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Subject: The Cheif's Gauntlets...whats up with them?
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wow ya this is a strong alternative.. but there are many arguments to your theory
for instance we could wonder how he got of the forerunner ship, and his armor has all of these scratches and dents and yea it would be very confusing and disapointing for many if you learn the chief is replaced by this other guy wich would need a whole lot of the game to get us up to his part in this plot

  • 05.14.2006 5:38 PM PDT
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my theory is that the masterchief was quickly upgraded...either that or he dumped his gloves in bleach

  • 05.14.2006 5:59 PM PDT
Subject: The Cheif's Gauntlets...what if it isnt the cheif?
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Posted by: CabooseX07
i think its the chief but what if its another spartan....kelly maybe? because Dr. Halsey had taken kelly while she was unconcious.so what if she had gotten back to earth....i dont know its just a possability.
it says in the bungie weekly that he is indeed Spartan 117

  • 05.14.2006 6:10 PM PDT
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he mostly got it from another spartan, his glove was destoryed somehow(lets dicuss that), and had it replaced by another spartan(fred) or a different version of the Mark VI armor he how(maybe test version, or revised or remade), either way its different, and i doubt bungie just remade it to look different(kinda stupid thing to do)

  • 05.15.2006 3:41 PM PDT
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Not to throw salt or anything, but if you look at this entire "other spartan" topic rationally, it all comes together. Now first of all, have you noticed that Eric Nylund, the author of The Fall of Reach and First Strike wrote those two books before Halo 2?
Eric Nylund also doesn't work with Bungie. Rather, he's with Microsoft. He's written books for all sorts of games including Brute Force.
Now, supposedly Nylund is working with Bungie and he's involved with the entire Halo series, wouldn't it make sense that the other Spartans would at least come out in Halo 2? It's completely bogus that the other Spartans (especially Linda) don't pop out in the game.
I think that the Spartan in the trailer is the Chief. First of all, in the FAQ's, Bungie informs us on the Spartan in the trailer. Second, does Halo 2 start RIGHT after Halo ends? I don't think so. Rather, days and weeks pass. But since Eric Nylund's novel was written b/t the two games, I don't have much to say. But it'd only make sense that Halo 3 starts at least a few days after Halo 2. That's enough time for the MC to meet up with the UNSC and get better weaponry and better armor (Gauntlets)

  • 05.17.2006 5:53 AM PDT
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I thought bungie said in an interview it is master chief in the trailer? pretty sure they did!
Also it could be due to the damage the chief has taken or just that bungie has gone for a little different design...there was definately a difference from halo and halo 2 in the chiefs armour, if you look at pictures on the box or in mutiplayer there is a lot more detail in halo 2.

  • 05.17.2006 6:02 AM PDT
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First off, as the FAQ stated the SPARTAN in the teaser trailer is Master Chief. There are several different possibilities of how John has upgraded armor but I am tired and I am only going to cover one, the most common would be that when he arrived at Earth even though it was pretty much taken over there may have still been a last stronghold and he upgraded his armor there.

  • 05.17.2006 6:09 AM PDT
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The difference between the armor from Halo to Halo 2 was due to Master Cheif getting new/improved armor. If you go back and play the campaign on Halo 2 and start at the begining I believe it even says something about this.

Also the difference in the gloves is more than likely due to the cheif taken damage. I remember a part in First Strike where some of the Spartans recieved equipment upgrades, but only certain pieces of the suit. The gloves could just be a different pair, who knows. Or it could be just a design change... We will have to wait and see. Until then lets atleast get the facts straight on the difference between his armor from Halo and Halo 2.

  • 05.17.2006 6:53 AM PDT
Subject: The Cheif's Gauntlets...whats up with them?
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To wear gauntlets the whole time would be cool, especially when out of ammo. You could pummel grunts, jackals, and even go toe to toe with brutes. I like the savagery of hand to hand combat on the battlefield. There is no ten count or tap out, you just mash 'em up till they don't move any more.

  • 05.17.2006 7:11 AM PDT
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didnt everyone decide that is was the MC before the last 2 or 3 posts said and argued that it was(we know, thats not the point), no where in halo 2 does it say(as far as i can see), that he is the last spartan, nor does it say he isnt, this leaves it open to bungie who could add new spartans, or not, its up to them

i think he gets into a hand to hand fight with a brute, in First Strike, he only just defeats a brute in hand to hand using all his strenght, his shields, and a grenade, so maybe a brute rips it off, or damages it in a fight

  • 05.18.2006 3:58 AM PDT
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the cheif may look like he has different armor but its actually covered in sand

  • 05.18.2006 2:30 PM PDT
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if u read Mr. Clarks fan fic u would know about Cyriacus and his armor.....

