

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Posted by: THOMSY99

Posted by: ShadowLordDaniel
If Halo 4 is anything close to Reach... God forbids Humanity.

I like Reach, but AA's, bloom or anything that makes Reach so bad should be abolished for the good of the franchise. I hate to say this, but your opinion holds no weight on this matter. Let the Competitive players take charge.


I think Halo 4, needs to be much more like Halo 3 than REACH. Take some of the good idears from REACH and improve on them for Halo 4.

AA I think were a good new twist, but Halo 3 Equipment was more brutal, if used correctly or incorrectly could change the battle.

You don't seem to get this with AA, and you have unlimited use. I like to see AA retyrn in Halo 4, but as Equipment, exactly as Halo 3.

The Halo REACH Scropian Tank weapons are perfect, but needs to drive like Halo 3.

The Banshee, needs to be nerfed to more like Halo 3, or a quick fix, is to keep it the same, but flips drian your power meter. And have the rockets have better lock on, as they do miss alot.

The main thing Halo 4 will need is True Skill Ranking System. Halo 3 updated Ranking system was great. You could have an overall rank, for your expereince.


lolEquipment
lolVehicles
lolHalo3rankingsystem
lolHalo 3

  • 12.19.2011 4:04 PM PDT

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Posted by: albinogoat
I have to admit, I stopped playing Reach from 11/11 to 12/15 for Skrim, and I missed it. The game is still fun. It has taken me a bit to get used to playing multi-player again. But, I think my Skyrim break actually made me appreciate Reach again.
I heard Skyrim was amazing but the biggest hurdle it will have to face as far as longevity is its lack of MP.

  • 12.19.2011 4:05 PM PDT

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Posted by: Get some thumbs
I don't really know how you got the maps without paying, but as far as I know if someone wants to play the anniversary maps he either has to buy the maps or buy CEA. So, I'm asking you once more, why should anyone care to buy these maps? I personally wouldn't as Reach sucks, and I'm not the only one who thinks this way.
Your reasoning implies that everyone must have either bought CEA or bought the maps. You're wrong. Very wrong.


As for how I got them, BS Angel gave out codes all day Dec. 9th. As for why anyone would buy the maps, use common sense. Why would anyone buy any map pack on it's own? You think a worthy reason not to, is because you don't like Reach.

So let's remove Reach from the equation, shall we? Let's assume everyone playing in those lists ONLY bought CEA. Let's go a step further, and say they bought CEA for the sole reason they heard about the changes 343 made to make it more like Halo, and they got rid of Reach long ago. We can derive two facts from this.

A) CEA is now dead, since Reach is, and CEA has less people playing it.

B) If Halo CE was to be -just- reskinned with the only thing being added to the multiplayer being LIVE function, and everything played the same, it would have a very small community.

  • 12.19.2011 4:09 PM PDT

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Posted by: Viper Skills

Posted by: Plunderfuq

Posted by: WulfwoodsSins


I should assume then, that if Halo 1 and 2 gamplay is what people really want, the playlists catered to that demographic should be packed! Hold on, I'm on right now, lemme check ...

Team Slayer : 7453.
Anniversary Classic : 1557.

Squad Slayer : 1199
Anni. Squad : 510

BTB : 5110
Anni BTB : 1354

Rumble Pit : 1631
Anni FFA : 432

YUP. People really enjoy that super-advanced Halo 1 style gameplay. Look at the way is just beats default Reach in numbers!

But let's hear your justification.

I wait with abaited breath for the answer to this one.


Not everyone who purchased Reach purchased the DLC or Anniversary. That said, those numbers are actually really high when you take into consideration the ratio.
They should get better after Christmas as well, I cant wait to see the population jump from Black friday sales of xbox's, some that included a digital copy of Reach.

  • 12.19.2011 4:10 PM PDT

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Xenoblade <3

Reach is fine.

  • 12.19.2011 4:13 PM PDT
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Posted by: WulfwoodsSins

Posted by: Apocalypse

Posted by: WulfwoodsSins

You clearly don't have any understanding of gameplay.



Sure I do. Faster kills, map control, individual skill without the influence of randomness and outside factors such as AAs and bloom. One can understand good gameplay without being good at an individual game.

But I'm also a realist. I don't pine for 10 or 8 year old games when the latest instalment barely passed a year, and the first of the next 3 games being the primary focus of those who are in charge now.

It's a bitter pill to swallow, I know. But Reach is the way it is. 343 has even said any major overhaul to gameplay is impossible at this point because they are up to their eyeballs making Halo 4 everything Reach isn't. And if they made it like Halo 1 and 2, it wouldn't sell, save to those who don their nostalgia goggles.

Time to stop kicking the dead horse.


It goes further an deeper than that, which is what I'm referring to.

The two or three games play nothing a like. Halo CE did not play like 2 or 3/R, nor did 2 play like 3/R. H3 and HR have very similar styles of gameplay, how ever.

Reach's Anniversary playlists are nothing like the gameplay of CE.


I know Reach is the way it is and I know no major overhaul can be done, no where did I state it was going to be changed. Although ZB,NS and some other tweaks, especially with maps make the game play completely different, which is good. It plays like a Halo game.

Though they can not completely leave Reach in the dirt and hung up to dry, they have to change small things to try to make the game enjoyable. Which they already started, but more small things can be done, which they should be able to do. They need to try to get that old fan base, that left because of Reach back before Halo 4 is out. So it will be successful.


They've already said a few times that Halo 4 won't be like Reach and that it will be getting back to its roots. Which are Halo 1 and 2, along with adding some new things that won't completely -blam!- everything up. They've already said they could have added a bunch of other stuff that would make it sell even more but didn't, because it was not Halo.

  • 12.19.2011 4:15 PM PDT

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Posted by: Nephilim713
Reach is fine.
Agreed, it will more than suffice until 4 and if not there is always 3.

  • 12.19.2011 4:15 PM PDT


Posted by: Plunderfuq

Posted by: Nephilim713
Reach is fine.
Agreed, it will more than suffice until 4 and if not there is always 3.


dont bring up halo 3it is unplayable atm.

  • 12.19.2011 4:16 PM PDT
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I never quite understood Bungie's motives with this game. Reach done a great job pissing people off.

  • 12.19.2011 4:16 PM PDT