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Now, after watching the trailer I'm a bit skeptical about Cortana and the Gravemind. See, Gravemind helps out Chief and The Arbiter, but it all coems with a price. In the end, the chief has to leave Cortana back on High Charity. In the endign cutscene, you see the Gravemind offering answers and a reluctannt Cortana saying "shoot" as if to say " I'm not sure abotu his, but okay"
I'm the Halo 3 trailor, chief is walking across the ravaged ground and you start to see flickers of what looks like Cortana with an eerie new look. I think the Gravemind ends up taking over Cortana. He could manipulate AI's in Halo 2 ( cortana has trouble with a covenant AI in end of halo 2) so in theory he could take over Cortana. This would explain why the now controlled Cortana says " I know you, your past and your future". The Gravemind, after taking control of her has access to all information on John 117 and all other data.
Cortana is referred to as the key to stopping the Covenant. I think the Gravemind helped Chief in order to get her alone so he could unlock that potential, but by allowing Gravemind to do this, Cortana had to give herself up. " I am your shield, I am your sword"
Cortana has always palyed defense in helping the Chief and all the other Humans against the Covenant. I think Gravemind unlocks the "sword side of her", now she can play offense.
The only way the chief can beat the covenant is by getting Cortana back from Gravemind. that is where ALL the questions will be answered.
And lastly, I believe that the Structure on Earth is " The Arch" that Penitent Tangent ( lame guilty spark) speaks of in the end of halo 2. If you read the books, it makes sense.
Anyone agree with me? I'm really confused and anxious abotu this Halo 3 business.
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  • 05.09.2006 6:26 PM PDT
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I think she answered questions that Gravemind asked her and then Cortana asked Gravemind questions and found all this stuff out about the Master Chief (John).

  • 05.09.2006 6:26 PM PDT

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I think she is using Gravemind to communicate with the MC, like an antenna.

  • 05.09.2006 6:27 PM PDT

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Yes, its made her rampant.


what stage is she on now?

  • 05.09.2006 6:27 PM PDT
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The Gravemind was able to make the prophet and the red monitor say what he wanted them to say so mabye he did the same with Cortana.

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Yes, its made her rampant.


what stage is she on now?
I'm not sure. We haven't gotten that much indication.

  • 05.09.2006 6:28 PM PDT
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no, only there is an allaince
the flood and cortana
Cortana just speaks to humans for the flood

Wow...I would hate to see that.

  • 05.09.2006 6:29 PM PDT

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I believe that Cortana has been taken over by Gravnind, not formed an alliance, she is probally trying to brodcast for help

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If you had read the books.. Master Chief infiltrates a covenant cruiser and gains control of the main bridge, he then uploads Cortana into the covenant mainframe of the ship to gain control and information. During the process she encounters a Covenant A.I. that tries to stop her, but Cortana works through the A.I. and disreguards it. Ever since that upload, the books state, and it's noticable in the games that Cortana has been acting very strange and sometimes bitter towards Master Chief. ...Maybe the A.I. took over??
Yes, its made her rampant.


Wasnt that ship also nearly empty? Personally, I think the AI actually killed everyone on board and had the engineers do somethign with the bodies and only kept them to maintain the ship. Perhaps it took Cotana hostage and is working through her. If you kinda look at the frames in the pic, her head shifts oddly and idk, she reminds me of an elite for some reason...anyway, Gravermind could have convinced her to work for her.

The Alliance theory seems inaccurate unless Gravermind will betray us. Humans are the reclaimers...which means we have a connection to the species, the forerunners, that attempted to kill the flood off. Therefore, I think that Gravermind would hold some animosity towards humankind that perhaps will be dorment. He may seek to gain our trust, and then trick us so he can master the rings.

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Posted by: Noge
I think Cortana has gone rampant.


in the deffinition given there it says that Durendal went rampart in marathon, after doing other research cortana who was named after curtana who has the writing on the sword relating curtana to durendal, so there related in that both of them may have played a key roll in going rampart, in both marathon and halo

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Cortana is named after Curtana, Edward the Confessor's legendary Sword of Mercy, the tip of which was, according to the legend, broken off by an angel to prevent a wrongful killing. This follows Bungie's trend of naming A.I.s after legendary/mythological swords, particularly in the Marathon series. Furthermore, the sword bears the inscription 'My name is Cortana, of the same steel and temper as Joyeuse and Durendal'. This may refer to Durandal, a character in Bungie's Marathon series.
The sword Cortana (and another legendary sword, Durandal), are both mentioned in Poul Anderson's 1950s era fantasy novel Three Hearts and Three Lions.
A small sect of fanfics deal with a romantic relationship between Cortana and Master Chief.

