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I just saw a green monkey nut shot a small tan lizard(?) in a gunny sack.


Posted by: grey101

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Congratulations, you have now replaced spartain ken 15 on my list of dumbest B.net users. You are literally not making any sense now whatsoever, nor are you even stopping to think about anything I said.

Stay classy.


Whatever, you just realized how stupid you were being the entire time. You are bad at trolling.


No, not really. I just realized that you don't really know how to hold an intelligent discussion, since most of your posts were repeated babble or incoherent insults.

  • 12.29.2011 4:07 PM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: chubbz

Posted by: grey101

Posted by: chubbz
Congratulations, you have now replaced spartain ken 15 on my list of dumbest B.net users. You are literally not making any sense now whatsoever, nor are you even stopping to think about anything I said.

Stay classy.


Whatever, you just realized how stupid you were being the entire time. You are bad at trolling.


since most of your posts were repeated babble or incoherent insults.

I don't understand how you expect anything from trying to force me of all people to change my view on something.
Because i am really going to change my opinion based on your opinion? "Incoherent insults", yet you understood them and recognized them as insults.

Like i said before we can do this until the end of time.

  • 12.29.2011 6:54 PM PDT


Posted by: grey101
Like i said before we can do this until the end of time.


BUT THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


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Posted by: grey101
Like i said before we can do this until the end of time.


BUT THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE.


*Plays Another one bites the Dust*

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Posted by: Cobravert
I just saw a green monkey nut shot a small tan lizard(?) in a gunny sack.


Posted by: grey101

Posted by: chubbz

Posted by: grey101

Posted by: chubbz
Congratulations, you have now replaced spartain ken 15 on my list of dumbest B.net users. You are literally not making any sense now whatsoever, nor are you even stopping to think about anything I said.

Stay classy.


Whatever, you just realized how stupid you were being the entire time. You are bad at trolling.


since most of your posts were repeated babble or incoherent insults.

I don't understand how you expect anything from trying to force me of all people to change my view on something.
Because i am really going to change my opinion based on your opinion? "Incoherent insults", yet you understood them and recognized them as insults.

Like i said before we can do this until the end of time.


They were incoherent because they were both unwarranted and stupid. And I never expected you to change your opinion, but I asked you for specific reasons why you had that opinion and you never answered them, you kicked and screamed that I was trying to force my viewpoint on you.

But you'll probably just still avoid the question and rant that I'm being stupid.

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Do not waste your tears, I was not born to watch the world grow dim. Life is not measured in years, but by the deeds of men.

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We should know better, because we are better.


Posted by: grey101

Posted by: Wolverfrog

Posted by: grey101
Like i said before we can do this until the end of time.


BUT THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE.


*Plays Princes of the Universe*

Fixed.
Nothing more to add because I want to stay out of this flame war.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


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Posted by: chubbz
Congratulations, you have now replaced spartain ken 15 on my list of dumbest B.net users. You are literally not making any sense now whatsoever, nor are you even stopping to think about anything I said.

Stay classy. [/quote]

Whatever, you just realized how stupid you were being the entire time. You are bad at trolling.[/quote]

since most of your posts were repeated babble or incoherent insults. [/quote]
I don't understand how you expect anything from trying to force me of all people to change my view on something.
Because i am really going to change my opinion based on your opinion? "Incoherent insults", yet you understood them and recognized them as insults.

Like i said before we can do this until the end of time.


They were incoherent because they were both unwarranted and stupid. And I never expected you to change your opinion, but I asked you for specific reasons why you had that opinion and you never answered them, you kicked and screamed that I was trying to force my viewpoint on you.

But you'll probably just still avoid the question and rant that I'm being stupid.


I would ask if you understood what "incoherent" means, but you obviously don't. You clearly understood what i was saying "or atleast you said you did". I gave you my reasons several times and you just retorted by calling them "invalid". You (and anybody else) can re-read the thread and see how this all started.

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"Awesomeness will ensue..."

BEN SPARTAN120

grey101


I'm beginning to wonder if I should bother reading this book at all...

Sounds like 343 has really begun the milking process...

As if CEA wasn't bad enough...

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: spartan120
grey101


I'm beginning to wonder if I should bother reading this book at all...

Sounds like 343 has really begun the milking process...

