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Subject: No Dual Wielding in Halo 3
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dual weilding is the worst thing to ever be put into a game. ever. it is mindless newb charging. just look at rumble pit, honestly.

  • 05.09.2006 7:24 PM PDT
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I don't see why everyone wants to have Halo 1 with a new storyline and stuff.

This is new, they get rid of the old. If it was too powerful in the first one (Pistol), they get rid of it.

Dual Wielding is fine. I use it, I don't use it.

This is what makes me mad. A small amount of people go "Oh my god. The pistol is gone! This game sucks!"

Get used to new things.

Anyway, the video didn't show anything besides Master Chief holding the Assault rifle. If they bring it back, that's good, but I still rather dual wield two SMGs. One to kill the small flood, and the other to kill big flood.

  • 05.09.2006 7:25 PM PDT
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the pistol took skill, and it was actually interesting to have a shootout from almost ANYWHERE on the map. there is nothing fun about dual weilding. it is mindless newb charging and camping.

halo2's combat is too close range orientated. its not fun to play. the battle rifle cant hit anything far away, and the instant hit shots make the fights boring.

some other things i'd like to address

tracking rockets = bad idea.
nades= explode too fast and too easy to hit people. larger radius and slightly longer fuse = the way to go.
offense/defense bases = boring. people camping in a building is boring.

include halo1's offense/defense system. classic assault with no bomb arm time. nading weapons, timing weapons etc etc,

  • 05.09.2006 7:32 PM PDT
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Just because the AR is back doesn't mean that duals are gone. They can both exist. Think of it this way, the SMG is an Uzi and the AR is an M16 they are different guns and can coexist.

  • 05.09.2006 7:35 PM PDT

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

Posted by: Commander Bob
Er... Dual Wielding wasn't a "mistake." And if you believe that it was, fine. But don't try to pass that off as fact. Some people like it, some don't. Nobody's an idiot because they like to use two weapons.

I can garantee that there will be Dual Wielding in Halo 3.


For someone who hates made up facts your last statement didnt really prove your point.

  • 05.09.2006 7:38 PM PDT
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wow if u cant take a dual combo down u must rlly suck its not that hard just nade then bust out ur SMG u suk if u think whoever has a dual is invincible plenty of things can take a dual down a BR those things frikken pwn so dont be like "oh ya they need to take duals out cause they r nooby weps for spawn killing" all that proves is that ur such a nub u cant take opne down and that wasnt an AR that was a BR so dont start rumors the new BR just looks like a FAMAS kind of i promise u there will be no AR in the new halo

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  • 05.09.2006 7:39 PM PDT
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Duel weilding also negated the fact that the MC was this awesome amazing "hand to hand" combat fighter.... duel weilding obviously took this away and basically left you to mele people from behind only.... i can only remember the days of Halo : Combat Evolved where the close range fights actually turned into to hand to hand combat(and obviously made the gameplay flow alot smoother and made the FACE FACE combat even more intense.. i missed this a tremendous amount in Halo 2.( BTW... Special thanks to Bungie for calling Halo: Combat Evolved and not Halo 1. Its obvious the two games had no gameplay in common and thats why i think its wrong to call it Halo 1.

I am downloading the Trailer in HD now as we speak. the only speculation i have at this moment was the picture i saw in the update the showed the MC holding what looked like to be the "Original" Assault rifle From Halo: Combat Evolved. if thats the case, and well see these weapons again im all about Halo 3. if that changes and the game ends up being more like Halo 2, i will probably not be a fan of Halo 3. Its no secret im not a big fan of Halo 2 and i wont come in here and say how great i think the game is.(personally i hated it and i never denied that) this does not make me any less of a halo fan. ill always be here to show my support for the objectives of Bungie and will always appreciate what they have to do to Make Money as a business. alot of people dont realize that thats the point of running a company and thats to make money... wheather or not i like the 3rd game, i still appreciate what Bungie has do to make sure that they make the Money that they ant... and by all means they are entitled to that ano NOONE can deny this to any business. Once again bungie, thanks for all you've done in the past wheather or not i've like it .. i still appreciate what you guys do. Peace out. And i give you guys the utmost rspect that i can. Thanks for doing anything and everything that you guys are doing and i Hope to see alot more Halo :Combat evolved fans on live playing Halo 3. You guys own.

BTW... you need to add an 8th step to your plan, and thats to take over MS, cause we all know that MS is the world Dominator and thats gonna hard to surpass. BTW- dont make it an 8th step in your plan.. you to call it like -1 or something.. cause adding 8 would just simply Ruin you Lucky 7. i hope you have enjoyed my post. its always a pleasure.

But the real reason i came in here was to ask my question which is very very very impoertant.. even more than Halo 3.

ARE YOU GUYS PINK FLOYD FANS? I need to know.

  • 05.09.2006 7:42 PM PDT
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Posted by: c0mfor7a31y_Num3
Duel weilding also negated the fact that the MC was this awesome amazing "hand to hand" combat fighter.... duel weilding obviously took this away and basically left you to mele people from behind only.... i can only remember the days of Halo : Combat Evolved where the close range fights actually turned into to hand to hand combat(and obviously made the gameplay flow alot smoother and made the FACE FACE combat even more intense.. i missed this a tremendous amount in Halo 2.( BTW... Special thanks to Bungie for calling Halo: Combat Evolved and not Halo 1. Its obvious the two games had no gameplay in common and thats why i think its wrong to call it Halo 1.

