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Subject: Tactical Halo

Average Joe

UCLA - Aerospace Engineering

I've been craving a tactical Halo game. A game where you and your buds can actually feel like Spartans and not marines with shields. The weapons in this universe are great and have their own names why are they calling them. "Sniper Rifle", Assault Rifle, Battle Rifle?

I don't want a COD style game. I want a CS/RainbowSix Halo hybrid. Silencers, stealth, real special forces stuff. Spartans should be like DEVGRU on steroids. Wouldn't mind some crazy weapon and character customization.

Opinions?

  • 12.19.2011 2:18 PM PDT
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  • 12.19.2011 2:22 PM PDT

silencers and optical add-ons sound cool, but that is so COD. I want the game to go back to original matchmaking. Or come up with something new all on its own. P.S. I want the silent SMG back in another game.

  • 12.19.2011 2:27 PM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

If you wanted real Spartan like gameplay it would have to be done as a third person shooter to allow for more effective free-running and quicktime events or buttons combos for close range hand-to-hand/weapon combat. You'd increase movement speed, jump height and melee damage dramatically. You'd have to include a slow-mo mode that was infinite and you could toggle it in order to experience Spartan reflexes, and you'd have to have insane amounts of aim assist so simulate a Spartan's instinctual aiming. that would make you and your buds feel more like Spartans.

Now if you actually wanted a more tactical Halo game, you'd have to be Marines or ODSTs.

[Edited on 12.19.2011 2:28 PM PST]

  • 12.19.2011 2:28 PM PDT

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Posted by: dahuterschuter
If you wanted real Spartan like gameplay it would have to be done as a third person shooter to allow for more effective free-running and quicktime events or buttons combos for close range hand-to-hand/weapon combat. You'd increase movement speed, jump height and melee damage dramatically. You'd have to include a slow-mo mode that was infinite and you could toggle it in order to experience Spartan reflexes, and you'd have to have insane amounts of aim assist so simulate a Spartan's instinctual aiming. that would make you and your buds feel more like Spartans.

Now if you actually wanted a more tactical Halo game, you'd have to be Marines or ODSTs.


First part is more like Crysis and 2 where you experience as super solider... That is good idea. We need to experience true abilities of SPARTAN, not Marines.

  • 12.19.2011 2:32 PM PDT

It would make a good game if there was a game that had you fight the insurection.

  • 12.19.2011 2:34 PM PDT

Average Joe

UCLA - Aerospace Engineering

I'm sure they could find a balance.

  • 12.19.2011 2:38 PM PDT

and that would be?......

By the way third person is probably not gonna turn out well in a halo game.

[Edited on 12.19.2011 2:46 PM PST]

  • 12.19.2011 2:45 PM PDT


Posted by: Elder Bias

Posted by: dahuterschuter
If you wanted real Spartan like gameplay it would have to be done as a third person shooter to allow for more effective free-running and quicktime events or buttons combos for close range hand-to-hand/weapon combat. You'd increase movement speed, jump height and melee damage dramatically. You'd have to include a slow-mo mode that was infinite and you could toggle it in order to experience Spartan reflexes, and you'd have to have insane amounts of aim assist so simulate a Spartan's instinctual aiming. that would make you and your buds feel more like Spartans.

Now if you actually wanted a more tactical Halo game, you'd have to be Marines or ODSTs.


First part is more like Crysis and 2 where you experience as super solider... That is good idea. We need to experience true abilities of SPARTAN, not Marines.


Well, according to Josh Holmes "we really want to sell on the idea that the Chief is half a ton of tank and jet fighter."

--paraphrased, I think from the Halo 4 panel at Halo Fest.

  • 12.19.2011 3:28 PM PDT

Kinda sounds like F3AR

  • 12.19.2011 3:31 PM PDT


Posted by: Medicus Mike
Kinda sounds like F3AR



in what way does it sound like F3AR

  • 12.19.2011 3:35 PM PDT

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This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
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The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

Posted by: Ignited Prophecy
The weapons in this universe are great and have their own names why are they calling them. "Sniper Rifle", Assault Rifle, Battle Rifle?


Because nobody is going to be saying ''Pass me that 99D-S2 Anti-Matériel''. Just call it sniper rifle, it's easier for everyone. Same goes with the rest of the weapons. That's kind of stupid that you complain about that.


On the other hand, I agree with you. I've been dying for a Halo/Rainbow Six Vegas hybrid for years. In third person, shields only being able to take a couple of shots, and actual health probably on 2 on the hardest difficulty. A great tactical sense of flanking and special entry maneuvers with other Marines/ODST's/Spartans.

