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Subject: The Cheif's Gauntlets...what if it isnt the cheif?
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i forgot about them

  • 05.11.2006 2:38 PM PDT
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Fred or Will got the new gloves but I'm leaning more on Fred.

  • 05.11.2006 2:42 PM PDT
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I think it may be another spartan because of the Assault Rifle. I mean why would they not have it in Halo 2 and then all of a sudden bring it back in Halo 3?

  • 05.11.2006 2:48 PM PDT
Subject: The Cheif's Gauntlets...whats up with them?
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Posted by: x Lord Revan x
* Or, It The cheif gets some upgrades...it does look like he got off the ship, so maybe he made contact with some other humans.


Well yeah, do you expect Halo 3 to start with that scene in the announcment trailer?

No I don't myself. Chief probably had small contact with humans on Earth. The cov. prolly killed everyone, but couldn't kill the chief. He probably has new armor because bungie didn't say yes or no to the new armor.

  • 05.11.2006 3:09 PM PDT

It is the Chief, it's in the front page artical.

the Chief (no it's not Linda, or Kelly…) battered Mjolnir armor.

  • 05.11.2006 4:51 PM PDT
Subject: The Cheif's Gauntlets...what if it isnt the cheif?
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I've said this a million times; its a redesign. He is the most detailed MC ever made hence why his armor may look a bit different.

  • 05.11.2006 4:52 PM PDT
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But it can't be Kelly, Linda....., Bungie gave us that in their update. Thx Bungie! Soooo is it Fred, or Will? Or am I going crazy over the hidden messages, I can't realy tell you now?


Ok bungie said it wasn't Kelly or Linda ( they typed it like this: There wasn't much to show at the moment, since we're keeping things under warps for now, but CJ clued everyone in on the 3-mile wide Forerunner artifact, Cortana's state of mind and the Chief (no it's not Linda, or Kelly…) battered Mjolnir armor. ) , I like the whole dot,dot,dot at the end. Is it Fred or Will? Sneaky, sneaky Bungie, you should be a ninja Bungie. What is going on?

[Edited on 5/11/2006]

  • 05.11.2006 4:59 PM PDT
Subject: The Cheif's Gauntlets...whats up with them?

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Posted by: Wyffel
Well yeah, do you expect Halo 3 to start with that scene in the announcment trailer?


I don't expect this teaser to EVER appear in the final halo 3 product (possibly the segment at the end with the final explosion though). Just like the Halo 2 trailer/gameplay released at E3, almost none of those cinematics ever appeared in Halo 2. Like that situation at the end with the MC vs all the elites with the energy swords...I was hoping to find myself in that situation in the actual game but to my disappointment, that would-be battle was never included :-(

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  • 05.11.2006 6:18 PM PDT
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Just to let u guys know im from the maw... but anyways, u guys are thnking that it might be will or fred because of the boots. In first strike when the cheif and johnson and the servivors comendeer the covie flagship they head stratigh for reach only that its been destroyed the others have already received there upgrades. Linda is in a Cryo Chamber since she was hit with plasma durring the operation on the space station in the fall of reach. the MC meats up with everyone where he gives the cheif and Optics enhancement. Kelly since she is the sniper is also given this. Linda receives a special type of new leg armor to alow her to run faster, will and fred are given new gloves for gripping and also a better sheild gererator. This is what they get. just to let u guys know. and halo will not have pretty much any of that trailer video in the game, they said it at the E3 press confrence that this is strictly a teaser and thtat most of this is to show off the new engine as well as give some hints as to what is going on.

  • 05.11.2006 6:29 PM PDT
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There wasn't much to show at the moment, since we're keeping things under warps for now, but CJ clued everyone in on the 3-mile wide Forerunner artifact, Cortana's state of mind and the Chief (no it's not Linda, or Kelly…) battered Mjolnir armor.

End of discussion...?

  • 05.11.2006 8:13 PM PDT
Subject: The Cheif's Gauntlets...what if it isnt the cheif?

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Although, the gloves may indicate that somehow he recieved an upgrade, it isnt the master cheif, or Bungie just wanted to redesign him for fun. Most likely the latter.


yeah about that....if you look at the Spartans fingers in Halo 2....theyre not the greatest. Bungie probly did as best the could with them without wasting too much time cuz well, theyre just fingers, and decided that workign on the other parts of the model was more important. However, this time around, they arent as rushed as they were when making Halo 2. They now have time to go in and make this game look, play, and feel as best as they can get it. Plus, with the 360 graphics power....there had better be some upgrades as far as im concerned...lol

  • 05.11.2006 8:28 PM PDT
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Its simple, in Halo 2 Master Chief had some +350 armor gloves... Ofcourse, this didnt match with his other +500 armor set, so he had a talk with the local armor guy who had scammed him, and now... he has come back with a full +500 armor set, making him even harder to kill!