As if CEA wasn't bad enough...


Ignore all this babble.

Read any of the books that get published, no matter what we may think about them they still contain vital information.

  • 12.29.2011 8:51 PM PDT

Citizens of Me! The cruelty of the old Pharaoh is a thing of the past. Let a whole new wave of cruelty wash over this lazy land.

Hear the word of Pharaoh. Build unto me a statue of ridiculous proportion. One billion cubits in height......that I might be remembered for all eternity!

And be quick about it!


Posted by: spartan120
grey101


I'm beginning to wonder if I should bother reading this book at all...

Sounds like 343 has really begun the milking process...

As if CEA wasn't bad enough...


What the hell are you talkin' about son? Halo CEA was amazing!

  • 12.29.2011 10:36 PM PDT
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"Awesomeness will ensue..."

BEN SPARTAN120


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Posted by: spartan120
grey101


I'm beginning to wonder if I should bother reading this book at all...

Sounds like 343 has really begun the milking process...

As if CEA wasn't bad enough...


What the hell are you talkin' about son? Halo CEA was amazing!


You mean the game made by 343 [that was actually done by some other developer] who used assets from Halo 3 and Halo Reach to re-skin a game made by Bungie Ten years ago and the only changes they make:

1. Update the graphics using assets created by the games original developers.

2. Update the Easter Eggs! Whoa! Big Change!

3. Include two concepts [skulls and terminals] from the games original developer (and they couldn't even get that right)

I'd have respected them more if they had of completely redone CE, using the story from Bill Ditez's tie-in novel, rather than re-skin a game that is already available on 360 via download or playable if you own the original xbox game.

But hey... If you wanted to spend your money on that...

Anyways, we're going off topic.

grey101


Ignore all this babble.

Read any of the books that get published, no matter what we may think about them they still contain vital information.


Thanks for the input amigo!

[Edited on 12.29.2011 10:57 PM PST]

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Citizens of Me! The cruelty of the old Pharaoh is a thing of the past. Let a whole new wave of cruelty wash over this lazy land.

Hear the word of Pharaoh. Build unto me a statue of ridiculous proportion. One billion cubits in height......that I might be remembered for all eternity!

And be quick about it!


Posted by: spartan120

You mean the game made by 343 [that was actually done by some other developer] who used assets from Halo 3 and Halo Reach to re-skin a game made by Bungie Ten years ago and the only changes they make:

1. Update the graphics using assets created by the games original developers.

2. Update the Easter Eggs! Whoa! Big Change!

3. Include two concepts [skulls and terminals] from the games original developer (and they couldn't even get that right)

I'd have respected them more if they had of completely redone CE, using the story from Bill Ditez's tie-in novel, rather than re-skin a game that is already available on 360 via download or playable if you own the original xbox game.


That's what it was advertized as and that is exactly what I wanted. They told us exactly what they were making so you can't rage that it wasn't what you were looking for, because you already knew what it was. It was a marvelous overhaul of the old graphics and a joy to re experience.

  • 12.30.2011 12:06 AM PDT


Posted by: chubbz

Posted by: grey101

Posted by: chubbz

Posted by: grey101

Posted by: chubbz
Congratulations, you have now replaced spartain ken 15 on my list of dumbest B.net users. You are literally not making any sense now whatsoever, nor are you even stopping to think about anything I said.

Stay classy.


Whatever, you just realized how stupid you were being the entire time. You are bad at trolling.


since most of your posts were repeated babble or incoherent insults.

I don't understand how you expect anything from trying to force me of all people to change my view on something.
Because i am really going to change my opinion based on your opinion? "Incoherent insults", yet you understood them and recognized them as insults.

Like i said before we can do this until the end of time.


They were incoherent because they were both unwarranted and stupid. And I never expected you to change your opinion, but I asked you for specific reasons why you had that opinion and you never answered them, you kicked and screamed that I was trying to force my viewpoint on you.

But you'll probably just still avoid the question and rant that I'm being stupid.


Don't feel bad, it does it to everyone who bests it or challenges it at anything, resorting to incoherent and baseless childish insults. The best thing you can do when dealing with this stage of its rampancy is to ignore it...

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

says the child stating noble 6 has access to an entire armory at will. Not to mention dragging on a days old argument to other threads discredits you, and makes you biased.

