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Subject: Bungie I hope this game is more like halo1 then halo2

(10:19:49 PM) Scruss: oh and pezza, i saw what you did to that cat
(10:20:17 PM) Pezza: You were the one with the video camera breathing heavily. Of course you saw.

I agree with the Topic poster, I hope for the most part it is more like the first one.

  • 07.09.2006 10:38 PM PDT
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Well-said! I am fed up with this POS game! BTW, why is CoD3 able to come out this fall (less than a year after CoD2's release), and Halo 3 is taking longer?

Because COD is made by the biggest game manufacturer in the world ea. they work their employees to death creating projects that few on the staff are even interested in, just to turn a profit every year on rehashed sequels. Bungie is a smaller staff or people who actually enjoy building the halo 3. Not only building it, but the franchise as a whole. Despite the whole "killer app" thing, they really do take pride in their work and want to make h3 the best game they can, h2 got rushed, why do the same thing again?

  • 07.09.2006 10:43 PM PDT
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In light of this topic (and that video posted) I would like to point out a few things.

Halo 2 does have some nasty auto "assist". More so then Halo 1, and it is blantantly obvious as every once in awhile you will be shooting one target in Halo 2 and when another runs past your screen it will sometimes aim towards that target.

But that video is very biased. Note the "Sweep Sniping" section. In Halo 1 it was all one scene, in Halo 2 they jumped from scene to scene showing the lucky shots. I have just tried this on my Xbox, and I am pretty confident it is a very rare event.

But this massive auta "assist" boost is there for a reason. (this has been stated before) In the average XBL game you face a substantial amount of lag. People are not always where they appear on your screen (hence sometimes the shots that look to be head are indeed just body shots). This is why auto aim is in the game, to make it so thoes people that may be a few inches off to the left actualy get hit when you point the gun at them. If you don't believe me, load up Halo 1 go on Xbox Connect. Its a program that links multiple Xbox togeather to allow for simulated online play. Have fun aiming that pistol in that mess. EDIT: Another test you can do is shoot your teammates on Xbox Live. Try to kill them... its hard isn't it?

Of course sometimes lag is PERFECT in a game resulting in the gross display of auto "assist" seen in that video. They where obviously playing on the same XBOX (see split screen) so the auto "assist" was able to show how powerful it really is. Don't believe me? Make a match on XBOX Live with a buddy and try thoes tests out. You will be surprised how they don't work as well (if at all).

All in all you can't really measure what game takes more "skill". Halo 1 had a sickening pistol. I know, I've used it. But it can be beat if you are "SKILLED" enough. Halo 2 has a sickening Plasma Pistol/Battle Rifle combo, I know, I've used it. But this can be thwarted if you are "SKILLED" enough. The only true way to measure how much "skill" you have is not to play rank and "Pwn newbs with das uber sword/rockets/plasma pistol, battlerifle combo" or "boinking your buddies in the head In Halo 1 with the pistol" but instead to show you don't need thoes things to win. That my friends is true skill, show your above that and you will have acomplished being "skilled".

Play what game you like to play and not the game you think makes you more "skilled". Because if your whole goal is to be the most "skilled" you will be sorely dissapointed. There is ALWAYS someone better then you, and you will ALWAYS get beat by people who you think are worse then you. This is life, its called the HUMAN ELEMENT. Your never the same twice.

[Edited on 7/9/2006]

  • 07.09.2006 10:58 PM PDT
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Awe snap beeotch, yeah.

Crap slang aside, Nagavin is right. Stop being whiney -blam!-es and just enjoy the damn games. Everyone exploits some strength or weakness in order to gain the edge in battle. If you don't, someone else will and you will find yourself staring once again at your respawn timer.

Bungie is going to do what THEY think is best. They are not going to browse the forums, see that people love the old pistol, and bring it back the same way because all the people who can't handle it's absence from Halo 2 said so.

If you think you can do better, then make your own damn game. Then you can try to balance it with 10 thousand screaming idiots posting on your forums about how you're doing it all wrong. Until then, shut up or quit playing. If you don't like it, then stop. Plain and simple. No one has forced you to play Halo or Halo 2. Stick to Candyland if you whiney bastards can't handle it.