Pretty much a Halo, but with Rainbow Six Vegas game mechanics and customization, but with the Halo universe, weapons, enemies, settings, etc.

  • 12.19.2011 3:40 PM PDT

all i want are silenced versions of all weapons possible. That would be awesome. And it still be halo.

  • 12.19.2011 3:40 PM PDT


Posted by: Dounut520
all i want are silenced versions of all weapons possible. That would be awesome. And it still be halo.


i agree and mabye some holographic or acog scopes or something

  • 12.19.2011 3:46 PM PDT

maybe not scopes, unless they're like the halo sniper scope on a DMR, but otherwise I think thats too far. I am for stuff like new holo sights though. Like the one on the SMG in Halo 3 ODST.

  • 12.19.2011 3:48 PM PDT


Posted by: Dounut520
maybe not scopes, unless they're like the halo sniper scope on a DMR, but otherwise I think thats too far. I am for stuff like new holo sights though. Like the one on the SMG in Halo 3 ODST.

yeah thats sort of what i ment like on the DMR or SMG but on new weapons

[Edited on 12.19.2011 3:53 PM PST]

  • 12.19.2011 3:52 PM PDT

ok

  • 12.19.2011 3:53 PM PDT

Ever since the bullet sponges on legendary of Halo CE I have craved the same type of Halo gameplay.

Massive amounts of enemies you just destroy your way through various types of campaign scenarios.

For example missions based on:

1. Solo stealth

2. Massive amounts of enemies on screen without the bullet sponge disadvantages, you simply have to stick and move while picking enemies off with 1-3 shots maximum. You know real run and gun Halo rather than slow things down with hiding and bullet sponges.

3. Team based stealth and tactics, squad stuff for some missions.

4. Support style sniping and target take downs with territory captures. Image a firefight style mission similar to activating the turrets from a Reach mission combined with distance sniping while AI call outs are relevant tactical data in real time, similar to CE Truth & Reconciliation all occurring at once.

5. Weapons on legendary remain balanced, if an elite can take me down in 1-3 plasma shots when I kill that elite and use the same weapon I expect it to take down enemies with the same level of damage, not some magical bullet sponge affect where I now have to hit the target some 10 times over for the kill.

  • 12.19.2011 4:51 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Guys, just make a Halo version of Republic Commando.

  • 12.19.2011 4:57 PM PDT

"Halo! Its divine wind will rush through the stars, propelling all who are worthy along the path to salvation."

Spartans, you want super-soldiers with energy shields to go tactical? Might work, in night missions or in covert ops, but in an actual battlefield, a SPARTAN will do what they do best, be walking tanks. Tactical gameplay can be greatly be accomplished with ODSTs and Marines, a squad of them. But a squad of SPARTANs would work, but if you want a true SPARTAN experience, well, you would be asking for too much. Do you know what Spartans can really do?

  • 12.19.2011 4:58 PM PDT

Average Joe

UCLA - Aerospace Engineering

As a Spartan II you should have the most battlefield experience in any situation seeing as the average Spartan II during the Halo trilogy was around 40 years old (fact). That's over 20 years experience doing special operations.

They are the best and they're expensive so the UNSC has to give them whatever they want. That means I should be able to customize a great deal of my armor and weapons.

Stealthy insertions, REAL sniper missions, underwater, in space, in a damned volcano.

Don't give me that "but Spartans are to awesome" I want to play as a character that's awesome. I want to play with my buds who also have awesome characters. I've yet to see any Spartan act like they've been doing what they do for 25+ years.

Don't get me started on the III's Kat ran into a spotlight, Emile didn't even clear the area before talking smack. Got a sword in the back for it.

343 hire some ex SF guys.

[Edited on 12.19.2011 6:09 PM PST]

  • 12.19.2011 6:07 PM PDT

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Guys, just make a Halo version of Republic Commando.


That would be awesome...

  • 12.19.2011 6:17 PM PDT

Average Joe

UCLA - Aerospace Engineering


Posted by: Raptorx7

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Guys, just make a Halo version of Republic Commando.


That would be awesome...


i wish

  • 12.19.2011 6:18 PM PDT

"Halo! Its divine wind will rush through the stars, propelling all who are worthy along the path to salvation."

Well, a SPARTAN has the experience to do all that. But the team would have to be like Gray Team, or like the Headhunters.

  • 12.19.2011 6:33 PM PDT

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