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Subject: Bungie I hope this game is more like halo1 then halo2
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Posted by: Çäspër
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Posted by: Çäspër
Yeah, you guys think the "noob combo" was bad. Wait until the H1 pistol comes back.


AS LONG AS THERS NO AUTO AIM LIKE IN H2

Have you played Perfect Dark Zero? Halo:ce has a little. Halo 2 had more.That game has absolutely no auto aim. And it's alot less fun. If Halo 3 is like that, it will be based completely on how well you throw nades.

Halo 1 does take more skill, but Halo 2 is alot more fun.
EXACTLY! Well said Casper! one of the main reason's that Halo 2 had aim-assist, was because of Xbox Live. Can you imagine trying to kill someone without aim-assist if you were'nt host? It would be damn near impossible!

  • 07.09.2006 2:59 AM PDT

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Posted by: thelastcultist
the pistol is overpowered? h2 takes more skill? hmm...


I agree with him sooooo much. This video is the best. If you don't agree with that, well cry about it then....because that video is right. Halo 2 you don't even have to aim directly at their head after a noob combo, you just shoot near their head and they are dead. actually, ONE bullet of a BR kills someone when you shoot them in the head with no shields. So in fact, you don't even need to aim neccessarily....just as long as it gets dragged over there head at one point. Hopefully Halo 3 is its own game, BUT if it is to be like any of them, it should be like Halo 1!! Why do you think so many people were dissappointed with H2? It didn't have the same feel as Halo 1. And whether you people realize it or not....what makes a video game is the feel of it and how it plays. You can make the story really good (not saying H2's was good because it SUCKED ....until the end anyways) but if it doesn't play good it will not be a good game. Also, they focused way too much on multiplayer and graphics.... therefore the feel of halo 1 was lost and they lost a lot of fans. Halo's story was original. Halo2, you try to stop the ring from activating just like halo 1, and you find out that they are weapons all over again as the arbiter... it was the SAME story as halo 1, the only part of the story that was GOOD was the last 2 levels and the first 2. everything in between is HORRIBLE. I know people that would much rather play halo 1, they just play halo 2 because it is online. I guartantee if halo 1 was online, Halo 2 would not have 1 billion games or whatever. At least not by now. Anyways, thats what I, and all my friends think. Whether you agree or not...I DONT CARE.

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  • 07.09.2006 3:16 AM PDT
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I agree.

  • 07.09.2006 3:24 AM PDT
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Posted by: Wicked Evil One
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Why the hell did you revive a topic that died more than two months ago?

  • 07.09.2006 3:58 PM PDT

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Posted by: Dranei
Please dont listen to all the "noobs" saying the pistol was overpowered. Halo1 was a much better balanced game then halo2 will ever be. When it comes down to balanced gameplay dont ask the guys who run around with smg's and play team slayer MM all day. Ask the pro-players.

Right, running around with a 1 handed pistol and being able to kill everything moving in a few shots was balanced. It's no better then the noob combo in H2.
Except the Pistol required you to actually "aim". Don't want to "aim" much? Play with Half of Halo 2's weapons.

  • 07.09.2006 4:02 PM PDT
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The only weapon i feel was justified for the aim assist is the sniper. The old sniper was extremely difficult to use becuase of the little aim assist and small hitboxes. I feel the sniper could have about 1/5 of its current tracking removed. That combined with smaller hitboxes should make the sniper accesible to all players, but take skill to get profficient at.

  • 07.09.2006 4:05 PM PDT

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How is it that these treads keep on coming up after countless repeats?

  • 07.09.2006 4:06 PM PDT

Posted by: Armedsavage01
How is it that these treads keep on coming up after countless repeats?

Because many people feel this way, if it wasn't staggeringly obvious.

  • 07.09.2006 4:07 PM PDT
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Posted by: Spandexman1337
And from the looks of it, it will be.

Please dont listen to all the "noobs" saying the pistol was overpowered. Halo1 was a much better balanced game then halo2 will ever be. When it comes down to balanced gameplay dont ask the guys who run around with smg's and play team slayer MM all day. Ask the pro-players.

Please do not screw this last game up. Halo1 FTW!

If you want H3 to be so much like H1, just go play H1.

I for one don't want something that I've already played (meaning H1). Yes I want H3 to be balanced and such, but I don't want the same freaking weapons! Bungie just might as well re-release H1 and then you guys will be happy.

  • 07.09.2006 4:10 PM PDT
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This is what i want.

Halo 1's campaign replay value and scale. Halo 2's online interface with Halo 1's balance and hitboxes.

But what i truly think we will get is a hybrid of both that bridges the meduim between them.

  • 07.09.2006 4:17 PM PDT
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That sounds great to me!

  • 07.09.2006 4:19 PM PDT

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I could only see some things from Halo 1 being included into Halo 3 like the Halo 1 plasma pistol because it took more skill useing it back then because it couldn't hone on a player as much as it does in Halo 2. The first person mode for the side seat in any vehicle would be cool, the night vision scope and flash light be added to multi player because it would come in hand in night battles,and the AR of course and some of the old maps and thats it.

  • 07.09.2006 4:21 PM PDT
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Hope that Halo 3 will be better than Halo and Halo 2 combined.

And expecting the worst, what if auto-aim is still in Halo 3?

  • 07.09.2006 4:24 PM PDT
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Posted by: Seven7h
Hope that Halo 3 will be better than Halo and Halo 2 combined.