Halo 3 will be exactly the way it needs to be. The way Bungie wants it to be. It won't be Halo. It won't be Halo 2. It will be an evolution based on their experience with making and playing both games. Not a game thrown together and altered to fit the fancy of the whining masses. Got a problem? Then don't spend your money on Halo 3, and spend your XBox Live time somewhere else. Bungie won't care. They aren't going to cry because there's one less jackass in Matchmaking.

[Edited on 7/9/2006]

  • 07.09.2006 11:33 PM PDT
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Posted by: sycomunkee
I hope this game is more like Halo 3 than Halo 2 or Halo CE
My thoughts exactly.

  • 07.09.2006 11:43 PM PDT
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All in all you can't really measure what game takes more "skill". Halo 1 had a sickening pistol. I know, I've used it. But it can be beat if you are "SKILLED" enough. Halo 2 has a sickening Plasma Pistol/Battle Rifle combo, I know, I've used it. But this can be thwarted if you are "SKILLED" enough. The only true way to measure how much "skill" you have is not to play rank and "Pwn newbs with das uber sword/rockets/plasma pistol, battlerifle combo" or "boinking your buddies in the head In Halo 1 with the pistol" but instead to show you don't need thoes things to win. That my friends is true skill, show your above that and you will have acomplished being "skilled".

Play what game you like to play and not the game you think makes you more "skilled". Because if your whole goal is to be the most "skilled" you will be sorely dissapointed. There is ALWAYS someone better then you, and you will ALWAYS get beat by people who you think are worse then you. This is life, its called the HUMAN ELEMENT. Your never the same twice.


Couldn't have said it better.

  • 07.09.2006 11:59 PM PDT
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How about this:
Bungie should add in the ability to choose between h1, h2 and h3 weapons, autoaim is serverside-controlled.

  • 07.10.2006 1:15 AM PDT

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Posted by: Spandexman1337
And from the looks of it, it will be.

Please dont listen to all the "noobs" saying the pistol was overpowered. Halo1 was a much better balanced game then halo2 will ever be. When it comes down to balanced gameplay dont ask the guys who run around with smg's and play team slayer MM all day. Ask the pro-players.

Please do not screw this last game up. Halo1 FTW!


Actually this would be on choice of different likes and dislikes. Some people actually maybe understand how Halo 2 is a sequel and might even like Halo 2 better then the original, or maybe even equally. So when Halo 3 comes out there could be half the percentage of the world that likes it because it repersents more of Halo 1 the Halo 2 but the other half could not like it because it has to much Halo 1. I'll leave it with my info. Though I'm not quirreling with your choice. I'm just saying a fact.

  • 07.10.2006 1:15 AM PDT

I've said it before and I'll say it again - aim-assistance does NOTHING to help alleviate the problems of playing online, it does NOTHING to combat the effects of lag or latency. All it is there for (beyond the minimum necessary for console controls) is to flatter players and make it easier to get kills.

  • 07.10.2006 1:25 AM PDT
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stupid man it should be both have some halo 2 and halo 1 in it witch making it halo 3 and more improvements i dont want it to be more than halo 1 i want it to have both you idiot stupid topic

  • 07.10.2006 1:27 AM PDT
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Posted by: Spandexman1337
And from the looks of it, it will be.

Please dont listen to all the "noobs" saying the pistol was overpowered. Halo1 was a much better balanced game then halo2 will ever be. When it comes down to balanced gameplay dont ask the guys who run around with smg's and play team slayer MM all day. Ask the pro-players.

Please do not screw this last game up. Halo1 FTW!
Not another one of you guys! No one in there right mind would want Halo 3 to be like halo: CE OR Halo 2. Why in god's name would you want Bungie to reproduce Halo: CE? Halo 3 shouldn't be anything like Halo: CE. A sane person would want Halo 3 to be like...... Well..... Halo 3! OMG! What a concept! You people bore me. The Halo: CE pistol was NOT overpowered, it was, infact, underpowered.

  • 07.10.2006 1:28 AM PDT
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Posted by: T3mpest

Well-said! I am fed up with this POS game! BTW, why is CoD3 able to come out this fall (less than a year after CoD2's release), and Halo 3 is taking longer?

Because COD is made by the biggest game manufacturer in the world ea. they work their employees to death creating projects that few on the staff are even interested in, just to turn a profit every year on rehashed sequels. Bungie is a smaller staff or people who actually enjoy building the halo 3. Not only building it, but the franchise as a whole. Despite the whole "killer app" thing, they really do take pride in their work and want to make h3 the best game they can, h2 got rushed, why do the same thing again?