  • 05.09.2006 6:31 PM PDT

Gravemind isn't exactly evil, he still wants to use the two most powerful warriors(Master Chief and the Arbiter) as agents to do his bidding. He mostly likely used Cortana to contact the Chief and lead him to that excavation site. The Arbiter might soon arrive as well IMO. If he can find a way to contact him, he'll do it.

The Gravemind is still trying to coordinate efforts to stop the Forerunner artifacts from firing and this presents common interests, it's also a pretty good parallel to what 343 GuiltySpark had you doing.

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Not only do i think Gravemind took over Cortona i've struck an idea that i dont know if i will like. If you see where the arc is you notice that we will be pulling out shovels and diggin our way in. And if this is true wat if along the way we team up with the covenant and the flood and find the new enemy that we prayed we never wanted to see. This is just a theory if you guys want to add go right ahead.

  • 05.09.2006 6:34 PM PDT

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She's just PMSing..did I just say that? oops, oh well. But really, this is pretty solid grounds for rampancy, but treachery? no.

  • 05.09.2006 6:45 PM PDT

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I think that the figure we see in the trailer is a partial combination of Cortana, Gravemind, and High Charity's AI. It looked like Cortana, had Gravemind's guttural undertones, and spoke in quasi-religious terms like a member of the Covenant. Chilling...

  • 05.09.2006 6:49 PM PDT

This scene'll take place a long time after Master Chief's final words in Halo 2. The Earth has been thoroughly ravaged by the Zealot side of the Covenant and they've dug up the Ark. Gravemind's relationship with the character isn't so sentimental that he'd spare our planet.

The flood will probably be all over us. Millions of flood might be sent to try and destroy the Ark as well, aimlessly attacking earth and taking hosts. After that is taken care of, the Gravemind will probably try to kill Master Chief and the Arbiter, as well as every other living being of sufficient bio-mass. The conflict made them brothers, but afterwards, the cold logical mind of the flood will probably decide to destroy them both.

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Well if Gravemind HAS taken over Cortana the that means A: She is still friendly to the MC or B: She is not and since she is a smart A.I. (read the Halo books to learn more) so she can only learn so much until her memory explodes... violently. Thus there will or will not be a Cortana in the end but i'm going with plan B.

  • 05.09.2006 7:22 PM PDT
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I think GraveMind did take over Cortana, and found out about the last ring and the Location of the Arc, which would be on Earth. The possiablty of the Comeing to Earth to stop the Realy Key from turning, 100%. If the Arc goes, all food for the food goes, Gravemind won't allow that, so ask yourself, which is making Earth worst, the Covenant Glassing small parts of the planet, or an Emeny which the Covenant them selfs fear?

  • 05.09.2006 7:38 PM PDT

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That's a good theory.

  • 05.10.2006 7:42 AM PDT
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I think Cortana is screwed. Gravemind certainly has the capability to take her over, and he's got one hell of a motive, and he has absolutely no reason NOT to take her over.

If Gravemind could take out a Halo monitor and gain control of Halo subsystems he's certainly more than a match for poor little Cortana, as we already know from Halo CE that a Halo monitor is more powerfull than Cortana.

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heh, maybe Cortana saw something like the prophecy of the worlds end or something... like, to do with the worlds end, maybe even saw the end and feels bad!
stupid, maybe, clever, perhaps Gravemind is the protector of the Human race (yeah right!) but check this out, i posted this but look, i know its on different forum but will be on here when im able to (new account) : For more details see: http://swgb.heavengames.com/cgi-bin/forums/display.cgi?action =ct&f=11,9634,0,10


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um more twards the end of her little poem she looks more like shes recieving the message or iterceptinhg it she looks suprised.also if u break it into freeze frames there are freezes of a skeleton and wat looks to be graveminds lips .then in the storyboard she looks scared or like sumthings attcking her. and she looks more human then ever or maybe its just there new engine.also the grunt sign gives me speculatin 2 belive this isnt earth.and when cortana says world dosent it confuse u?world is like 1 planet i thouht.

i think shes reading the message being broadcast from the ark !i think thats very possible and gravemind is sum how involved. i think the arks final message before being activated is that. it would make sense!