I am downloading the Trailer in HD now as we speak. the only speculation i have at this moment was the picture i saw in the update the showed the MC holding what looked like to be the "Original" Assault rifle From Halo: Combat Evolved. if thats the case, and well see these weapons again im all about Halo 3. if that changes and the game ends up being more like Halo 2, i will probably not be a fan of Halo 3. Its no secret im not a big fan of Halo 2 and i wont come in here and say how great i think the game is.(personally i hated it and i never denied that) this does not make me any less of a halo fan. ill always be here to show my support for the objectives of Bungie and will always appreciate what they have to do to Make Money as a business. alot of people dont realize that thats the point of running a company and thats to make money... wheather or not i like the 3rd game, i still appreciate what Bungie has do to make sure that they make the Money that they ant... and by all means they are entitled to that ano NOONE can deny this to any business. Once again bungie, thanks for all you've done in the past wheather or not i've like it .. i still appreciate what you guys do. Peace out. And i give you guys the utmost rspect that i can. Thanks for doing anything and everything that you guys are doing and i Hope to see alot more Halo :Combat evolved fans on live playing Halo 3. You guys own.

BTW... you need to add an 8th step to your plan, and thats to take over MS, cause we all know that MS is the world Dominator and thats gonna hard to surpass. BTW- dont make it an 8th step in your plan.. you to call it like -1 or something.. cause adding 8 would just simply Ruin you Lucky 7. i hope you have enjoyed my post. its always a pleasure.

But the real reason i came in here was to ask my question which is very very very impoertant.. even more than Halo 3.

ARE YOU GUYS PINK FLOYD FANS? I need to know.


r u kidding me halo 2 is so much H2H combat in it more than Halo: combat evolved u guys seriously need to play more

  • 05.09.2006 7:45 PM PDT

Posted by: Nightmare89
After seeing that awesome trailer and watching the Master Cheif wield his Assault Rifle (at least it looked like that).

I could only think, did they finally eliminate Dual Wielding???

Now if people didn't know this already, dual wielding was just an excuse to dumb down the weapons we grown to love from Halo1 so they could be Dual-Wieldable.

Dual Wielding also caused a lot of issues over xbox live. By making the game very un-balanced as it was almost impossible to take down someone with a dual wield with your single wield weapon.

Hopefully Bungie will realize their mistake of adding dual wielding and make every weapon single wield again. This way every weapon has its own unique use and no weapon becomes useless if its not dual wielded like in Halo 2. Therefore also creating a more fun / balanced out multiplayer game environment.










OMFG, its a TRAILER!!!!!!! Did you see dual wields in halo2's annoucment trailer? They havent even mentioned anything about it. That AR looking gun will propally be our weapon of choice like the BR. How is it hard to kill a dual wielder with a single gun?

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  • 05.09.2006 7:46 PM PDT
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thank u ghetto everyone is all like oh its the best wepon they should take it out its unfair

  • 05.09.2006 7:50 PM PDT
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here's another thing. the lunge on melees makes every close range fight a -blam!- whap fest. once you get so close the ONLY thing to do is punch. and since you lunge their nothing after it. someone almost always dies.

it doesnt matter if you can kill a dual weilder or not up close. the fact is its not fun gameplay. its a newb charge.. the responses in this thread so far is really disappointing

  • 05.09.2006 7:53 PM PDT

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thank u ghetto everyone is all like oh its the best wepon they should take it out its unfair

huh?

  • 05.09.2006 7:53 PM PDT
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Dual wielding was awesome, do you think they'd eliminate it because some people are complaining? Get an IQ please.

  • 05.09.2006 7:54 PM PDT
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I think the problem is the weapons were just toned down too much. duel weilding is not the problem.(although for a masterfull Hand to Hand Combat Chief, dont you think that the duel weilding negated this alittle? they weekened the mele(which ruined the "hand to hand combat) and this made no sense to NOT duel weild. i do appreciate your opinion.. but lets remember while we postin here that thats all we have to say is our opinion. and as long as we dont direct things at specific individuals, i think we'll all just get along fine. I enjoy the speculation and have alot of really cool banter going back and fourth between users.

aand ghetto, please dont direct comments like that at the end of your post.... all its gonna do is start trouble and ruin the "speculation" that the fans have. Please speculate all you want, i enjoyed your speculation until i read the last sentence.... peace out everyone ill be back.. but for now... i need to whatch the The Halo 3 trailer in HIGH DEFFINITION. and after i do.. im sure ill be back with more speculation as well. Peace.

and to the peeps who are flaming me already, geez man.. this is only my opinion and thats all it is.. sometimes its just too hard to come here and post something for Bungie to see... cause thats why i post. i want bungie know how i feel... i am only and individual, but i am speaking for alot of Halo: Combaat Evolved Fans.... and if you've never played Halo: Combat Evolved "ONLINE" on XBOXCONNECT>COM... then maybe you should give it a shot and you'll understand my "speculation".. or you will think the game sux ass and thats okay as well....Peace

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  • 05.09.2006 7:54 PM PDT
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agreed it just sounds to me like someone sux at halo 2 and is trying to make excuses. Dude its so easy to take out a dual wielder with almost anysingle wield weapon.

  • 05.09.2006 7:55 PM PDT

Asking about dual-wielding in Halo 3 is okay.

Saying you dislike dual-wielding is okay.

Telling someone they are an idiot or noob because they believe dual-wielding has a purpose, is not okay.

Also, do not bump your own thread.

  • 05.09.2006 7:56 PM PDT
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Think about it. In real life if someone pulled out two guns and the other guy pulled out one. Who would have better accuracy and draw time. Um yes, One 45 please. Thank you.

  • 05.09.2006 7:57 PM PDT

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