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Subject: Stupid Pistol - It's unrealistic, pistols don't dominate war

Posted by: Wiggie
Posted by: ManHunter5012
Do you see U.S. troops running around with pistols in their hands? No. I know Halo isn't like real life, but it still involves guns that shoot bullets. U.S. troops use assault rifles, like M4s or M16s, but they don't run around with a single pistol in their hands. A dumbass would do that. Pistols are not powerful enough to penetrate armor or hurt people as much. Plus, pistols usually don't have scopes on them. They also don't have a high rate of fire too. If a pistol faces an M4 1 on 1, the M4 would mow the stupid pistol person down instantly, because each of it's more powerful shots that are being shot at a higher rate of fire and FPS (feet per second). BTW, if you don't even know what an M4 is, then search it up and learn, because it's the primary gun U.S. troops use in war.


Pistols cant penetrate armor? I guess the Desert Eagle .50 is a fake gun? And I guess that DE .50 with scopes don't exist? The halo 1 pistol had explosive rounds also. You lose.




Yeah, but you still don't bring a Desert Eagle to an Assault Rifle fight...




[Edited on 5/9/2006]

  • 05.09.2006 4:17 PM PDT
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OMG!!! I am soooooooo gonna de-level on my first game!!! This is gonna rock!!

  • 05.09.2006 4:18 PM PDT

Posted by: Fatalorian
Apparently you think you know a lot about weapons and war. What you obviously don't know is that no matter what the gun, a bullet to the head kills someone. For some reason you think that an assualt rifle would beat a pistol hands down. It is much easier to manuever and wield a pistol than it is an assualt rifle and a headshot from either is enough to bring a man down. In a close-quarters situation, a pistol is much better, quicker to move around, not as bulky, makes less noise, and easier to reload.

And apparently you do not know what a Magnum is. I suggest you watch the history channel's Modern Marvels on the Magnum. The overpacked cartridge from a Magnum can cause more damage to a target than the 5.56mm round the M4 uses. And by the way, it's the M4A1 that is used in Iraq.

My point, unless the two "duelers" start at a very far distant with no cover, the pistol has an equal shot if not better at winning. If it is close in fighting, the pistol will surely have a better shot (no pun intended). Just think about it. If pistol's were really that bad, why would Police carry a pistol? They would carry an automatic weapon or a modified assualt rifle instead.

Pistols have their role, and the instant kill headshot with no shields for the MC's magnum is appropriate.




That's a bunch of crap. A pistol would not have an equal shot or better. If this was true, then there would be no purpose for assault rifles. Rifles are more stable firing platforms and generally accepted to be more accurate. And atleast as I am understood you can achieve a higher muzzle velocity with accuracy. Not every shot is a headshot, so accuracy and knockdown power DO count. Hence the widespread use of the assault rifle in Militaries across the globe.

If everything was equal (which its not), then our military would just be running around with pistols with generous clips if not simply to take advantage of the weight and bulk savings. Clearly this has not happened because...

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First of all, I agree with Murray tX- let's just rejoice in the glory that is/will be Halo 3! Save the -blam!-in' for later when you inevitably find the parts of the game bungie "screwed up" (completely ignoring whatever bungie may have done intentionally for the sake of the story and/or the Halo "universe"). Second of all, the M16A2 is still the PRIMARY rifle issued by the US Army- not the M4.

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Posted by: Wiggie[/quote]
Pistols cant penetrate armor? I guess the Desert Eagle .50 is a fake gun? And I guess that DE .50 with scopes don't exist? The halo 1 pistol had explosive rounds also. You lose.


I know what a Desert Eagle .50 cal is, but pistols have less gun powder, and their bullets are stubby, rifle shells are way bigger. In other words, they're more powerful.

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dude, no way the pistol was awesome. it was the gun you fell back on every time that you were about to get owned by attacking aliens. that was one of the better guns there was. The pistol in Halo 2 was did not approach the awesomeness of Halo:Combat Evolved. Anyway the pistol ruled and thats all there is to it.

  • 05.10.2006 7:13 PM PDT
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Totally agree. Rejoice that that the story continues.

  • 05.10.2006 7:15 PM PDT

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  • 05.10.2006 7:16 PM PDT

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