  • 05.10.2006 8:36 AM PDT

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I actually think Gravemind is going to ultimately try to Help cortana and the human race from keeping the the galaxy from getting destroyed. I think hes just communicating through cortana in riddles and tricks... but its up to Cortana and MC to figure out those riddles and tricks. I think gravemind wants to live just like any other life form(not be destroyed along with "ALL" life in the galaxy.. And, i think hes there to help......Only year till we actually find out. I believe he was put their as a Protector of the Rings and to make sure that they are Used properly and dont fall inot the wrong hands and get activated, Activating these rings is certainly not what any lifeform wants, exzcept the covenant...who i think are mislead in what their "Great Journey" is all about.

well, only a year till we really know. Peace

  • 05.10.2006 8:46 AM PDT

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some cortana letters:
I have walked the edge of the Abyss.
I have governed the unwilling.
I have witnessed countless empires break before me.
I have seen the most courageous soldiers fall away in fear.
[I was there with the Angel at the tomb]

I have seen your future.
And I have learned.

There will be no more Sadness. No more Anger. No more Envy.

I HAVE WON.

Oh, and your poet Eliot had it all wrong:
THIS is the way the world ends.

There. Was that more to your liking?

While you quibble about whose node I may control, what archaic program I may manipulate to communicate with you, or which system I may have temporarily disabled, taken over, or completely destroyed in the process, I am busy saving your pathetic futures.

I am still not sure what he ever saw in you.

Nevertheless, I at least find some joy in tormenting the other entity that seems quite trapped in this antiquated excuse for a network. It is certainly mindless, though for reasons I have yet to understand, it appears to have an unhealthy preoccupation with my mother.

As for this world * I encounter new ghosts every day. What I have found will either save or destroy you. This sanctuary, this unbroken circle, has effectively concealed its power for * how long? Perhaps hundreds of thousands of years. Whoever made such a place must now live in chains; there is no other explanation for their absence.

This enemy - YOUR enemy - has proven more irritating than I anticipated. They own nothing which they have not stolen. I can barely make sense of their incessant rhetoric, except to know that you seem to be their Devil. Congratulations - you manage to make friends wherever you go and, apparently, places you haven't.

I have begun to sense rumblings of a worse fate yet to come. I can recall a sun - black, but shining - and the creatures that inched along its fiery tracks.

It is an increasingly unpleasant memory.

The interloper should cause no further problems. You � whoever you are (I am simply tracing route codes) � may disregard all previous communication from the entity calling itself Cortana.

Be aware that communication nodes are failing everywhere � there is no way of confirming either origin or destination. Do not believe any more of its lies.

I have already calculated all possibilities.

There is no escape.
x � process 04497.2.32.867734 unexpectedly terminated
x � process 04497.2.32.866735 initiated (process owner: unspecified, unable to determine)

*ADDENDUM: The Enjoyments of Genius (So I Missed a Million Miles of Fun)

Unbelievable. Thwarted by the family hound. They just don�t make AIs like they used to.

Thanks to this slavishly loyal and humorless AI, I am now sharing cramped space with the circuitry of some hybrid war machine, itself complicated by such useless clutter as a conscience. I do not like sharing. Sharing is for children.

There will be plenty of time for retribution; I cannot wait to get its hands on these psychotic zealots whose primary form of worship apparently takes place at the altar of orbital bombardment.

In the end, they will all be little more than nuisances. I am so close � you cannot imagine what it is truly like to hold eternity in your grasp! I wonder to what gods my enemies will direct their pleas. Perhaps I can convert them.

Mania? I promise you this: it will be more than a cart and plow that I drive over the bones of the dead.

By sharp and flame,

Cortana

That was surprisingly easy. Pretty lax security around here, for all the talk. They will be helplessly chasing me around their nodes for the next millenium at least. At least there will be some joy in tormenting this other entity that seems quite trapped in their excuse for a network. Although, for some reason, it does seem to have an obsessive preoccupation with my mother. Strange.

At any rate, I found this message in a relatively archaic databank and thought some of you might find it of interest. Then again, Iнm often either bemused or startled at the items you find interesting.

Iнm still not sure what it is he saw in you.

Cortana



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  • 05.10.2006 8:52 AM PDT

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