  • 05.11.2006 10:30 PM PDT
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first the guy from the maw, wrong

ok, firstly, there were 3 spartans that didnt make the briefing about there lastest mission to capture a phophet, but didnt say they were on there way

the first game says he is the last spartan, because in him mind, and everyone else, its true(the 3 who didnt make the briefing most of caught up, or die before they could)

maybe, once he gets back to earth, he meets up with fred(who got the gauntlets, thats how he cut his finger, which sets of a chain-reaction, leading them to the crystal), but fred dies, and as respect for fred, john would take him armor to make repairs to his own, or upgrades

  • 05.13.2006 6:16 AM PDT
Subject: The Cheif's Gauntlets...whats up with them?

The three large red x's in a room your about to enter mean run away, fast.

Bungie, IIRC, said the video is a hodge podge of scenes from about 1/3 of the way into the game. I forget where I read that, I think it's either from a article on IGN or Gamespot.

That's alot of time to upgrade parts of his armour.

  • 05.13.2006 7:32 AM PDT
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but where from.... the only other parts(knew to use) which would look different from what he gets in halo 2 are;
halo 1s armor
Test armor the surviving spartans from Reach receieved

other places would be;
SIII program armor
New armor set(but unlikely as halo 2(mark VI i think), was new)
forerunner ship, humans did evolve from forerunners, and maybe they had spartan armor, and MC found it, and stole it(genetic memory)

  • 05.13.2006 8:34 AM PDT

The three large red x's in a room your about to enter mean run away, fast.

When he got it was easy to answer. How is another, and unfortunatly, we have to choice but to wait.

[Edited on 5/13/2006]

  • 05.13.2006 9:02 AM PDT
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Posted by: Squee Squared
How is it a Mark VII? In the beginning of Halo 2, the Mk. VI armor was completely new, not a day old. I doubt they'd make an entire new class of the armor, considering that Halo 2 takes place in a matter of days, and that Earth is being brutally attacked. They'd have no time, or reason, to develop new armor.


I got you covered:)

If you read the fanfic by sir brilliant, you would know that in his fictionary(!!) story, some spartans(I think it is) find a secret ONI weapons lab. Inhere there are all kinds of cool weaponry not seen before.

What if that was actually the case? Bungie said that the scene takes place almost halfway through the game or something like that... What if ONI actually decides to try and save earth for once, and when they locate MC they gear him up? That would actually also explain the new gun (which isn't the AR by the way)... I dunno, but i think it would make perfect sense...

(Sry if someone already said something like this but i'm in a hurry and didn't read the entire thread)

-Kegle

  • 05.13.2006 10:39 AM PDT
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im curious will you get to see the other spartans in the game.. i mean they were in the book and it would b awesome to see them in the game...?

  • 05.13.2006 10:45 AM PDT
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1. The Spartan in the trailer is the cheif.


Q
Is the Spartan in the teaser trailer, John 117?

A
Yes.


2. The weapon he's holding isn't necessarily the Assault Rifle, chances are it's a variation. The assualt rifle used in Halo CE was the MA5B, it could be something similar. Also, the MA5B was not outdated, it's actually the special ops. weapon (don't quote me there), so chances are it just wasn't on board In Amber Clad.


Q
Why is the Assault Rifle in there?

A
Who says it's the standard Assault Rifle? Doesn't look identical to me…


3. The gloves are new, and we don't know if the full suit is different. I doubt the full suit is different as the cheif most likely didn't have time to upgrade it, and even if he did the remaining human forces most likely did not have the technology to do so. What the gloves are beats me, I think it may be a Mk. V set of gloves, seeing as maybe his Mk. VI could have been heavily damaged. The only thing we know for sure is that they are new, as stated in the FAQ.

  • 05.13.2006 11:12 AM PDT
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What about the possiblity that the Chief lost his hand(s) in a battle? That would be very Skywalker-ish.

I don't have any real concrete evidence to support my guess, but in the Marathon: Infinity final screen, there is a shot of a severed cybernetic hand, and in Myth a character named The Watcher lost his hand as well. Bungie likes to have common threads in their games, so maybe they'll continue this dismemberment trend as well.