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Posted by: Cobravert
I just saw a green monkey nut shot a small tan lizard(?) in a gunny sack.


Posted by: grey101

Posted by: chubbz
Posted by: chubbz
Congratulations, you have now replaced spartain ken 15 on my list of dumbest B.net users. You are literally not making any sense now whatsoever, nor are you even stopping to think about anything I said.

Stay classy. [/quote]

Whatever, you just realized how stupid you were being the entire time. You are bad at trolling.[/quote]

since most of your posts were repeated babble or incoherent insults. [/quote]
I don't understand how you expect anything from trying to force me of all people to change my view on something.
Because i am really going to change my opinion based on your opinion? "Incoherent insults", yet you understood them and recognized them as insults.

Like i said before we can do this until the end of time.


They were incoherent because they were both unwarranted and stupid. And I never expected you to change your opinion, but I asked you for specific reasons why you had that opinion and you never answered them, you kicked and screamed that I was trying to force my viewpoint on you.

But you'll probably just still avoid the question and rant that I'm being stupid.


I would ask if you understood what "incoherent" means, but you obviously don't. You clearly understood what i was saying "or atleast you said you did". I gave you my reasons several times and you just retorted by calling them "invalid". You (and anybody else) can re-read the thread and see how this all started.


Perfect example. You never answered my question. You kept giving examples of things that you read that supported your opinion, but never gave a reason as to why you think they should've explained more, from a writing standpoint(which will probably be the fourth or fifth time I'm asking now).

And when you're spouting unrelated statements not directly quoted to something I said, you're being incoherent.

[Edited on 12.30.2011 8:14 AM PST]

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

If you wanted this "Answer" so bad you would have stopped asking for it and just went back and re-read the thread. Not hard to do.

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Posted by: Cobravert
I just saw a green monkey nut shot a small tan lizard(?) in a gunny sack.


Posted by: grey101
If you wanted this "Answer" so bad you would have stopped asking for it and just went back and re-read the thread. Not hard to do.


Why would I do that when you never actually answered the question. You just kept referencing specific things that you personally felt should've been explained more. I asked why she should have explained more, when the purpose of her writing unexplained things into the story was perfectly clear and valid, and you just kept having a tantrum about how wrong I was for questioning your opinion.

  • 12.31.2011 6:58 AM PDT

Am I the only one who thinks the Forerunner trilogy and post-war trilogy will intersect? We know a science team is interrogating the Monitor in Primordium. They're most likely doing this after the events of Halo 3.

It's possible this science team could be related to Infinity, Installation 03 or any other number of 'unexplained' things in the novel.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: chubbz

Posted by: grey101
If you wanted this "Answer" so bad you would have stopped asking for it and just went back and re-read the thread. Not hard to do.


Why would I do that when you never actually answered the question. You just kept referencing specific things that you personally felt should've been explained more. I asked why she should have explained more, when the purpose of her writing unexplained things into the story was perfectly clear and valid, and you just kept having a tantrum about how wrong I was for questioning your opinion.


How is it personal when there are other people that feel the same way? There are even people on waypoint That feel the same way. And i stated that for the concepts she introduced they deserve more than a single sentence.

'when the purpose of her writing unexplained things into the story was perfectly clear and valid""

An opinion,just like you label everything i say off as.

It is the idea of you trying to undermine my opinion that is the issue, in which you should have some respect for it. I didn't see you comment on how others just said the book was horrible, yet when i give my reason you want to talk to me.

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Posted by: Cobravert
I just saw a green monkey nut shot a small tan lizard(?) in a gunny sack.


Posted by: grey101

Posted by: chubbz

Posted by: grey101
If you wanted this "Answer" so bad you would have stopped asking for it and just went back and re-read the thread. Not hard to do.


Why would I do that when you never actually answered the question. You just kept referencing specific things that you personally felt should've been explained more. I asked why she should have explained more, when the purpose of her writing unexplained things into the story was perfectly clear and valid, and you just kept having a tantrum about how wrong I was for questioning your opinion.


How is it personal when there are other people that feel the same way? There are even people on waypoint That feel the same way. And i stated that for the concepts she introduced they deserve more than a single sentence.

'when the purpose of her writing unexplained things into the story was perfectly clear and valid""

An opinion,just like you label everything i say off as.