  • 05.18.2006 2:44 PM PDT
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Posted by: eliteslayer66
if u read Mr. Clarks fan fic u would know about Cyriacus and his armor.....

Posted by: Mr.Clark
The armor on his arms shifted, and panels along the length of his forearms opened up, allowing the large pointed blades to be freed on each arm. The blades were attached to his armor, and as such he would be forced into a lightning-quick battle style. He would need to last for several minutes before the energy he absorbed could be processed and filtered, which meant he’d be given a chance to murder his enemies with his own hands.




[Edited on 5/18/2006]

  • 05.18.2006 2:47 PM PDT
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I was looking at that wallpaper of Master Chief and I noticed that his gloves were not the only piece of armor that was changed. His boots also changed, but only slightly. They now only have four dots, instead of five like in Halo 2. It's not much of a difference, and probably not all that significant, but I thought I should point it out anyways.

  • 05.28.2006 9:11 PM PDT
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why are you bumping this?

  • 05.28.2006 9:26 PM PDT
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in one of the weekly updates they said that it was the master chief in the trailer

  • 05.28.2006 10:10 PM PDT
Subject: The Cheif's Gauntlets...what if it isnt the cheif?
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"Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't"
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You know all Spartans have the rank of Master Chief, which is the highest non officer rank in the navy. I really really REALLY think it is John and not another spartan. But if they say its the chief that could be anyone, and Fred did get new gloves in The First Strike....

  • 05.28.2006 10:17 PM PDT
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i cant believe this, stop debating about if its another spartan, its master chief, bungie has already stated that, stop trying to slap bungie in the face and say that its not the chief.

second his gloves are different, its not just a graphical upgrade from xbox to xbox 360, bungie has also said this, they will explain it in the future. the most reasonable thing is the chief just got new gloves or he got a new suit and has been in combat for a LONG time to get his suit looking worse then it did in either halo or halo 2.

  • 05.28.2006 10:22 PM PDT

Posted by: Infestation
i cant believe this, stop debating about if its another spartan, its master chief, bungie has already stated that, stop trying to slap bungie in the face and say that its not the chief.

second his gloves are different, its not just a graphical upgrade from xbox to xbox 360, bungie has also said this, they will explain it in the future. the most reasonable thing is the chief just got new gloves or he got a new suit and has been in combat for a LONG time to get his suit looking worse then it did in either halo or halo 2.


Yeah, Master Chief was fighting a huge Covenant force to save Earth, that would put loads of scratches and dents in his armor.

P.S. Infestation made the 117'th post on this thread.

  • 05.28.2006 10:34 PM PDT
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Posted by: Apple Cookie
You know all Spartans have the rank of Master Chief, which is the highest non officer rank in the navy. I really really REALLY think it is John and not another spartan. But if they say its the chief that could be anyone, and Fred did get new gloves in The First Strike....


For the record, this is incorrect. Chief Mendez gave Master Chief (Spartan 117 - John) the rank of Master Chief only. The rest are chief petty officer.

  • 05.28.2006 10:48 PM PDT
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MC (or "the spartan") has new boots. Find a pic of him in halo 2 and count the circles. There is 5 circle shapes on it on that bit at the top. But on the trailer there is only 4............ Also in the wallpaper called brigade damaged is that the chief or another spartan because the armour is extremely scratched and has lots and lots of bullet dents in it.

  • 05.29.2006 1:56 AM PDT
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The lower leg, foot, and calf parts are different, too. Also, there's that black attachment on the Chief's helmet that wasn't there in Halo 2. I doubt Bungie would do a redesign and add several new things, and not say were they came from. My guess is that they are just new pieces added to the Mark VI, not a whole new suit.

  • 05.29.2006 2:11 AM PDT
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How will the Chief even get the upgrades, pray tell, if there are any? I mean, he just got off the Forerunner ship, so I doubt he'd be able to find any human installations with the tools necessary to upgrade him. The place is destroyed. No upgrades.

FedEx

And if he cant get new armour, how can he have an AR?
The only reason can be, a late birthday present from his mother.

  • 05.29.2006 2:24 AM PDT