  • 05.13.2006 1:38 PM PDT
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getting a new cybernetic hand would take some good doctors, time, and a advanced medical center, which isnt under attack, hard to find on earth right now, not impossible

i like my idea of fred dying(or another spartan with a different glove)

maybe(low chance idea), only 1 person can enter the "ark" at a time, truth is already inside about to destory the world, and only 1 person can go in, john being the leader would go, and his team would give him the best of there armor to help him, even at the risk of there own health/life, someone said he had a different helmet(didnt follow the thread, no idea what happened or if they were wrong), but the spartans would trade. kinda a stupid guess, but hey, anything can happen, i mean, elites and humans working side by side, not killing each other....

  • 05.13.2006 3:45 PM PDT

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Posted by: x Lord Revan x
Posted by: Squee Squared

Well, if you remember, the first thing Master Gunns said in the Armory was: "This armor's a Mark VII- just got it in from Songnam this morning." So I'm lead to believe that it was finished, and immediately shipped.


True, but my thought is that it is old technology. The other spartans got their new suits on Reach after its attack. Therefore, since Reach was assualted, the technology would have been destroyed. Soooo, when Cheif gets his on Earth, it would be technically new. My thought is that perhaps Hasley took some technology with her, and returns with Kelly and delievers it to the Cheif. Who knows though...too early to speculate.


Dude, get it into your head. Its NOT a Mark VII. Bungie just redesigned it for the hell of it.
And dont ever say that the Spartan in the trailer is not the Chief again. Ever. Its loud and clear that it is. Frankie said so in the update. The question was: "Is the spartan in the trailer spartan john 117?"
Simply, the answer was a plain "yes".
End of conversation.

Also, the person who suggested that that his gloves might be Mark V gloves is wrong. Go play Halo CE. Notice how the glove protection is just a plain, flat plate of armour. It is in no way as detailed as the new glove.

[Edited on 5/13/2006]

  • 05.13.2006 3:54 PM PDT

OK, ive noticed a few people stray off on things. First of all i believe that it's master cheif in the trailer. Second, Bungie officials have confirmed in interviews that the trailer is 1/3 of the way through the game, and If getting off the forruner ship is one level that leaves maybe 3 more for him to get new gloves if H3 is about as long as H2. The gloves are different no doubt about it if you download the latest walpaper. I think that MC gets off the Forruner ship in chase of Truth, and probably land either on a MAC station or some other orbital station, so he can warn people and get some weapons. The AR is possibly just a selection that is made by whoever is playing the game before the trailer scene takes place, ever notice how you have same weapon in cut scenes that you had out before the scene? possibly meaning it was Bungie trying to spark all of this conversation about how it's not MC, and sitting in their plush office chairs laughing. I think the AR is back, and not really because of neccesity. If you think about it you are armed by two human sources in H2, Cairo station, and In Amber Clad. I know people will think New Mombassa was one, but all of that Ammo is from Marines that landed from In Amber Clad. So i think that Cairo station and In Amber Clad had BR's because of some specific purpose. Plus they were prototypes in First Strike meaning that they probably aren't in wide use yet.

  • 05.13.2006 7:11 PM PDT
Subject: The Cheif's Gauntlets...whats up with them?

It's not another Spartan:

"Q

I noticed the Master Chief's armor was scraped and damaged, what happened to him?

A

Lots of things."

- If lots of things happened to him, then an upgrade or change of gloves isn't to far fetched..

"Q

I also noticed Master Chief's gloves had changed. Does that mean it's Mjolnir Mark VII?

A

We haven't revealed that yet . Don't jump to any conclusions."

- Bungie not admitting/Bungie not wanting to reveal ANYTHING :)

"Q

Which characters will be returning in Halo 3?

A

Well as you can see from the trailer, at a minimum, we'll see the Chief and Cortana in some shape or form. And I believe Banshee pilots... "

- It's the Chief..





  • 05.14.2006 6:12 AM PDT
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Didn't they say somewhere that the cutscene from the trailer is not only IN THE GAME (unlike previous E3 trailers) but that it is also somewhere around the middle of it?

If so then that means cheif had alot of levels before this ark event. Hell he probably seen some of the war on earth and the defence falling. Who knows maybe truth is dead now, maybe cheif kicked his ass right after the end of halo 2.

  • 05.14.2006 6:33 AM PDT