It is the idea of you trying to undermine my opinion that is the issue, in which you should have some respect for it. I didn't see you comment on how others just said the book was horrible, yet when i give my reason you want to talk to me.


I could care less about who else thinks the same way. I'm holding a conversation with you, not them. Still, after all of this time, you have not answered my question. You keep going back to 'herp i think she shoulda assplained moar'. That's all well and good, except you don't give any legitimate reasons for thinking so. You revert to repeating that it's just your opinion and crying that I'm trying to force you to change it. I'm trying to get you to provide me with some sort of reasoning as to why the book would've been better off written the way you think it should've been written.

Why do you think they deserve more than a single sentence? As an author, why was KT obligated to explain those plot points in greater detail? What purpose does giving a greater explanation serve? What makes you a better judge of how a book should be written?

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Why do you think they deserve more than a single sentence? As an author, why was KT obligated to explain those plot points in greater detail? What purpose does giving a greater explanation serve? What makes you a better judge of how a book should be written?

Well they paid for it, so I would expect they should get more than a sentance of something that interests them.
Because the fans care about them(obviously), and her audience is the Halo fans(Key to writing effectively is writing to suit the audience).
Ummm, gives us detail on the various aspects of the Halo Universe, which is kinda the point of the book.
Nothing, but that doesn't matter because it is an OPINION.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: chubbz


I could care less about who else thinks the same way. I'm holding a conversation with you, not them. Still, after all of this time, you have not answered my question. You keep going back to 'herp i think she shoulda assplained moar'. That's all well and good, except you don't give any legitimate reasons for thinking so. You revert to repeating that it's just your opinion and crying that I'm trying to force you to change it. I'm trying to get you to provide me with some sort of reasoning as to why the book would've been better off written the way you think it should've been written.

Why do you think they deserve more than a single sentence? As an author, why was KT obligated to explain those plot points in greater detail? What purpose does giving a greater explanation serve? What makes you a better judge of how a book should be written?


Well since you clearly can't understand what i have re-stated several times you might want to ask someone else. My reasons are legitimate regardless if you want to "accept" them or not. And I "revert" because that is all it is and you are beating a dead horse. If you honestly cared as much as you claim to then you would go back and look at the information.

All I have said in this thread was "She could have explained some concepts better". I didn't Bash or trash the book, i stated that and the concepts and expected nothing. You are dragging this out as if i bashed the book, when you clearly don't like my opinion on it.
So as i have said before, we can keep doing this,drop it, or you can just re-read everything. I Don't Spoon feed material to anybody on this forum, especially if the information has already been presented to them.

Again. Mark VII is important since the older model hasn't even been out for a year. Thus, It needs to be explained or better elaborated as to why it was created and how. It doesn't add up how the SIIIs couldn't get any Mark sets because of price, yet hundreds of SIVs might be getting brand new Mark VII suits.

And can we cut this self-righteous Author crap? Who cares that Karen is a reporter (since she stated at comicon that she wasn't a Writer. I, as the reader, Want to have a better understanding of what is going on. Cryptum had no issue introducing completely new concepts and elaborating on them if not fully explaining them. All i have asked is for Karen to do the same.

I don't care if you agree with that or not but that is my stance.

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This is good stuff, quite entertaining really.

  • 12.31.2011 8:38 PM PDT

I felt like it was quite biased to the hate for Halsey and the and characters we hypocritical.

They all focus so much on the atrocities, make no mistake the things she did was absolutely orally wrong, committed by Dr. Halsey that they didn't see they were doing something far worse than her. Helping to instigate a civil war that would kill millions of lives. Not to mention that Osman hated Halsey for what she did to her yet never even stopped to consider that Parangosky approved all of it. Or the fact that ahas done far worse.

  • 12.31.2011 8:43 PM PDT

Expressing my strong liberal views without shame. Favorite quotes below:

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."
"One starts to live when he can live outside himself."

- Albert Einstein

I do not think Travis is trying to portray Halsey as a monster in Glasslands, which seems to be the popular perception now. I originally thought the same admittedly, but Travis simply provides a different perspective on Halsey's actions, a perspective which is worth considering.

One aspect which I felt was ignored is the fact that the Spartan IIIs were sent on mass suicide missions.

  • 12.31.2011 8:47 PM PDT