1. COD isnt published by EA, it is published by Activision. I believe you are thinking of Medal Of Honor or Battefield series.

2. COD 2 and COD 3 are made by different developers. COD 2 was made by infinity ward. COD 3 is being made by Treyarch. Treyarch is an average game dev company. They made the COD games for current gen consoles. I hope you didnt mean Infinity Ward doesnt enjoy building their COD series. The founders of Infinity Ward actually created one of the best WWII games Medal of honor frontline for EA. The leading game devs at the time didnt like where EA was going with the Medal Of Honor series so they quit and formed their own company Infinity Ward. They then created Call of Duty and the rest is history.


Anyways. I agree Bungie should take as long as they need for this game. I want everything to amaze me.

  • 07.10.2006 2:34 AM PDT
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Posted by: RhythmKiller
I've said it before and I'll say it again - aim-assistance does NOTHING to help alleviate the problems of playing online, it does NOTHING to combat the effects of lag or latency. All it is there for (beyond the minimum necessary for console controls) is to flatter players and make it easier to get kills.


Exactly

  • 07.10.2006 2:36 AM PDT
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i agree, halo 2 had a lot of useless weapons. brute plasma rifle, needler (but that's always been useless), carbine (copy of the freakin BR), the shotgun was terrible, the plasma pistol was only good for combos (in halo 1 you could actually kill someone with it), the magnum blew, and the rocket launcher goes soooooooooooo slooooooooooooow. You just sidestep or jump and keep shooting. I do think sniping was much better in halo 2 though.

  • 07.10.2006 2:55 AM PDT
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The halo1 pistol was so baldy overpowered, I mean when you can counter a sniper cross level with a friggin pistol you know something is wrong. All the people that support it just want another power weapon to whore,if the military had pistols like that then they wouldnt have rifles.
If anything that should be back from H1 it should be the AR, and the shotgun(yes there is a diffrence),

  • 07.10.2006 3:00 AM PDT
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If it has to be closer to one, then it's ALL about CE

  • 07.10.2006 3:07 AM PDT

Everyone who is saying 'it should be more like Halo 3' is being dumb. It will be exactly like Halo 3.

No matter what Halo 3 is like, it can only logically be closer to Halo 1 or Halo 2.

And with that in mind, I would hope it is closer to Halo 1.

  • 07.10.2006 3:55 AM PDT

Gauss Cannon Ownage

I will, however, confirm that the Assault Rifle fires projectiles. At the moment, at least. We might just end up turning it into a melee-only weapon.

That was a joke.

And who the Hell gave you the authority to claim that you are better than thousands?! The Halo1 pistol was unbelivibly overpowered... When you have a pistol that is far more accurate at long distance and kills faster than the current rifle(while shoots in three shot bursts so its like 9 bullets) how can you even claim it is not over powered and then have the nerve to say that everyone that dosn't agree with you is a noob... Pathetic...

  • 07.10.2006 5:04 AM PDT

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And who the Hell gave you the authority to claim that you are better than thousands?! The Halo1 pistol was unbelivibly overpowered... When you have a pistol that is far more accurate at long distance and kills faster than the current rifle(while shoots in three shot bursts so its like 9 bullets) how can you even claim it is not over powered and then have the nerve to say that everyone that dosn't agree with you is a noob... Pathetic...

Because it DOESN'T MATTER that it is a pistol, although it was actually the only futuristic human weapon in the game. It was not unbelievably overpowered, it is beaten at long range by the sniper, mid range by the rocket, and close range by the shotgun. People forget a lot about that game. They forget that all the weapons were longer range and more powerful. They forget there was less auto-aim. They forget that movement speed and jumping was faster. They forget that 3-shot kills are not a common occurence unless playing against people who are rubbish. I am not saying the pistol should return but I'm bored of listening to people who are uninformed, have short memories, or just plain lie about stuff.

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Posted by: HaloGunner117
And who the Hell gave you the authority to claim that you are better than thousands?! The Halo1 pistol was unbelivibly overpowered...


erm... without sounding too retaliatory - who gave you the authority?

  • 07.10.2006 5:34 AM PDT
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Why the hell do you think they removed the uber pistol in the first place? Every XBL game will be dominated by the pistol if they put it there

I want Halo 3 to be Halo 3, not similar to Halo CE, and not similar to Halo 2, just Halo 3

  • 07.10.2006 6:08 AM PDT

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