And expecting the worst, what if auto-aim is still in Halo 3?
Then the game will be fun. Try playing on Xbox Live without aim-assist If you weren't host, like playing perfect dark zero on live. the game ceases to be fun, because your accuracy would chronically be reduced, and only the host would get kills.

[Edited on 7/9/2006]

  • 07.09.2006 4:52 PM PDT
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The pistol in Halo: CE required skill to use. No professional gamer can achieve 3 shot kills every single time, so no casual gamer will be able to either. The sniper can kill in one shot, is THAT unbalanced? What about the rocket launcher? Oh, you say that it is unbalanced because everyone has one? How does that even make sense? Everyone has one, so everyone has a chance to fight with it...right? Everyone can kill anyone, unlike in Halo 2 where you spawn with a SMG and get spawn camped by a sniper or a BR/PP whore.

The PP/BR combo in Halo 2 requires no skill to use. End of story. There is no argument.

Halo 3 would be FINE with a Halo CE style pistol. Noobs, like 99% of the people on this forum, would suck with it, so they would be matchmade with other noobs, and they would use the other weapons in the game and have fun. Perfect. Now, good people, like myself, would use the pistol and play with other good people and have fun also.

There. Matchmaking being used to do what it is designed to do: Separate the noobs from the good players. Separate Bungie.net users from the intelligent people.

  • 07.09.2006 8:53 PM PDT
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oh so you can get you pistol back?

cry me a river.... buddy, you gotta live for now not the past, the halo 1 pistol is gone, you can't be cheap in multiplayer anymore with it so now you suck.

besides if halo 3 is like halo 1, why don't you just play halo 1?

  • 07.09.2006 8:56 PM PDT
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Posted by: Vitamin Zawaz
I like Halo 1 better than Halo 2. Halo 2 didn't even feel like a sequel. I hope Halo 3 shares at least SOME similarities to Halo 1...
this is exactly why they hire testers.

  • 07.09.2006 9:27 PM PDT
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Don't listen to this man's pistol raving madness. It was the most rediculosly unblanced weapon I have ever heard of in my life. Don't bring it back.

  • 07.09.2006 9:29 PM PDT
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Basically, remove every weapon execpt the pistol. 'Cause that's all anyone would use.

  • 07.09.2006 9:56 PM PDT
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Posted by: Spandexman1337
And from the looks of it, it will be.

Please dont listen to all the "noobs" saying the pistol was overpowered. Halo1 was a much better balanced game then halo2 will ever be. When it comes down to balanced gameplay dont ask the guys who run around with smg's and play team slayer MM all day. Ask the pro-players.

Please do not screw this last game up. Halo1 FTW!


Well-said! I am fed up with this POS game! BTW, why is CoD3 able to come out this fall (less than a year after CoD2's release), and Halo 3 is taking longer?

  • 07.09.2006 10:02 PM PDT

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Posted by: ZrowGz
Don't listen to this man's pistol raving madness. It was the most rediculosly unblanced weapon I have ever heard of in my life. Don't bring it back.


i agree, in Halo 1 all you need ed was a pistol and you would own!

A friend of mine who is not that good in halo 2 always owns me with the pistol in Halo 1!

The Halo 1 pistol is and always will be unbalanced!

  • 07.09.2006 10:12 PM PDT
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Posted by: Seven7h
The only thing that needs to be removed is the auto-aim. Why does a game like Halo even need auto-aim?


Halo 1 had autoaim, Halo 2 had autoaim. The game wouldn't be fun without it, especially over the internet. No auto-aim + the slightest lag over any amount of distance = 0 kills.

[Edited on 7/9/2006]

  • 07.09.2006 10:16 PM PDT
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Here's my take on things

1. Online games NEED a decent amount of auto-aim, but not quite as much as h2. I guess the best way to fix this would be to have the game change the amount of auto-aim depending on whether your were playing on lan or over the internet.

2.H1 pistol was helped balance h1. I do think that is true, however the fact that it was a pistol was a problem. The h3 BR type gun should just have a lot of power and range like the h1 psitol did, then it would make sense. Plus maps like heh could come back! (honestly, who hated heh)

3.DW is cool. Say what you want, but it did add variety. Just make the guns stronger so they can match the new powerful BR. H2's nerfed shotty and single wields wouldnt' cut it.

4.More powerups, I miss maps like CO and warlock that had lots of P-ups. They kept things ineresting, plus if they do it like h2, you can still turn them off, h2 barely has enough to care about, plus the camo sucks!

5.Bring back the h1 timing system for guns and powerups, it was alot more fair, especially when good players are going at it, which is when it really matters, if you aren't very experienced, it wont' make a differnece which system is used.

  • 07.09.2006 10:30 PM PDT
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Posted by: Spandexman1337
When it comes down to balanced gameplay dont ask the guys who run around with smg's and play team slayer MM all day. Ask the pro-players.

Please do not screw this last game up. Halo1 FTW!


whats wrong with running around with smgs in team slayer? better then camping with sword.
also.... by pro-players do u mean MLG players??? if you do... god help us all.

also.... halo 2 wasnt screwed up. it was better then halo 1 even tho i like halo 1 better.( kinda ironic) halo 2 had alot more gameplay elements that made it better. but just because of the lenght of the single player in halo ce thats why i enjoyed it so much.

  • 07.09.2006 10:36 PM PDT

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